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Is it true most men would rather be with women under 35?

362 replies

adjani77 · 18/04/2014 00:24

Unfortunately for me I have been reading a lot online on the "manosphere" recently and a lot about what men think about women ( or a certain kind of man). Talk about "Sexual market Value" which basically amount to women of 30+ are basically hideous monsters to men their own age and older. I see this to on dating websites where men mostly are prepared to date women 10 - 15 years younger but will often not even want to date women the same age as them!

In the press recently 2 high profile men Stephen Hendry and Rowan Atkinson have both left their wives for women half their age (both women are also dead ringers for the 1st wives!).

I find it really depressing. I understand that we can get attracted to other people but if you have a good marriage, if your man is getting love, sex, affection and friendship surely he will have no reason to stray right?

I just don't know. Perhaps I am just worried about getting older 40 in a few years and how will that affect my partners satisfaction with me?

It seems that even men who are happy and love their wives / partners can fall in love with someone else, someone younger and transfer their love and affection to another. I guess I just need to accept that nothing is ever certain in life.

Has anyone else read any of that manosphere stuff about women and SMV etc what do you think?

OP posts:
Tiredstilltired · 24/04/2014 15:02

I think when men (or women!) think of youth, they imagine the very attractive models and young girls we are exposed to in the media as the norm. When in reality a lot of young women are attractive, a significant proportion of them can be spotty, chubby and no more attractive then anyone else.
We are also led to believe that women 45 and above are written off and are old, saggy, grey and fat. Some may be, but many women on this age group are very attractive.
There are so many factors. Being young does not automatically make you attractive just as being older doesn't mean you are no longer sexy.

OPohdear · 24/04/2014 17:34

You see, I think it's because of cultural conditioning that some people consider 'old, saggy, grey and fat' (and I'm not talking frail old or morbidly obese fat) to be inherently unsexy. It's not, especially in healthy-looking women. Of course people have personal preferences, many of which come from childhood (I've got a theory that boys fancy girls that are physically the opposite of their mums), but the idea that men think younger women are inherently sexier than older women is, I believe, a myth. But it's a very powerful myth (with a grain of truth, ie the procreation imperative, at its heart), as we can see on this thread...

MelonadeAgain · 24/04/2014 17:37

It just doesn't happen like the OP suggests. As a teenager I had no appeal to even slightly older men. They were more interested in slightly older, more sophisticated women. They just weren't interested in us schoolgirls, or if they were they were a bit weird. We would have called them pervs and laughed at them. At uni even a two or three year age gap seemed unsurmountable to most of us. But what has remained consistent in my experience, is that large numbers of younger men are interested. I'm sure lack of availability rules that out for many of them.

This is what makes me think things are maybe different in less educated sections of society. Most men I know want a wife or girlfriend they can be proud of, not embarrassed by.

Latara · 24/04/2014 18:02

Hmm I've been observing couples lately and it seems that age is the last consideration for the man of the couple - all the very loved up couples I've seen recently were of a similar age.

Including some the wrong side of 65 holding hands, so nice to see.

neiljames77 · 24/04/2014 18:03

MelonadeAgain - I agree with nearly everything you've said on this thread but the last remark sounds a bit snobby. It's like when 'less educated' women misbehave on a night out with their mates, they attract all kinds of disparaging remarks. Yet when the posh girls behave in a similar manner, it's just viewed as high jinks and letting their hair down.

Latara · 24/04/2014 18:05

Anyway I'm 37 and recently got asked out by a 23yr old. No, I did not accept because a) he was a patient so it was inappropriate and b) he was far too young.

I've recently dated a 30 yr old man, a 39 yr old and tonight I'm dating a 46 yr old. I'm a bit nervous because I normally date men in their 30s (no reason, it's just happened that way). I'm worried that I won't be sophisticated enough for him... well let's see.

MelonadeAgain · 24/04/2014 18:16

Neiljames77 I don't know any other way of referring to people who have been to university. Am I meant to pretend they don't exist? I'm guessing that other groups behave differently, how do you do this without getting into class warfare? Some of the people you read about in the newspapers for example. But my personal experience is mainly of the professions, and the professions tend to date within the professions and prefer similarity in partners. Even in my hobbies, I see the same thing. I'm not in a position to speak for everyone, and I guess some men must be attracted to very young women, but I'm struggling to recall any within my own social circle.

I don't know who you would describe as posh or not or what behaviour you're describing.

Latara you have reminded me of turning down a champion athlete, incredibly good looking and personable young man, simply because I was in fourth year at uni and he was a first year. I always regretted that one! He ended up being a professional athlete and then returned to being a dentist. Sigh...

neiljames77 · 24/04/2014 18:37

I'm sorry if I've misunderstood or misinterpreted what you said. It just looked like you were suggesting educated, professional men wanted women they could be proud of and I just wondered where that leaves the rest of society and how they should /do feel about the women in their lives.

I apologise if that's not what you meant though.

MelonadeAgain · 24/04/2014 19:57

Not at all. Its hard not to offend or give someone the wrong impression on the internet because you miss out all those nuances that you get in face to face communication.

I think most of the men I've worked alongside or met through work would be pretty embarrassed to have a pimply teenager by their sides who had no other "assets" than being young. Which is what the OP seems to suggest. The OP and some others are mistaking youth and attractiveness as being the same thing. Some men do go for women less educated than themselves, but I doubt its most men.

Latara · 25/04/2014 12:04

I dated the 46yr old last night. He turned out to be a lovely guy, very sporty, good looking and attractive personality. Now I just have to get a second date it's been offered but will it actually happen? Here's hoping...

Btw he seemed very happy to have met 37yr old me. :))))

neiljames77 · 25/04/2014 12:31

It wasn't avoiretre was it? If it was, you've only got 5 years left to keep him interested. Grin

AnyFucker · 25/04/2014 12:56
Grin
Latara · 25/04/2014 13:10

I hope it wasn't avoiretre then. No offence avoir.

neiljames77 · 26/04/2014 09:54

I've just seen Michelle Collins on telly this morning. She looks more attractive now than she did 20 years ago. I think she's about 50ish isn't she?

AnyFucker · 26/04/2014 12:10

Lots of women of a certain age look better than they did 20 odd years ago. In my youth in the 1980's I was a bloody fright (bad fashion, bad hair, lack of confidence etc)

These days, I reckon I look and come across much better

jjsuk · 26/04/2014 15:48

yep

neiljames77 · 26/04/2014 15:52

nope

AnyFucker · 26/04/2014 17:59

What are you disagreeing with, neil ?

neiljames77 · 26/04/2014 18:15

I'm assuming jjsuk was answering the original question.
I know what you might have been thinking but it wasn't that.

If it's any consolation, in the 80's, I wore a Pringle jumper that only old men playing golf would wear these days, jumbo cords and red Kicker shoes. If I walked around now wearing what I did back then, people would think the fucking circus was in town. (oh and I had streaks in my hair ffs)

AnyFucker · 26/04/2014 18:25

1980's fashion bloody terrible Smile

RyvitaSesame · 26/04/2014 18:37

Eyebrows that had never seen a tweezer, shiny forehead, frizzly hair, too pale make up, un flattering clothes, colours, patterns, lipstick...... i cant speak for every woman but i feel better now that i did at 20.
Look at jennifer aniston pre-feris beuller's day off series. Look at her now.

neiljames77 · 26/04/2014 19:10

I even used to roll up my jacket sleeves.....................what a twat. Grin

AnyFucker · 26/04/2014 19:11

hehe

I wore footless tights and legwarmers. FFS.

RyvitaSesame · 26/04/2014 19:23

Mullet - tick!
Fingerless gloves inside even while eating - tick
Plastic zip earrings
2,nd hole piereced in ear

I saw a picture of myself at 19 at a debs a while back ( my so-called prime according to men!) and i laughed and winced, i looked like i had polished my face with an industrial sander and then glossed it with varnish. If id known how shiny and white my face was i wouldnt have left the house til i was 28

AnyFucker · 26/04/2014 19:27

When I look at photo's of myself from the 80's I look like a stuffed Lady Di with a poker up my arse and shoulder pads from Dynasty (and about 20 years older than I am now ..)

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