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Graham Norton's answer on his "advice" page in the Telegraph

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SauceForTheGander · 04/06/2014 13:56

I'm just catching up on the weekend's papers & read this - and posting here as it's not dissimilar to threads started in Relationships.

Q: Dear Graham
I strongly suspect my husband is looking at pornography on his computer, and I don’t know how to approach him about it. He seems to look at it at any opportunity: when I am watching my favourite programmes, or I go out. He says he is doing his photos (he is an amateur photographer) but I know he isn’t. If I go upstairs there is a lot of shuffling about (this also happens if I open the front door having been out). I have tried creeping up the stairs to see what he is doing, but they creak too much. I have obviously thought of asking him directly, but I feel he will not admit it and I am not computer literate so I don’t know how to prove it. Have you any suggestions? You may say this is something a lot of men do, but I don’t like him doing it. I have even thought of buying a spy camera, which really shouldn’t even enter my head.
Poppy,
Buckinghamshire

Here's Graham's answer

A: Dear Poppy
No man is especially proud of looking at porn but in terms of bad behaviour in a relationship I think we can all agree that it ranks fairly low. I understand that there are questions of morality when it comes to the production of these films but then you probably wear make-up that has been tested on animals. The modern world is a moral minefield and we must all tread carefully.
There are some questions you must ask yourself. Is your husband paying you less sexual attention than you’d like? If the answer is yes then you have a right to comment on his computer-based activities because you would rather he focus his attentions on you. If, as I suspect, the answer is no, then you may just have to accept that you have married a man with a sex drive considerably greater than yours. Deny him his online fun and I wonder where he might go next? A lot of women bestow on men an emotional depth that we don’t possess. This has nothing to do with you or your relationship. It is very basic. Part of his pleasure may lie in the fact that it’s secret. Try to forgive his weakness and see his inept attempts to hide his clandestine internet activities as somehow sweet. By the way, if you really are completely computer illiterate, good luck operating that spy camera!

Poppy - I doubt you're mumsnetter - but I wish you were. I wish you'd come to the relationships section and talked to us first.

Any other Poppy's out there? Graham is talking utter bollocks. Looking at porn constantly (if that's what her DH is actually doing) is not "sweet"

This was in the telegraph FFS. I don't think he should be allowed to give out advice - I hope Poppy hasn't followed it.

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StackALee · 04/06/2014 16:14

Shame because I like the bit he does on his radio show with the comedian whos name I don't know.

Perhaps he got a bit carried away when they gave him the job on the newspaper.

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BeCool · 04/06/2014 16:16

yes I understand your point vest but how does outright lying fit in with a trusting relationship?

If my P started lying to be about something I was concerned about, or wanted to talk about together it would be a big issue whatever they were lying about.

How far would you trust your H stretch, if he started to lie to you rather than engage in a conversation with you?

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Notso · 04/06/2014 16:17

I'm not really sure why anyone is expecting Graham Norton to give out serious relationship advice, I know he does that but in his radio show but he doesn't seem to give proper advice on that. It is a bit tongue in cheek.

Reading Poppy's letter, some of you are jumping to a lot of conclusions. She hasn't even asked him about it and has no evidence other than 'shuffling'.

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Migsy1 · 04/06/2014 16:22

A lot of women bestow on men an emotional depth that we don’t possess.

I agree with that though ;)

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AnyFucker · 04/06/2014 16:25

Bloody hell ! Another person I quite liked opens their gob and spoils it.

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 04/06/2014 16:30

"Gay man says looking at porno is no threat to the relationship in a heterosexual marriage, even if it's in secret and it's obssessive, so just suck it up" shock.

These problem questions in publications are all made up and always have been. And if GN really composed that answer I'll eat my hat.

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BitOutOfPractice · 04/06/2014 16:31

AF I am clinging to the hope that GN didn't write it Sad

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AnyFucker · 04/06/2014 16:33

Didn't that neanderthal from EastEnders (Danny Danny Dyer ...) get into bother for allegedly answering a question in Nuts/insert misogynist rag of choice with horrid shit. It turned out he just put his name to it. Not much of an excuse, admittedly.

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TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 04/06/2014 16:33

I think we should all draft a new letter to Graham ?

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BeCool · 04/06/2014 16:34

yes still he puts his name and face to the column, and no doubt banks the fee for it!!! So he does have to own it.

I'm not holding my breath waiting for him to say "oh golly I made a mistake with that one"!

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LittlePeaPod · 04/06/2014 16:34

I think most men look at porn and wank in secret even the ones that say they would never do such a think Hmm. Some are simply better at hiding their secret habits.

With regards Graham. His a comic and a lot if what he does has a tongue and cheek element to it. We must also bear in mind he was probably tipsy, if not pissed when he responded. He does like a drink or two from what I hear!

Last but not least, why on earth would anyone write to GN for advice! How could anyone possibly take the advice he gives seriously?

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SoleSource · 04/06/2014 16:58

Dear Poppy

Your 'D'H is a scumbum, LTB.

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SauceForTheGander · 04/06/2014 17:07

I think the mumsnet response for Poppy would be much more useful than GN's response.

GN has set himself up as an agony uncle for The Telegraph & a nice little earner it is for him too as he's put together a book of his best bits. So it's a bit more than just his passing opinion.

It's full of victim blaming shit which basically says if your sex life isn't affected your DH should be able to do what he damn well pleases.

Those of you who say porn is fine are missing the point - according to this letter (real or not) whatever her DH is doing is taking up all his free time - he's on line, covertly, at every opportunity . If it is porn then he's well on the way to being a porn addict. As you're capable of googling for porn I'm sure you don't need me to google the damage porn can do you when you're addicted.

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calmet · 04/06/2014 17:14

Poppy wasn't happy with it. Telling someone who isn't happy with an issue in their relationship that they are wrong to feel like that, is never good advice.

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buffythebarbieslayer · 04/06/2014 17:17

Graham Norton is a nasty misogynist. His show is sexist as well

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lljkk · 04/06/2014 17:21

Disclaimer: don't encounter GN that often. Would he really give different advice if Poppy were a Peter?

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Lottapianos · 04/06/2014 17:23

So gutted - I really enjoy his radio show and have read on other MN threads that he is a lovely person. This is utterly shit advice though. Porn is no big deal, better let him carry on or he'll start shagging around, and men have no decent emotional depth?!! So wrong.

Mind you, I remember GN saying how much he loved that ghastly 'Blurred Lines' last summer and blaming the women in the video for taking part so maybe this latest crap is not so shocking.

I think Twitter folks should definitely tweet him about it

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SauceForTheGander · 04/06/2014 17:28

It's horrendously sexist advice - and DH wasn't impressed either - contrary to what people think some men don't spend their time looking at porn. This double speak of men really can't help themselves & they are so weak & incapable beings. It's bullshit & GN doesn't believe it that either. He believes it's their right to look at porn if they want. Regardless of what goes on behind the scenes & then equates that with testing cosmetics on animals.

bleurgh.

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SauceForTheGander · 04/06/2014 17:28

Twitter - I'm tempted but not sure I can face the storm it might create.

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JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/06/2014 17:29

We are all allowed to keep some things to ourselves, even within a marriage. I think masturbating is one of those things!

This isn't a discussion about masturbation, it's about porn-use, no? I wonder why you are confused.

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OwlCapone · 04/06/2014 17:31

whatever her DH is doing is taking up all his free time

It doesn't say it is taking up all his free time.
She only assumes it is porn.
She prefers to assume her DH is lying rather than asking him about it.

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OwlCapone · 04/06/2014 17:34

Ignoring GNs advice, I find it interesting that, on MN, the imaginary Poppy is automatically right and her imaginary Dh is a scumbag.

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JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/06/2014 17:36

Well, I wouldn't want to be married to him! And an amateur photographer to boot!

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BringMeTea · 04/06/2014 17:36

Another Graham lover sad about this. I disagree that he is a misogynist. I think he comes across as a very nice, bright, insightful person who I would love to have at a dinner party/pub crawl. And a couple of years ago I read some very good advice he gave someone. Well, I thought it was.

So. This is disappointing. Can someone tweet him? I feel as though he would care. I may be a bit naive.

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JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/06/2014 17:38

I think he is very funny. I heard him say to someone 'and are you still a Buddhist?" and this still makes me laugh.

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