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Dear STBXH

973 replies

WellWhoKnew · 10/05/2014 22:44

Thank you for trying to save me costs of divorce by selecting a solicitor for me and by covering their costs, you are doing me a favour, I know.

Thank you for being fair by offering to take only 40% of the assets in my name to enable a quick resolution to the end of the marriage, which is what you want.

Of course, I realise that the assets in your name aren't mine because you are the man. Sorry you are THE MAN. I do keep getting things wrong, so I perfectly understand that you want a divorce.

All the same, thank you for offering me a speedy divorce by asking me to agree that we have been separated for two years so that I can move on with my life. Okay, we both know it's less than two weeks in actualment since you walked. I remain in shock but I'm so grateful that you have my best interests at heart during this difficult time.

So, Soon To Be Ex-Husband, thank you.

Because you are a twat and I'm so much better off without you.

OP posts:
WellWhoKnew · 05/08/2014 20:27

Hi Just,

Today I want him to ring and tell me he loves me he's sorry we can work it out it's all been a mistake, he will do anything for me.

I know love - we all felt the same way. Then the divorce starts and you get a sense of prospective. But the every five minutes of crying/angry/hurt cycle is exhausting but so don't think you're doing anything we haven't done. Your normal and it's okay to feel how you're feeling.

It really does hurt, but honestly, if he came back, it would be on his terms, and it would be temporary, and you'd still be crushed in a longer, slower way. Cry your heart out now and don't be ashamed to, you're crying for you and your children. You are not wasting tears on him.

Remember he has chosen to do this to your children. You wouldn't let anyone hurt them, not even your family. Your marriage certificate is not a licence for him to behave badly to them. You do not lie because your husband told you to.

He has made his last decision over your lives - you're on your own now, you do it your way. You'll be amazing once you start the road to independence.

At some point in the future, you'll be ordering him to remove the birds from your premises within 14 days, and by that stage you'll not be feeling so overwrought all the time. And you may even get your first email with 'a please and thank-you' from your STBXH who has decided that obsequious is the next strategy now that he's worked out that bullying isn't having the desired effect, and in fact when we hit back, we hit back hard and that fucking hurts.

His decision to have an affair, devastates you and relieves him. Your divorce relieves you and devastates him. It does work itself out over time. You get the pain now, he gets the pain later. I'd take it our way everytime.

It's like the sex hurt and the labour was a very long orgasm this way round....

(and you get the children and house...).

Dear STBXH,

Still not here to be manipulated.

Wife, who knows you too well.

OP posts:
aylesburyduck · 05/08/2014 20:27

just you are allowed to cry, you are allowed to be angry. It's normal, and it helps to get the feelings out.

I promise you that you will get through this. Some days are much harder and darker than others but eventually they are fewer and les frequent.

In the early days just koko, minute by minute, hour by hour....

x

Jux · 05/08/2014 23:19

Just, your pain is tangible. I am so sorry he has done this to you, you don't deserve it and your children don't deserve it. Can you ask his mum, dad, sister to take the birds? Or put all of it - birds, aviary, the lot - on ebay, buyer collects? At least you won't have to see him and can start getting through your grief and pain.

Thumbwitch · 06/08/2014 01:19

Are they captive-bred birds Just? There should be some sort of bird-collectors' website that you could try and get rid of them on if your H won't deal with it.

I remember the staring into space interspersed with short sharp crying jags, and the pain - actual physical pain in the middle of my chest. Luckily I didn't have children with the wanker in my life so it was a clean break but it still took months to get through it. I realised after a year that I was over him though, which was a bonus.

WWK - your STBXH is a numskull. He does not have the measure of you at all, does he? Well, he'll learn, to his cost. Good.

Thanks to you both.

Justnotimaginitive · 06/08/2014 07:42

WWK well day 3 here now, who knew I could go 3 days without food and not feel hungry and sleep well it alludes me to an extent. I doze off and then wake up and it hits me all over again.

One of my closest friends called last night and got me drunk (I got me drunk) we made up all sorts of names for him and she reminded me of who I used to be before him, before he wore me down and made everything my fault and I spent my time trying to please him to keep him.
I hope I really hope he knows this is not a game and he has ripped my life to shreds and I am now putting the pieces back together.
He is meant to be coming to feed the birds this evening, I will be out I will leave a note for him to take them and fuck off I so not want him here 2-3 times a week that's just not going to happen.

I cannot believe how many friends and family are around me I'm not left alone other then at night.

The children keep asking it is like a knife in the heart every time.

Thank you all for your kind word they all help they really do knowing others have come through the other side.

The tears haven't started yet today.

Thumbwitch · 06/08/2014 07:50

Ah yes, the "break up diet" - I lost 1.5st in 4 weeks after mine. I was subsisting on sweet milky coffee and bananas, about all I could manage - couldn't chew, couldn't eat anything dry or fatty - couldn't even drink alcohol! Or at least I made a decision not to go that route because I was afraid if I started I would never stop!
Sleeping was hard - I used to read and read and read until I fell asleep, that helped - but I didn't have children to look after so it was easier. The only thing that got me out of bed in the mornings was needing to feed my guineapigs! Blush

Justnotimaginitive · 06/08/2014 07:52

Mad sorry what does KoKo mean ?

Justnotimaginitive · 06/08/2014 07:56

Thumb - yes it's been 3 days and the weight is falling off, I am light headed this morning so I should try and eat I suppose but what, what do I eat I cannot think of food and my throat closes up at the thought of it. I am surviving on sweet tea and wine in the evening, don't worry my mum is a drug and alcohol abuse counsellor she will keep from getting to dependant.

He hasn't called or emailed or text to ask after the kids or to speak to them who does that ?

Justnotimaginitive · 06/08/2014 07:57

However he will make the effort to come and feed those fucking birds.

aylesburyduck · 06/08/2014 08:08

it means keep on keeping on....basically keep going.

x

Thumbwitch · 06/08/2014 08:11

If you like bananas, try them - I had this massive lump in my throat too and banana was the only thing (apart from drinks) that would get past it.

Justnotimaginitive · 06/08/2014 08:33

I feel very weak and dizzy this
Morning so I am trying to eat a yogurt not having much luck Mind. It's taking
a lot to force it down.

Oh god I cannot believe he has done this to me/us. He is not the man I thought he was.

Thumbwitch · 06/08/2014 08:39

At the moment, the best advice I can give you is "one foot in front of the other and remember to breathe" - easier said than done sometimes, but it's what you do. Do whatever you can to get through the day, and don't worry about trivial stuff that really doesn't matter all that much.
Sounds like your mum is on hand - is she helping out with the children?

Walkacrossthesand · 06/08/2014 08:41

just, can I suggest that you start your own thread? The MN custom is 'one thread one OP', and at the moment there's a risk of WWK's thread and experiences being all mixed in with yours. You can recap what's happened to you in your new OP, and of course post on WWK's thread about things that she's posted, while posting your own vents, rants, grief about your situation, on your own thread.

Justnotimaginitive · 06/08/2014 08:42

Mum works full time so unable to help but his sister, mum my sisters and my friends have all offered help
If I need it .

The tears and shaking have started again.

WWK sorry for hijacking your thread.

Justnotimaginitive · 06/08/2014 08:48

Walk-

Sorry I will stop posting now.

FuckTheMagicDragon · 06/08/2014 08:59

Just please don't stop posting, you need all the support and outlets for your plain you can find. Copy and past what you have posted here - call it's 'his bloody birds' or something. People will find you and talk to you.

FuckTheMagicDragon · 06/08/2014 09:00

Pain not plain, sorry *

Nevergrowingup · 06/08/2014 09:00

Just, take care and listen to the advice from everyone here. I agree that you would find a thread of your own really helpful. If you think the support on this thread is wonderful, your own thread will more than double that. Use this space to take you through the next few days. It will be one of the things that takes you back to yourself. xx

Holdthepage · 06/08/2014 09:16

Just - do start your own thread. You will get the most incredible support & advice & you will be able to look back & see how you have changed in a short space of time. I have seen it happen & it really is inspiring. You will be one of those women who inspire others with your experience.

Thumbwitch · 06/08/2014 09:35

Just - please do start your own thread - link it here if you like, we'll come over and give you advice on your own thread. It makes it easier to see when you post if you're the OP, because lots of us will have the settings to have the OP's posts highlighted, so new posters can follow your story more easily too. Please keep posting - we're here to help/support. Thanks

WellWhoKnew · 06/08/2014 11:07

Hi Just,

Don't apologise love - it is not a problem that you have posted here, you can see that I understand exactly what your going through.

Someone above is correct that writing your own thread is a great way of reminding yourself a) what the hell he put you through, and b) how you are slowing coming to terms with it c) the wide variety of emotions that this kind of treachery creates in a person. I will certainly support yours and give you any advice I can, and if I can't I'll give you a quick KOKO (Keep on Keeping on).

When I started writing these letters, he'd left me nearly two weeks before. I was drunk, utterly distressed and still in panic mode. No one in RL had a clue that I was in my own private hell, reading MN, desperately hoping he'd "see sense". I wasn't even sure he was trying to take me for a ride...I still couldn't believe he was capable of that! I really thought he was a decent fella (Mrs Naivety has left the building now).

But I fully understand how devastated you feel (and the bit you write about a game resonates too: I felt for ages afterwards that this was an attempt to 'punish' me for not agreeing him on everything) but that he'd be back.

This thread was the first step (aside from making a solicitor's appointment) that I acknowledged my situation. I expected others to vent away here, and welcome them if they do. But others are right, when I look back to me then, and compare it to me now, a lot has changed, so I'd encourage you to write your own thread because it records the horror you are having to deal with. For personal reasons, I don't write everything he does because I just simply can't find any humour in it, or because I'm still trying to find a solution to the problem he's created.

In time, your thread will represent you at your lowest and remind you that you are now the fabulous, independent, wonderful woman your friend remembers about you. In the army, they dismantle the boy, and turn them into the man. It's a tough process. We're not in the army, but you are being battered in an emotional bootcamp. You'll come out thinner, stronger, more assertive, and educated. You will be amazing again soon.

It's really only now that I am utterly repulsed by the idea of having to ever see him again. If I saw him I would just say 'coward, liar, bully' over and over again like a madwoman! The first court hearing when I got 96% of my maintenance claim, and my costs awarded, was the biggest wake up call that it is not me being mad or unreasonable. This didn't happen just because I got a SHL or a SHB, yes they definitely were a very important part of the proceedings: this happened because he really is behaving utterly appallingly - and I'm having to cope with it. Humour masks a vast array of sadness, anger and disbelief: but it's my coping mechanism and I'm sticking with it!

So don't stop writing on MN, because it does help you process your feelings. We all care, so many of us have been there, and we can support other women who are experiencing this, when we've been there and accepted that support ourselves. We know you matter, and we know you didn't deserve this, and you're in the right place to get great advice.

Take care, love.

WWK

OP posts:
WellWhoKnew · 06/08/2014 11:21

your - you're going through.

Dear Coward, Liar, Bully,

Your latest ploy to get me to abandon my SHL hasn't worked. My BIL, with whom you used to have a great relationship, has given me a litigation loan. I love how you are overwhelming concerned with what I should put in my Form Es these days. You know I've got a SHL who is very accustomed to filling them in?

But yes, don't worry I've added my debt to my Form E. Making 'your' car look a trifle cheap.

It's unfortunate that every avenue seems to get us back to the same place: A court house.

I know how we can get out of this maze, but since you're THE MAN - you lead the way. I mean you could ask a solicitor, but the stereotype of men is they never ask for directions. You're really doing men a disservice by pandering to stereotype.

Wife, enjoying a brisk walk.

OP posts:
Meerka · 06/08/2014 11:33

My BIL, with whom you used to have a great relationship, has given me a litigation loan.

wow

Dazoo · 06/08/2014 11:48

It is so pleasing to read about the inital court results, WWK, but your posts to Just, as well as being so helpful and supportive make me even happier as you can see how much bigger, better and braver you feel now.

I might be being presumptuos but here's a link to a thread Just started on Sunday that I read. I don't often feel I can add much of use on these threads as I've never been so dreadfully betrayed. But I steam with anger at the hurt these idiots cause.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2149817-I-think-my-whole-world-fell-apart-Again?msgid=48723387#48723387

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