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5 years..... no ring

143 replies

LadyBrooks · 14/09/2014 18:57

Been with dp for 10 years... 5 years ago he presented me with a charm bracelet with a ring on telling me that him proposing was just around the corner. It never materialised... I got pregnant and had our daughter... still no ring..... months go by... no ring. Got pregnant again... awful pregnancy and was told that he would be proposing literally day after I gave birth.. never happened. My son is now 14 months of age. Three months ago he told me I only had two months to wait... never happened. He says he wants to marry but has to be done the right way.
Tonight I have got so upset about it I have actually told him he has ruined the whole thing so much i dont even want to do it. I feel like I am grieving my dream.... what can i do?

OP posts:
irulethisworld · 19/09/2014 11:56

"i was in your shoes 7 years ago"

Given OP's most recent update, that makes me feel a little sick Shock

LadyBrooks · 19/09/2014 11:58

Im packing our bags now

OP posts:
myroomisatip · 19/09/2014 12:00

What you do now is get legal advice, as much as you can, have a chat with the CAB and find out if you can claim any benefits.

Get copies of any relevant paperwork regarding his income and savings.

It is much easier to make plans when you have information.

Keep on saving as much as you can.

And cover your tracks! Don't let him know what you are doing.

Good luck and keep posting Flowers

BoldFossil · 19/09/2014 12:14

i rule this world ha ha! no my x hadn't a thing for photographing strangers' shoes but i did see porn on the computer and when i challenged him about it he literally roared at me and i back away in fear. I understood that I was not allowed to challenge him about anything, ever.

Ladybrooks, well done. Whatever you're going to, it's the first step towards rebuilding a new independent life for yourself. You sound resourceful. Deep down you always knew you were worth more than this right?

i had a five year financial recover plan. I achieved my goals. It didn't take anywhere NEAR five years to be happy though. I'm still doing things now that would be really hard if I had to answer to him, gain his approval or support [sigh]

good for you, packing!

ohfourfoxache · 19/09/2014 12:23

Bloody hell Sad

Make sure you keep all your documents (birth certificates, passports etc) safe as well. Yy to collecting paperwork re savings/income.

Itsfab · 19/09/2014 12:36

OP I am so sorry this has happened but the row this morning was the best thing to happen as you wouldn't have seen the phone and what disgusting things he is up too. Is he taking pictures up ladies skirts as well Hmm?

Whatever you do, don't be there when he gets home and I really hope you have enough self esteem to walk - fuck it, RUN - away from this man. I didn't put relationship as it isn't one.

kaykayblue · 19/09/2014 12:36

Oh god OP - I'm sorry, but this man sounds utterly hideous.

You say that you've been with this man for a long time, so some of his behaviour might seem normal to you when it really, really isn't. I don't want this to sound patronising, but just wanted to highlight why you really need to break from this "man" and stay separated. It would be easy for you to fall back into the trap of his empty promises and lies. Once he knows that you have left, he will be desperate to have his "dog" back.

Let's break it down:

He believes in this "alpha" crap

References to "alpha" is a reference to power. He is saying that he believes he should have all the power in your relationship. A healthy relationship is that of EQUALS. There is no space for a "top dog". It's also a term used by cretins who follow the "PUA code" or pick up artists code. It's a hideous, misogynistic movement that see's women as conquests and toys - not as people.

He isn't interested in your opinions and doesn't want you to assert yourself

You openly admit that he "shouts you down". This is incredibly unhealthy, and another very obvious sign that he doesn't see you as an equal. No-one, NO-ONE would treat someone they love and respect like this.

He has cheated on you twice, once when you were in a very vulnerable postion

Again, a total and utter lack of respect for both you AND YOUR CHILDREN. I'm sorry, but a "good father" does NOT behave like this. They are there to support the emotional and physical health of the mother. Presumably after the first affair you got the whole "I love you, please don't leave, it was a mistake" bullshit. Yet he did it again. When you needed him. He is utterly repulsive.

He see's women as objects

The stuff you found on his phone is at best FUCKING CREEPY, and at worst, potentially illegal. I'm pretty sure his employers would sack him for misconduct if they found evidence of him wanking into someone's shoes at work. And what about the poor owner of the shoes? Him seeing a woman in that light is abnormal. It's objectification at it's height.

He demands sex

So despite him treating you like shit, he still expects you to "service" him. Because to him, that's all you are there for. To look after his house and home, and provide one outlet (but not the only one...) for his sexual urges. He doesn't care about your feelings on it - very dismissive of your reasoning, because to him, your feelings and opinions don't mean jack shit.

He will never admit to being wrong - UNLESS it suits him

You've demonstrated that he will blame you for everything he can get away with. When you actually leave, he will probably turn into a grovelling piece of shit that will promise you the stars. Thing is, he has already proved that his promises and words are utterly hollow. You would be a fool to believe them now after so much evidence to prove that he is a liar.

I know this must seem like the world is ending, but it isn't. Contrary to how you might be feeling, you don't NEED this man. You honestly don't. If anything, you need to be away from him and to re-build your own life. There is light at the end of the tunnel, but you have to be prepared to actually walk through the darkness to get to it.

dreamingbohemian · 19/09/2014 12:43

Jesus Christ. I'm so sorry OP.

You need to be ruthless and selfish on behalf of yourself and your DC. Get to a solicitor before you do anything and find out what you are legally entitled to so you don't screw yourself over. Go on entitledto.co.uk and find out what benefits you can get.

Are you worried about your safety?

Gen35 · 19/09/2014 13:04

Well, you're doing the right thing. Whatever your current circumstances, you can't stay with this weirdo and you can build yourself up from here. Definitely start a new thread about this current situation if you haven't already.

Stupidhead · 19/09/2014 13:27

Oh god. Be strong for you and your girls x

TheFilthiestPersonAlive · 19/09/2014 13:28

Jesus, he is truly foul. So glad you're getting out of there.

No wise words but you'll find plenty here - maybe post in relationships later.

Good luck, OP. You're definitely doing the right thing.

BoldFossil · 19/09/2014 13:51

Agree with kaykay's post.

BoldFossil · 19/09/2014 13:59

one thing to expect, when you leave, he will suddenly and miraculously have an epiphany where he sees his own shortcomings and says what he knows you would like to hear. Please don't fall for it. It's hard not to when you're having to dig deep to pull the bravery out of thebag, but it is just blah blah blah to him. what does the missus want to hear?

i left my x, he promised to change, claimed he saw where he'd gone wrong, claimed he understood my pov, promised to allow me some freedoms etc...

but later, when i was back at heel, he referred to it sneeringly as my "tin pot parade". So that's how he really saw it. Himself the dictator.

BoldFossil · 19/09/2014 14:02

oh sorry kaykay, you said as much! it is true though. Please please OP, if you leave him once, that's a big thing and it's hard to leave once, don't put yourself through it twice which is what i did. If i'd had mumsnet then I would have known it was pointless to go back. I sort of knew it was pointless but he made me feel so guilty Confused about leaving . He was a blamer all right. Everything was my fault and he made me feel i owed it to him to go back to him.

kaykayblue · 19/09/2014 16:23

BoldFossil - no, I think it's important that other's cover the same points if they agree with them. I think it can be very hard to stay strong when someone is saying everything that they KNOW you want to hear.

Because then you really do have to remember what they are really like, and that none of it is real.

Itsfab · 20/09/2014 08:00

Even if he proposes with a massive rock do you really want to marry someone like him? I don't need to list his disgraceful behaviour it has already been done.

Losingmyreligion · 20/09/2014 08:41

Are you ok OP?

BoldFossil · 20/09/2014 09:03

hope you're ok.

Even if he's said what he believes you need to hear, HE is not a different man.

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