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Secrets we want to tell but can't

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LizzieBelle · 02/08/2014 18:35

There was a thread on here a few months ago which was full of confessions and secrets that we can't tell in real life...My secret is that I know the neighbour on one side of me is having a naughty affair with the neighbour on the other side of me. As soon and the husband goes to work and the kids go to school she's off with the single dad on the other side of me...

Has anyone else got a secret??

OP posts:
mightaswelljustsayit · 19/08/2014 16:39

I've name changed for this but I have some stuff I'd like to get off my chest.

Everybody thinks that I'm a positive, together person but I'm actually falling apart and don't know where to start picking the pieces up. The list of stuff that I haven't talked to anyone IRL about includes (but is not limited to):

  • The business I set up from overseas a few years ago as a way of doing some legitimate freelance work has been closed down because I didn't submit any accounts for over 3 years. As a result, the bank has frozen the money that was in the account and I can no longer access it. Over £7000 that I was planning to use to pay off a large part of my student loan.
  • I have 3 messages from the student loans company on my answerphone because I have had to cut off the direct debit due to lack of funds in my uk account. I need to send them the paperwork to reduce the repayments and transfer the DD to my overseas account but I just can't seem to remember to bring the papers in to work to copy them
  • Similarly, I have 4 medical bills that I need to send off to get a refund. They are on my desk, waiting to be filled out and sent. They have been there for 2 months.
  • My relationship with my husband is hanging by a thread. To the point where I was hesitant to book flights for a trip back to the UK next month because the seats are non refundable and I'm not entirely convinced that we will still be together by then
  • Despite the above, I stopped taking the pill in February and cry in the bathroom every month when my period comes. My husband thinks I'm still on the pill.
  • I'm having an emotional affair with someone I work with and dream about taking it further. Luckily (or not, depending on how you look at it) I am too fat and unattractive for him to be interested.
  • There is a swinging/sex club near a place that I go to every week to meet up with friends and every time I walk past I'm sorely tempted to go in because I fantasize about being ised by a group of strangers
  • I have what other people think is a good job and I am in this job because it is what I wanted to do but I hate it. I haven't actually done any productive work for over 6 weeks. I put in the strict minimum to make sure that my projects run smoothly but I know that I am capable of doing so much more - I just can't be arsed. Ironically, I am one of the stars of the department.
  • Last year I saw a psychiatrist once a week for 7 months but stopped when we got to the point where my marriage was being questionned. I wasn't ready to ask myself the necessary questions and now I'm afraid to go back because I think I know what the answers are and I don't think I could go through with them

I thought that writing this out would make me feel better but it is actually just making me feel even more overwhelmed by how useless and lost I am.

MezleyM · 19/08/2014 17:35

Not so much a secret, but an interesting titbit, in the vein of some earlier posts. To put this in context, I have always looked much younger than I actually am (brilliant now, but deeply annoying when a teenager!!). Anyway, whilst at Uni (aged about 19, looked about 14) I worked at Wembley Arena/Stadium. I've seen Cliff in concert over 30 times (shudder). But more interestingly, Gary Glitter used to do his gangshow 3 nights every Christmas...was actually really good fun. On the last night, one of his roadies came up to me and said that Gary had seen me earlier, and would I like to come to the after show party? I declined, but when the news broke about his preferences for young girls (bearing in mind I'd've looked about 14 at the time), I did wonder what would have happened if I'd gone!

CarbeDiem · 19/08/2014 18:24

AuntieVenom Congratulations and I hope everything goes well Thanks

Might I'm not going to go there with - could you do this/that/or the other as you've not asked for it but want to give you a ((hug)) and Thanks - hope things improve soon.

MezleyM - Lucky escape.

Itsfab · 19/08/2014 18:31

mightaswell - CakeWineFlowers

Put your paper work by the door ready to take to work tomorrow.

Call the loan company and explain you have the money but can't access it at the moment. Running away will make them mad. If you talk to them they might be sympathetic.

Get yourself back on the pill. You can't have a baby with someone you don't love. It isn't fair on anyone.

Set a reminder on your phone to send the medical bills tomorrow.

Book that appointment with the psychiatrist.

Good luck. You can do everything you need too to live a better, happier, healthier life.

Underbella · 19/08/2014 20:37

I think I just wanted an opportunity to write this down and see what it looks like.

I can't stand my colleague and feel terribly guilty about it. But they are irritating and I wish they would bugger off! How can you sit there and talk about yourself and experiences to the extent and detail that you do? Shut up and do some work!

It's TMI and no one cares.

And you are crap at your job.

There.

Said it.

Leave me alone!

Darkesteyes · 19/08/2014 21:15

Oh i know that only too well Chachah. My DM is Italian and i was brought up in that religion Abandoned it when i moved out of parents home at 19.

JellyBeansHaveNoAgeLimit · 20/08/2014 09:09

mightaswelljustsayit, reading you post made me feel very sad. You sound very overwhelmed. Maybe you can get some good advice in the relationships section? Thanks and unmumsnetty hugs for you.

Underbella, I think you work with my ex-colleague! Does his name begin with J?

LoafersOrLouboutins · 21/08/2014 13:58

Here is my secret (which nobody else knows): I've been shagging a younger man ever since I met him last December. He's 26, childless and a dentist. I'm 32 and a single parent to two DDs. We met last December as we both had work Christmas parties at the same place. I'd never met him before but invited him back to my house for a one night stand. We shagged 3 times in one night, I felt really terrible the next morning for inviting a stranger back to my DDs home but justified it by the fact my DDs were staying with my parents that night. We've been FWB ever since. He makes me feel fun and attractive again. He comes to my house every Saturday morning for sex when my DDs are at Farsi club, we meet in our lunch breaks for a quickie and we've even had sex in his car. My colleague had a baby 6months ago and has no idea who the father is. I really need to see a psychologist about how traumatised I am by my ExDH walking out on me and our DDs to live in Iran but I don't have the time. I'm either working, being a mother, visiting friends or with my FWB. I think my sister's wedding dress is horrific. I'm a bit too dependant on my vibrator. My dad had an affair 3 years ago and my mum still doesn't know, I don't have the heart to tell her. Feels good to confess to these things!

LoafersOrLouboutins · 21/08/2014 15:13

I've just realised most of my secrets are sex related BlushHmm

Mrsmost · 22/08/2014 01:24

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WillowWoods · 22/08/2014 10:44

Mezley,I saw GG on holiday with a boy and a girl (12?),together with another old man. GG was falling about,pissed,and the children just looked blank. I remarked to DH,at the time,that there was something odd about their subdued behaviour. This was before the revelations.
I wonder how many more there are.

Ringsender2 · 22/08/2014 16:40

Smile at a lot, but horrified by some of these. Did the newsreader retire due to age or other reasons?

ChangelingToday · 22/08/2014 18:40

I sometimes (especially right this moment) think I hate my mil. As in really really. She is a horrible spiteful old woman who takes pleasure in saying hurtful things. She made me cry today (not in front of her tg) and dh did little to defend me as always.

Muddlewitch · 22/08/2014 19:06

I secretly smoke, though not many.

I have feelings for someone I can't have (not married, work related.)

I love my kids but sometimes can't wait for them to grow up.

supersop60 · 22/08/2014 23:37

My friend recently dumped my cousin. While my aunt was bemoaning the fact that he doesn't seem to be able to keep a girlfriend, I had to bite my tongue - he doesn't kiss 'properly' (all quick pecks and definitely no tongues) and he likes to slap his girlfriends and call them bitches and whores during sex!

themostinterestinglife · 23/08/2014 00:10

I hate you so much I don't even use your name. It's your fault I lost five years of my life and I won't get them back again. You are self indulged, self absorbed, arrogant and repressive. I am suffocated around you and so look forward to building my own life after we get divorced. I've given so much to this marriage but you have cost me dearly. No forgiveness for that.

mybiggestsecret · 23/08/2014 22:00

when i was 19 i started seeing a 31 year old i worked with. He lived in my street and i shortly found out i was pregnant. he told me that having lost both his parents to cancer within a year of each other, all he wanted was a family and would be there fir me and the baby and we should move in with each other.

This is when it all went wrong. he became manipulative, controlling, and finally violent. i found out he was on dating sites, and seeing prostitutes. i was so pregnant i felt trapped and cared of being a single parent. i stayed.

He got gradualy worse and worse, always saying it was my fault. i believed him. i developed anxiety and he said that i couldnt leave him now as the boys would be taken. his aunt was a scial worker. he said he knew every trick in the book to take them from me. we had a second baby 2 years after the first.

a week before DS2's first birthday, he told me he was leaving me. he said it frequently and i always begged and said id change. not this time. he wasnt expecting this, and became more and more violent to the point i got the police involved. he was let off with a caution. he efused to mve out of the house for 8 months, and did things like bursting into my bedroom at night as i was on the phone, and smashingmy laptop as he thought that i was talking about him.

he moved out, and a year later i started to see someone. he got jealous, and di things like smashing my things and ripping my new wallpaper when he was at my home having contact with children.

at this time, i had to have a serious operation, and he looked after the boys while i stayed in hospital. he didnt bring them to visit me. instead he emailed me telling me things would be easier if i didnt survive the operation.

2 days later i got a kock at the door from social services. they wanted to do an ssessment of me. they wouldnt tell me why, and said id get a report 6 weeks later. I told him, and he made a list of people he suspected of reporting me, and said i should cut thrm off for being malicious.

The report arrived, saying the referral came from him. he had taken them all the way to their offices saying i was a terrible parent, and that they should take the chldren. they had found nothign of the sort when i informed him that i knew, he threatened to sue social services.

the same happened several times, until i got a report saying he uses them to cause trouble. they refused to take any more referrals off himand told him to direct them to the school who if they agreed ould pass them on. I was called to collect DS1 early several times as he was shuotign and swearing in reception.

I was doing well without him, my anxiety was fading, i had a job with the nhs, and as still seeing new dp.

his contact was always intermittent as since leaving, he lived in a shard house and was living a single man lifestyle. eventually he stopped seeing them altogether as DS1 got a SEN statement and he was ashamed of him. I took this opportunity to move house.

I moved us all into out new house with the help of dp. he left on the sunday night, we waved his car off. and the ex walked out from behind the next doors bushes. my sister had told him we were there.

He then started agan seeing the boys and letting them down. i invited him to birthday parties etc and he wouldnt turn up. until he sddenly started seeing them regulalrly, for 4 weekends. he then started with the social servces referal again. they came and asked the same questions again, and i told them that they werent supposed to be taking more referals from him, but was told different LA meant they did their own assessment, but everythign was fine.

Until he refused to give the boys back. i was told the police wouldnt get involved as he had PR. so i had to get a court prder. i was told it was a rubber stamp job. a technicality really.

The solicitor i went to see was the social workers relative, and couldnt act for me. so i had to speak to another. he told me the same that it was a formality and would be fine.
Except they applied for the wrong thing. and instead of giving ex 24 hours notice like the barrister later told me they should have done, they applied for a court order. as the children were "known to social services" the judge said they had to write a report. they were given 18 weeks to do it.

in this time the social worker told me everythgn was fone and if i just went along with the report, i would be fine. i was given weekend contact. (to this day i dont understand why i didnt just not give them back but i was scared of SS). on the forst weekend he was really off with me when i took them back. the next day he then refused to let me speak to them on the phone. i knew something wasnt right so called the SW. i was told the EX had made allegations that i had hurt the children. my contact was stopped.

the boys had to undergo a medical (nothignwas found) and a police video interiew, where the eldest said "this wasnt my idea i dont want to say anything". as such the police said there was no evidence of anything untoward, and dropped it.

SS said that they didnt work to those criteria, and istead o had to prove i didnt.

theyhanded the report to court late. and the social worker had left. they asked to do anither one. and were given more time.

i was given supervised contact at a childrens centre. by xmas, (they went to their dads in july) i said i had had enough, and that as they kept telling me it was a voluntary arrangement so they could write th report, i wanted to end it. i asked was there any grounds to stop me if i wanted to take them home from the contact sessions. I was told no.

So i went to do this as they said i could. The police were then called, and i was accused of abducting them. the police said they werent lawyers so couldnt unravel what was going on, but that as the boys norally lived with ex, they should go home with him and i could contact a solictor to sort it out properly. the next day he went to court and got an order saying that the boys were scared by me attempting to abduct them, and i shouldnt be allowed near them. the solicitor only called me 30 mis before court to tell me this was going on, and said that ex had said if i didnt contest it, then i would get contact, and the best thing to do was agree as it took it out of SW hands.

It did - and he then refused to give me contact. and SS wouldnt get involved as they decided they had no concerns. he refused to let me see them after the yougests birthday in 2012.

The court battle went on for so long, that it was said that even if he shuldnt have taken them, they were now with him for so long it wasnt in their best interests ti give them back. we were told to sort contact between ourselves.

instead he has moved, refuses to tell me where, and i only hear from him when its their birthdays, or xmas, when he offers ot let me speak to them on the phone, or asks me to email them. but the phone calls never cone, and the emails go unreplied to except for a tirade of abuse from him.

I have a 3rd DS now, and i am so scared he will get social servoces involved, that i am scared to fight him for contact.

when i was regnant with DS3, a midwife got suspicious, as my notes sakd i had 2 children who didnt live with me. she assumed they were removed by child protection, and referred me to safeguarding. we then had to go theough an assessment, and were told a posible putcome was him being taken at birth. we fund out that the previous LA SW aso told them that i had taken an OD while pregannt, but that the current LA socia worker didnt believe them and chased it up wit the hospital. because i was undergoing this assessment i was judged, and treated horribly by every midwife i saw. the whole experience was horrible and made me ill.

none of my current friends know about any of it. i am scared there will be a "no smoke without fire" attitude. obviously my current DP knows everyhting, but his parents dont. Im scared tot ell anyone in case they believe ive done smethign awful, and dont want to be friends with me anymore. i feel like he is still destroying my friendships now.

I dont even know what to tell DS3 wen he is older than his current 10 weeks.

I cry every day about my lost children, and the only photos i have of them, i ave screenshotted from their school websites.
I know one day there is going to be a knock at the door and everyones lives are going to be destroyed.

sprry for wall of text, and for typos.

number99bus · 23/08/2014 22:14

mybiggestsecret you poor thing. Have you not got any friends you can confide in?? If it is any consulation, I believe you, and I know that your DP does so Im sure someone else would. But you need proper support in coming to terms with not seeing your children. One day they will come looking for you, I believe that.
Stay strong

mybiggestsecret · 23/08/2014 22:28

number 99:
a couple of old friends know, but i dont really see or speak to them much. we were friends due to having kids the same age and now i just feel like i dont fit in.

i also get paranoid that something will get mentioned on facebook and my whole big lie will unravel. :(

Darkesteyes · 23/08/2014 22:31

mybiggestsecret that is awful He has used the system to abuse you and his children.

Kittydocni · 23/08/2014 23:29

Not exactly a big secret....but still.
Married for almost 10 years, totally faithful, never looked at anyone except my DH, with whom I have an awesome marriage and a great sex life.

And then an old friend got married and my old friend-with-benefits from school was best man, so I saw him for the first time in almost 15 years at the wedding.

He's married with two kids, but to say that there was still a spark of sexual chemistry between us would be underselling things. Within about 10 minutes we'd gone from "so what do you do?" to "remember that time in the backseat of (groom's) car?", but I walked away before anything happened physically, because...well, I made vows I intend to keep.

This is the guy I gave my first BJ too, had my first threesome with, gave me my first multiple orgasm (yes, I had interesting teenage years, no he was never my boyfriend).

While nothing would ever happen between us in real life, I now replay old memories over and over again, and I can't stop fantasising about him.

I'm a horrible, horrible person.

Darkesteyes · 24/08/2014 00:53

Its going to be seven years come January since i split with OM.

Its been that long since i was actually touched by another man.
(DH hasnt touched me since 1996) Ive lost weight recently and my confidence has increased and so has my sex drive.
But its not just the sex i miss Thats too simplistic. I miss having an emotional connection. I miss having someone brush my arm as they walk past me I miss someone stroking my hair or touching my face. Someone looking at me with both desire and love in their eyes. Im 41. Not old but not a youth either. I feel fucking lonely.

Ludways · 24/08/2014 01:13

I have a gay friend who was once quite promiscuous and I know several hetero men he's slept with. One being a neighbour of mine who is married with children, my neighbour hasn't spoken to me in two years since he saw my friend get out of my car. He runs in the house when I drive up.

darksideofthemooncup · 24/08/2014 02:42

I don't know how long I can keep up the pretence of being happily married.

Solo · 24/08/2014 02:51

I hated the pretence too darkest and pretending makes things worse when you finally get the courage to get out of the situation because in my experience "there was never anything wrong" in other peoples eyes, because you've hidden it so well. It can be done though and I hope you find the strength to do so.