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Dear STBXH

973 replies

WellWhoKnew · 10/05/2014 22:44

Thank you for trying to save me costs of divorce by selecting a solicitor for me and by covering their costs, you are doing me a favour, I know.

Thank you for being fair by offering to take only 40% of the assets in my name to enable a quick resolution to the end of the marriage, which is what you want.

Of course, I realise that the assets in your name aren't mine because you are the man. Sorry you are THE MAN. I do keep getting things wrong, so I perfectly understand that you want a divorce.

All the same, thank you for offering me a speedy divorce by asking me to agree that we have been separated for two years so that I can move on with my life. Okay, we both know it's less than two weeks in actualment since you walked. I remain in shock but I'm so grateful that you have my best interests at heart during this difficult time.

So, Soon To Be Ex-Husband, thank you.

Because you are a twat and I'm so much better off without you.

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mistlethrush · 28/08/2014 14:04

That's underhand trying to get relations to communicate on his behalf. Should have expected it of him I suppose, based upon track record.

I'm sure that your Form E has been ready for some time, in good order, and truthful. Look forward to hearing what he thinks he can get away with on his.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/08/2014 14:39

I'm not surprised for a second that he's forcing his family to be 'piggy in the middle'. How very hard for them, and for you since I know you have a good relationship with them.

Unfair and underhanded as always, it seems. Selfish to the bone, he is. But, as always, you WILL come through this with all flags flying. There may be a little damage to your lovely ship, but nothing that can't be repaired and refitted once you are in your 'safe harbour'.

My, I'm nautical today. Must be because I'm on holiday in the mountains, but longing for the sea.

mistlethrush · 28/08/2014 15:19

I hope you have a 'stock phrase' along the lines of 'I'm sorry, I'm not going to discuss the divorce / matters that relate to STBXH and our marriage / matters of admin with you as there is no need for you to get involved in matters that only concern XH and me' or words to that effect? (and get it in early rather than waiting for it all to come out... unless it fascinates you what he's asked them to negotiate upon next!)

WellWhoKnew · 28/08/2014 16:25

I am Mrs No-Contact for my sins....

Dear STBXH,

You know how when you removed all the documents, which you deemed relevant, from my home...and I realised that you have left some behind. I wrote to you about that on here.

And you know how when you insisted I sell some assets which are clearly in your name, but wrote to my solicitors to threaten me with consequences if I did. I wrote about that on here. The documents you are so keen to secure relate to those assets, which I have also had you remove from my home.

And you know how when you wrote to my solicitors refusing to move your assets and threatening me with criminal prosecution if I had in anyway damaged them. I wrote about that on here.

I didn't write on here, but I did confirm to you directly, that I did put those documents with your belongings for your retrieval from my home. Those documents, should you ever find them, aren't drenched in urine, cut up in a million pieces nor have they been used to wipe my arse with.

You cannot be prosecuted for thoughts. Just actions.

I just put them in a safe place where they wouldn't get damaged in transit so get off your arse and look for them. They aren't hidden.

By the way, am I being sceptical but your friends and family seem to come out of the woodwork on some pretext of 'mail' or 'admin' just as we hit key points in the divorce timetable?

I miss them, just like I miss you sometimes. They haven't done anything wrong but I won't deal with them because, quite frankly, I find hearing that you're alive and well very upsetting.

As I say, I cannot be prosecuted for thoughts. Just actions.

So far I have managed to stay on the right side of the law. It is a conscious decision, a moral one and the right one.

But you can just fuck off.

Wife, who is realising that doing nothing can be the right thing.

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mistlethrush · 28/08/2014 21:19

Perfect!

Zebraface · 28/08/2014 21:22

Just wanted to let you know I feel for you WWK.
I have been lurking without posting,but today sense you are feeling low.

Please be assured you have the moral high ground and for your future self respect.....no matter what kind of lying cheating shit he is..../you are doing the right thing.

koko

Loriens · 28/08/2014 23:43

WWK will pm you shortly, just wanted to say KOKO and it is fine to realise that sometimes doing nothing CAN be the right thing.

WellWhoKnew · 29/08/2014 21:45

Dear STBXH,

Just got home from hanging out with some neighbours, as you do on a Friday night. I've had a few wines, as you do, on a Friday night.

Funnily enough, I mentioned you. I told them that I remain Mrs NC, but whilst I say 'he can just fuck off' a lot, you know I don't really mean it, don't you? I was just saying that I didn't expect to hear from you anymore now that you'd instructed solicitors.

And I was just a little sad about that.

After all, it's provided mucho amusement over time. But alas, you felt the urge to remain masterful in your dickheadedness.

On a Friday night.

Seriously could you not find something else to do other than write to my solicitors (sigh!), on minor matters of personal administration.

On a Friday night?

Oh, and of course you have an immediate need to know about assets in my name and what is happening with them.

On a Friday night!

Now, we all know your solicitors are philatelists: that means that the information you seek (honestly conveyed within my Form E) remains courtesy of Her Majesty's Snail Mail - given it was only sent to the court yesterday. When that has arrived, they will endeavor, again courtesy of a horse and stagecoach, to deliver it to you.

But not on a Friday night.

If you're in such a hurry to get me to sell them, then get an ex-parte court order (go me with me legalese!) to compel me to do so. You know how court works now - having been through it once. Surely you learnt something? Yes, it's costly but, you know, if you win, and I have been behaving like a twat, I pay your court fees. Or do you have dementia? Something you omitted to mention in 16 page medical report to send to the judge.

Now I'm wondering: are you even aware it's a Friday night?

Surely, filling a court application would be more productive on a Friday night? Or ring a friend. Or grab a beer and watch telly. Or just have a wank. Or sex. Or something.

Oh, no. Sorry - although curiously you left that off your 16 page medical report, I've just realised.

But you know, chill out - that's what Friday nights are for.

Anyway, courtesy of Her Majesty's Pillar Boxes, languishes news that the judge has agreed that I have behaved most unreasonably by not taking your dick issues seriously. Our Nisi is to be issued.

It's just a shame that the dick on the top of your head remains firmly in charge.

On a Friday night.

But whilst you have nothing to do than wank the dick on the top of your head, I've had a lovely day and now chilling out with a glass of wine.

I dare say, my solicitor has done the same, given she's on holiday. Then I'm going on holiday. Then maybe, when we can be bother to catch up, we'll deal with your 'ishoos'.

But not on a Friday night.

Yours, wife and SHL: both having a rather chilled Friday night.

Wine?

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mistlethrush · 29/08/2014 21:52

Wine and Flowers and Cake

MangoBiscuit · 29/08/2014 23:55

Raises a Wine in salute to WWK, and having a chilled Friday night.

ChasedByBees · 30/08/2014 07:48

He really is an idiot. Does the nisi mean this will all be over soon?

WellWhoKnew · 30/08/2014 09:37

Nope. The Nisi means he can apply for Absolute but the Financial Order won't be sorted out until next year Sad. I'm the respondent so can't stall the divorce with it.

He really is scrapping the barrel now and running out of things to provoke me with (I hope).

I've had a cunning plan this morning so when I meet up with my solicitor I'll chat to her and hopefully get all this nonsense this stopped.

The good thing about it is that I truly no longer love him.

He is an odious little man.

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orangefusion · 30/08/2014 10:21

I went to my nisi divorce hearing. The judge was surprised but very nice and said it was nice to see someone taking it seriously. He also said "I should not give advice, I am the the judge. But, do not come here seeking an absolute until you have signed and sorted the consent form that deals with finances. It is more difficult after the absolute is granted to sort out money issues."

I took his advice, but mine was quite simple.

Have a relaxing Saturday if you can x

WellWhoKnew · 30/08/2014 10:32

The judge's advice is right - it's just that the petitioner is the odious little man with control issues so not much I can do about it.

However, as with all the problems he presents we generally find legal, sensible solutions. Then the solutions send him orbital because I don't go cap in hand saying 'please sir'.

and on and on the merry go round goes.

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WellWhoKnew · 01/09/2014 03:13

Dear XH come November,

Today is the four month anniversary of your leaving. I thought I should record my thoughts on that.

Forgive me, please, for having my own thoughts.

But I am introspective these days. I am acutely aware that your influence on my life is diminishing. I am dog tired of untangling the mess you've left me in - but also realising from your last email, that you are grasping at straws to keep control.

Forgive me, please, for doing what I have to do.

You've unleashed all manner of hell in the last four months. You still assume you are the man in charge: and me supplicant to you. But our marriage was a joint affair - I contributed just as much as you did. Get over your shortcomings.

After all, I'm coming round to the fact that I'm rather glad your shortness has fucked off.

Several neighbours popped over today, or picked up the phone to check all is well. These days that's pretty routine.

I find it amazing, given I've only lived here for 15 months, just how much care and assistance I have received in the last four months. People are really amazing. That said, you're just a person, albeit someone I used to think was an outstanding one.

Now I think you are an outstanding twat. I don't understand you. If you're giving the line "my wife doesn't understand me".

I concur.

I've talked about what I'm having to do with my neighbours/local acquaintances. I told them I will never know why you've done what you've done. But I just have to deal with it. I acknowledged that I still worry about you. They all said the same thing: Fuck him - he's a twat.

I concur.

Forgive me, please, for what I say.

Everything I own, my whole way of life, is now up for sale. I am jobless, husband-less, and where you are concerned, empathy-less. But the community I am in are hugely supporting me; for thinking about what I need, and helping me solve my problems. They haven't changed: they've been like this since day one. I haven't changed either.

But when you fucked off you lost the right to influence what I think, do or say.

It's only now, that I can truly say: just fuck off.

The only thing you have over me is money. And yes, now that you've got your own solicitor, I suspect you've been given the bad news:

You can't control what I think, do or say.

Which is why you have mucked about with the money - the only precious weapon you still believe you have.

Which is why you are now going to be sent a missive to make you put down your ammunition.

I suspect you've be told that all the assets in our names are to be shared.

I suspect you are furious that divorce sucks.

I suspect you are outraged that I'm not as dumb as you need me to be.

And that's why you've done the one thing left to do. How predictable. I anticipated this months ago. In fact, so did my SHL. We were contingent for it. In fact, I asked you three times to mitigate it - and you refused, choosing to take the route of the 'martyr'.

Just like we asked you three times to co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

Now you've taken the cheap trick. It tells me you are running out of options.

Yes, it causes me problems. But, not insurmountable ones.

I'm so over you. Your pathetic attempts to make my life difficult just instill the best of me - I'm great at coping in difficult situations. I keep my head when others lose theirs.

What's ensuring I KOKO, is the fact that I've got tremendous support. I don't have to be bitter, or twisted, or bosom hoiking. I just need to be me.

So, just to remind you, when you fucked off without notice you took your perceived rights to tell me what to think, do and say.

They were only your perception anyway.

I genuinely loved you.

These days I genuinely despise you.

I am free to think, do and say. My only regret is that I remain in law, married to you.

November can't come soon enough. Please, forgive me, but I'm relying on you to make sure it happens. I don't want to be attached to you in 2015.

Quite frankly, I don't need the liability.

Your independently thinking, acting and doing wife.

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AcrossthePond55 · 01/09/2014 03:28

November 2014, eh? What a lovely, peaceful, quiet holiday season you will have. May I suggest that, this year, you adopt our American Thanksgiving Day (Nov 27 this year) for your own? A day of celebrating your blessings (even if they are blessings in disguise) and having come through a rough season.

How amazing you are!

IDismyname · 01/09/2014 03:30

Hello WWK. I've been reading this thread for a while. I'm astounded by your strength and wit in a frankly horrendous situation.

KOKO. You will get there. You have most of MN and your community behind you.

(Now go to sleep!)

Xx

Karenthetoadslayer · 02/09/2014 03:40

Hi WWK going on MN at 3 o'clock in the morning is certainly a more sensible thing to do than writing emails to one's solicitor at that time of the night. Hope you are sleeping better tonight!

auntpetunia · 02/09/2014 07:27

Just de lurking to say you are amazing!

ChasedByBees · 02/09/2014 13:01

Glad you have the love and support of friends. KOKO. Flowers

WellWhoKnew · 02/09/2014 18:42

Dear STBXH,

My lovely SHL is back from holiday - I know this because she's bang on the case again. I gather she has had the most wonderful of times so is very refreshed and able to express her lack of amusement for your latest shenanigans.

I do love how, in legal speak, she has told you to fuck off.

I particularly love how, in legal speak, she has chosen to write your solicitors to say "get your client in order".

I am disappointed to read that you have ignored the court ordered exchange of Form E.

I am now considering pursuing more costs. Quite frankly, since you can afford it, we have little to lose now. And also, you did tick the box saying you'd cover the costs - you know when you were being oh-so-reasonable.

You may find yourself in yet another court hearing sooner than you think.

And whilst I may not be able to claim 50% of your income, it will be from your income that those costs get paid and not the assets.

So, since I am somewhat inadequate in legalese, may I just say.

You are a fucking idiot.

The longer you delay this divorce, means the more alimony you pay me, the more costs I will chase you for and the bigger fool you will be.

How nice.

In other news, I keep keeping dealing with my life. Which involves making decisions and acting upon them.

You should try it sometime - it's rewarding.

Wife. Decisive and increasingly ruthless.

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Bobtailstrikesagain · 02/09/2014 19:14

Bravo wellwho! Just delurking to say that I'm really sorry for the rubbish you've gone through but so admire your strength and wisdom.

captainmummy · 03/09/2014 08:00

You're right, he such a fucking idiot! He's instigated this divorce, now he's delaying it? Does he think he's in control, he's the one making you wait, everyone is hanging on his actions? Must make him feel big and important -when in fact all he's doing is losing himself money! Money that is not even going to benefit himself, or you, but only the solicitors!
Idiot. Anyone with a brain knows that you deal as quickly as possible with the legal systems; they love a long drawn out case!

Jux · 03/09/2014 10:41

Oh, please pursue more costs!

getthefeckouttahere · 03/09/2014 10:53

Ha, he's just in a blind panic about having to give you so much of 'his' assets. It will make the super life he had planned for him a little more difficult to achieve.

I predict another solicitor sacking in the next week or two........

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