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Is it true most men would rather be with women under 35?

362 replies

adjani77 · 18/04/2014 00:24

Unfortunately for me I have been reading a lot online on the "manosphere" recently and a lot about what men think about women ( or a certain kind of man). Talk about "Sexual market Value" which basically amount to women of 30+ are basically hideous monsters to men their own age and older. I see this to on dating websites where men mostly are prepared to date women 10 - 15 years younger but will often not even want to date women the same age as them!

In the press recently 2 high profile men Stephen Hendry and Rowan Atkinson have both left their wives for women half their age (both women are also dead ringers for the 1st wives!).

I find it really depressing. I understand that we can get attracted to other people but if you have a good marriage, if your man is getting love, sex, affection and friendship surely he will have no reason to stray right?

I just don't know. Perhaps I am just worried about getting older 40 in a few years and how will that affect my partners satisfaction with me?

It seems that even men who are happy and love their wives / partners can fall in love with someone else, someone younger and transfer their love and affection to another. I guess I just need to accept that nothing is ever certain in life.

Has anyone else read any of that manosphere stuff about women and SMV etc what do you think?

OP posts:
FastLoris · 20/04/2014 21:25

Melonade - I don't really understand your post as it references me but seems concerned with something other than anything I wrote. Maybe you're getting me confused with someone else.

As far as I can recall I've only made three basic points on this thread:

  1. Most men are more attracted in a purely sexual sense to younger women than older ones.
  1. Pure sexual attraction is only one factor in the huge complex of factors that determine whom one has a relationship with.
  1. I'm not convinced that the phenomenon of men leaving their wives for younger women is any more common among uneducated men than educated ones, and I'm not going to accept an assertion to that effect without evidence.

None of that seems particularly controversial to me, but I'm happy to continue discussing anything about it if it is.

MelonadeAgain · 21/04/2014 13:44

I wonder if there is a term for a polite silence on an internet thread, you know while people shift slightly uncomfortably in their seats, look at their nails, pretend to be staring into the distance in response to something that gives them the creeps, then slowly wander off so as not to be associated with it...

ParsifalforEaster · 21/04/2014 14:50

Grin Melonade

I'm actually quite enjoying their rantings slow Easter

The angry failed musician and the angry failed lawyer have decided to re-invent themselves, as self styled Spokespeople of All Men, and Advisors to Women. 'the beast will out' and all that.

So....over thirty five year old women, you know if your date/long term partner isn't lusting after the spotty seventeen year old waitress....

ITS BECAUSE THEY'RE GAY

One learns a new thing on Mumsnet every day...

FastLoris · 21/04/2014 20:05

Oh I see...

The thing about Oxford lecturers was a joke, based on the fact that friends of mine who went there tend to remark on how many of the lecturers WERE gay. I didn't particularly mean anything by it - sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

Other than that, like I said before I'm happy to engage over anything I've actually written. But you're clearly not, so... whatever.

flippinada · 21/04/2014 20:19

I really wouldn't worry about what men do or don't prefer, it's not important and rather liberating to not care.

Of course some men will get dreadfully offended that you aren't tying yourself in knots fretting about whether they find you attractive or not, but they aren't worth bothering about.

RyvitaSesame · 21/04/2014 21:34

i think stilltired is right. at 20, I would have been properly revolted by the thoughts of a boyfriend in his forties. Maybe that is because my parents had me young. My father is the standard (for their generation) a25 years older than I am. I don't know if this is why I find that path (dating older men) just such a depressing cop out, like giving up.
But then, somebody else said that no woman goes looking for a poor man regardless of her age. I think I would have agreed with that when I was much younger but having been in a relationship where money is power (and it was abused) I quite LIKE the idea of a man without money. So long as he's solvent. There are limits. No gambling debts.
But stilltired is so right, young women before they start thinking about what makes a boyfriend a potential husband, they are drawn to the closest thing to a 'fit male' that they can find. Human nature I guess.
I wish I could go through my twenties with the wisdom of a forty year old. But alas................. that aint gonna happen. So, I'm going to lock my children in the shed, and do laps of tesco.

MelonadeAgain · 21/04/2014 21:53

FastLoris I can't help noticing that you seem confused. So I will try to spell it out:-

(a) Posters don't seem interested in discussing your own very personal tastes, possibly due to cultural or psychological reasons.

(b) Your own very personal tastes do seem a little unusual, and you mistake them for being the norm.

(c) You have described your own personal tastes in such a way as to deter other posters from "engaging" with you.

(d) The discussion will continue whether or not you are "convinced". You miscalculate the interest that other posters have in your personal views.

(e) I do not wish to engage with you further.

FastLoris · 21/04/2014 22:15

OK. I don't really know what I said to set you off like that but fair enough - let's just draw a line under it.

neiljames77 · 21/04/2014 22:36

If you're going to do laps of Tesco, RyvitaSesame ,make sure you have something in your trolley, otherwise people will think you're the store detective. Any man that might catch your eye will feel defensive and assume you think he's pilfering.

SolidGoldBrass · 22/04/2014 00:27

One thing this thread has done is make me glad all over again that I have no interest in internet dating. At nearly 50 with a lively skin condition all over my face, I'd be sure to get some interestin propositions, wouldn't I?

AnyFucker · 22/04/2014 00:39

Fuck me, did I wander into an episode of Sex and The City circa 1998 ?

Uptheanty · 22/04/2014 05:28

Who would you be Anyfucker?

AnyFucker · 22/04/2014 07:27

Good question, anty.
I would be Steve... the most normal, non neurotic, non sexist, non male centric one Smile

RyvitaSesame · 23/04/2014 01:13

Neiljames, in boots recently the store security guard trailed me round the shop and i thought "wow it's been years since i was suspectedof shop lifting". Reckon it was cos i was wandering around aimlessly killing my lunch hour.... not because i had a big coat.

Amyfucker, i couldnt staaaaaand that stupid programme.

RyvitaSesame · 23/04/2014 01:19

Does anybody remember a thread where a poster's husband told her she didnt have a good body like shakira's. She was so hurt and vented about it here, where she was quite rightly advised to show him the door and wish him good luck with Shakira.

I think it is depressing that some men think like they do but if they reveal it to you then you can wish them good luck with Shakira sooner rather than later.

RyvitaSesame · 23/04/2014 01:21

Think ill put pringles and beerin my basket. That'll catch a man's attention quicker than red peppers and leeks!

neiljames77 · 23/04/2014 06:00

Nah, that'll just make them think you're buying them for your partner as a treat. (not that women don't eat pringles and drink beer of course)

avoiretre · 23/04/2014 06:30

I'm a man and prefer women over 35, but under 42/3 ideally. I won't go into the reasons, I'll only get shot to pieces!

chaseface · 23/04/2014 07:25

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AnyFucker · 23/04/2014 07:54

I would just love what makes a woman sexually worthless to avoir after the age of 43

Not

AnyFucker · 23/04/2014 07:54

*to know

neiljames77 · 23/04/2014 09:25

avoiretre - How old are you? And what will you do if you find a woman in that age bracket when she turns 43?
I'm curious to know your reasons for both ends of the age range.

Twinklestein · 23/04/2014 10:23

Who cares what his reasons are. There are lot of men on the net with stringent theories of who they will date, and they're mainly single...

RyvitaSesame · 23/04/2014 11:43

Wow, that's so specific avoiretre.

RyvitaSesame · 23/04/2014 11:45

True anyfucker, id also rather not know!

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