feelings on porn

[lollypop77]

Just wanted other peoples opinions on if they are ok with there partners/husbands watching porn regular ..do you get worried or wonder why they have the need to ??

Mugg1ns Shelley Lubbins is an ex porn star who has set up a charity to help porn stars exit the industry. She campaigns for porn stars right to be protected under the current rules of the law and still doesn't get very far.

Apparently no condoms is unlawful...........

Unfortunately it's a billion dollar industry.

HarmonicF I'm not tempted to watch it, but I am curious about how a "kite mark" for porn might be workable or not.

What did the police say?

The dis-ingenuity of this pisses me right off.

It is a total dealbreaker for me. Couldn't be with someone with so little imagination.

Muggins, you didn't sound "facetious" you sounded like someone who thinks it's ok to hurt women for your entertainment.

So far the basic argument against is "Well, you just don't know FOR SURE (that it isn't abusive or coercive) therefore no one should take a risk even if the odds are 1% vs 99%."

There's a lot of "I'm outraged" and "depressed" and quite a lot of "that's bullshit".. So yet again this is a MN debate that full of cogent and persuasive arguments that have shifted my view. I'm now convinced things will change and because so many here have so forcefully expressed their outrage, the use of porn will decline immediately.

I am reserving my own moral outrage for the lingerie section of the Littlewoods catalogue. Back in the 80s that's all my filthy pervert of a teenage brother could get his hands on. Looking back now, it's crystal clear to me that those models could have been coerced.....At least 1% of them. You could clearly make out nipples through some of those nylon bras. That's PORN!!!

YOU JUST DON'T KNOW FOR ABSOLUTE SURE.. Therefore ANYONE looking at a vintage underwear catalogue for the purposes of NAUGHTINESS is a BAD PERSON.

All is well in the world. So comforting to have moral and ethical absolutes.

Is that an argument placidjoy ?

Because if it is, it must be the world's thinnest..........

The argument has clearly been won by the "ALL porn might be abusive or coercive" side. Arguing from extremes is always a winning formula and will clearly change the attitudes of millions.

And another thing!!!! What about those video screens in Robert Dyas showing the adverts for the Pedicure machines.??? They are clearly tantamount to rape for all the foot fetishists out there!!

The argument has clearly been won by the "ALL porn might be abusive or coercive" side.

After all this, you still don't get that no-one is saying ALL porn is abusive?

Some of it is. It's just that when you watch it you won't know whether it's abuse or not.

Why is that so hard for some people to understand

If you still want to watch it, knowing that you could be getting off on watching women being abused, at least have the guts to admit that.

It's really mind boggling the extent to which some people will go to protect their right to watch porn.

Trying to equate what belle Knox is going through in that clip to a underwear model having a photograph taken is so ludicrous I won't even waste my time engaging.

I will say having looked into the issue of porn, it's a lot more of a multi faceted issue than just abuse of the female pornstars.

The statistics on divorce in America citing porn is a real eye opener.

For someone who is shouting a lot about rational arguments placid you sure don't seem to have any.

I don't think anyone saying watching consenting adults have sex is wrong per se, they are saying abuse is so endemic in the industry and they would rather not take the chance of watching abuse.

I think I watch more porn than my husband.

It is shocking how desperately some people want to defend their right to watch women being used, raped and abused for their amusement and entertainment. Actually it is terrifying.

Genuine questions for those that watch porn, think porn is OK;

Would you be in it?

Either as an actress or in a homemade movie with your spouse.

If your answer is no because you have wobbly bits, bum too big etc, for arguments sake let's just say you would look perfect because of camera, make up artist, airbrushing.

Would you be in it?

And if not, why not?

Vivacia I think I know what you mean about nervously googling the sites...I would hate to even randomly look at porn. I wouldn't be able to unsee it and the whole thing is just so awful and poisonous it would be like being infected.

Fair enough harmonic

Can I ask why you would want to?

Obviously it could be a really personal reason that you may not want to share, so I understand if you don't want to share.

I'm just interested to see the motivations, reasoning and perhaps even hypocrisy (although you said yes, so this won't apply to you) in people's answers.

I'm always interested to hear how many porn fans would be happy if their daughter was to go into the industry.

(or hypothetical daughter/niece/sister/wife/girlfriend...)

sassenfaff as someone who doesn't watch it, but who is looking the other way when my husband uses the far-as-we-can-tell-is-ethical stuff now and then (I'm ahem, out of order n the sex department atm) I'll answer the questions

Would you be in it? No. I don't feel at all comfortable with the idea and its not because I'm tubby and middle aged, I felt the same as a svelte 20yo.

Either as an actress or in a homemade movie with your spouse . Again, no.

And if not, why not? Simply not comfortable with it.

But if this is leading on to 'why then are you ok with other people doing it" the answer is this: 1) I can accept that some other people really are ok with doing it and 2) ..... the ethical question, ok, I take the point that can you really know if someone has been exploited but there is enough free stuff that really does seem voluntary that personally I think that you can find milder, problem free porn. I may be wrong about that, but it is the view I hold. As someone said upthread, there's a huge range of the stuff.