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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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GrannyOnTheSchoolRun · 09/07/2014 02:43

When you told us you'd bumped into Mr A and that he'd relayed info to you, I wanted to say to you don't listen to gossip and just be a bit careful about what you say to people, even if you are relaying the truth.

Now that you've told us Mr A told your husband he'd seen you Im even more of the opinion you should be careful about what you say to people etc.

There's something about Mr A's text to your husband that isn't ringing true, I think he has omitted to tell you just what was in it that prompted your husband not replying to him, but more than this - Mr A sounds like a gossip with too much time on his hands.

Just be careful, please.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/07/2014 15:20

I can see what granny is saying to a certain extent. Not necessarily that A is a 'spy in the enemy camp', just that it's normal for people to run with the hares & hunt with the hounds at this stage. Often times they aren't sure whose side they're going to come down on. I'd just be sure I didn't tell him anything I don't want MrWT to know & keep a sharp ear open for anything that sounds like A is digging for info.

I agree with the counselor, you are flying high and free. Now just soar on over to MrWT and drop some 'bird bombs' on his shoulder!

pointythings · 10/07/2014 22:50

Forget birds, Across, what Mr WT needs is a deposit from one of these...

pointythings · 10/07/2014 22:50

Forget birds, Across, what Mr WT needs is a deposit from one of these...

pointythings · 10/07/2014 22:50

Forget birds, Across, what Mr WT needs is a deposit from one of these...

pointythings · 10/07/2014 22:52

Forget birds, Across, what Mr WT needs is a deposit from one of these...

pointythings · 10/07/2014 22:57

Picture upload fail, was meant to be a flying cow. MN not playing ball tonight...

growingolddicustingly · 11/07/2014 12:42

That would have been a herd of flying cows pointy!

pointythings · 11/07/2014 12:54
Grin

Never had a mega multiple post before. But now that you mention it - let's see if this one works.

PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(
growingolddicustingly · 11/07/2014 13:07

^^^ like Grin

AcrossthePond55 · 11/07/2014 17:13

Ha ha ha ha! Cows flying in a circular pattern dropping bombs repeatedly. A 'bovine barrage' as it were.

Creates a lovely mental picture, doesn't it?

pointythings · 12/07/2014 18:56

We're a heck of a cheer squad, aren't we? Grin

Anniegetyourgun · 12/07/2014 23:58

Moo.

MrsC1969HJ · 13/07/2014 20:51

Hi lovely ladies! You do make me smile, amazing cheer squad indeed! That did make me laugh, especially Pointy's multiple posts! Nearly at 1000! So, there has been a few things, nothing major and I need to clarify a few points too. I didn't explain the connection with "A" very well at all reading back my posts. Right, A is the son of my neighbour. It was he I thought was supplying Mr WT with steroids last summer when he had a personality transplant. I haven't spoken to A in 8 months because of this. He approached my friend (another neighbour) the week before last and said he couldn't understand why I no longer spoke to him. She explained and he was shocked and surprised. She then told me, so I decided to approach him and asked him to come and see me for a talk about this. He readily agreed and that is what we did. He didn't supply the steroids and was quite upset about the whole thing. It was this conversation that led onto me finding out he was in contact with Mr WT....he is a flooring contractor and has also done some work for Mr WT and the rest you know. Granny is right that caution is needed and indeed my MIL said to me not to say anything to him that I DIDN'T want to get back to Mr WT, similar to the advice of Across. Just be cautious was the advice. I totally agree. Anyway, he then told Mr WT that we had had an air clearing conversation, that he was quite shocked at my version of events etc...Mr WT has not responded, still, and actually has not contacted A's father either, which he does quite regularly apparently. Mr WT will know that they will now know the truth of the situation and I suspect they won't hear from him again. He needs to be able to spin his ridiculous version of events and now he can't. He loses somebody every bloody day. He even told A that he had been living in a shared house when he moved out and how awful it was, miles from here...utter utter nonsense! It's the fact that he also lies to his friends that gets me...he can't be straight with anybody which makes you wonder what the hell else he's hiding!

Anyway, DS came back from contact yesterday with a note saying "DS had the runs at 2 pm". Good, I hope he did it everywhere. DS is very reluctant to talk about what they did but later last night said about the OW (calls her the wrong name) who apparently said "hello darling" and gave him a kiss!! WTF? Who the hell is she to be kissing my son???? I am furious, absolutely furious. I will deal with it by letter this week. I nearly posted on her FB business page last night I was so angry...I stopped myself because I had had wine and realised not a good idea, but who does this woman think she is?!??!

Anyway, now we're onto the "no contact" thing. So, he literally is uncontactable. It is ridiculous. This week I have to cancel Wednesday's access as it is DS's leaver's sports day at nursery. So, I am going to leave a note on the door saying "I tried to contact you but couldn't, access cancelled". What sort of a tosser is he? Who does that?! God I wish he'd fall of a cliff...

Anyway, hope all good with all of you....oh and my date cancelled on Saturday, well he cancelled Friday due to an issue with his eldest child, a girl aged 13, I realise that these things happen but was disappointed. Never mind...xxxx

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LBZT · 13/07/2014 21:00

mrsc just wanted to say please don't respond to the ow giving your son a kiss you won't get anywhere and they will spin that you are mad. I think it would be wiser to pick your battles and nothing can be achieved by telling her not to kiss your son. I know you are angry but remember your day in court is on the horizon and this could end up changing the whole playing field.

LBZT · 13/07/2014 21:03

Just wondered what the legal advice is in regards to not having any contact with ex. Surely without communication between you he cannot expect to have contact and how can this be described as co-parenting.

MrsC1969HJ · 13/07/2014 21:10

LBZT, no I know, but I will be sending a reminder of the agreement. It is actually beyond belief given that Mr WT has started saying he is worried about an eventual stepfather having a role in sons life and how he "can't bear to think about it"....so it's OK for him, but not for me?! How can he even say that out loud!

I am beginning to wonder if he is actually doing this on purpose so that I restrict access and then he can say I am stopping him seeing his son. I wouldn't put anything past him at all. I have sent a text that has bounced back and have emailed, bounced back. If I can pre-warn him of access changes then that is his own fault. So note on door it is. I will take a photo of it and make sure it's documented. What a prick!

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AcrossthePond55 · 13/07/2014 22:07

I agree, don't make an issue of the OW's kiss. Be angry, but use it constructively. Weed the garden and make her face every weed. Scrub her face off the kitchen floor. But don't bring emotion into the visitation issue.

He may think his nc'ing may affect access, but I don't think his making it impossible for you to contact him will affect court proceedings. I don't think any reasonable judge would expect someone to cancel things important to the child (like sports day) because you can't get ahold of Mr WT to inform him. Nor to sit for hours waiting for him to show up because you can't contact him to see if he's coming.* I would, however, continue to send email/texts regarding contact and keep the bounce backs. He may very well be getting them. My DH knows how to set his email so that he gets the email and at the same time a 'bounce back' message is sent to the sender making it look like the email account is closed.

I'm sure he can't 'bear to think about' a stepfather. Because he 'can't bear' to think of you being happy and in a fulfilling relationship. And he 'can't bear' the thought of his son seeing what a good, caring, PROPER man really is!

*BTW, my BFF's ex used to do this and it was infuriating to her to see her son sit on the steps for hours and hours waiting. She had her agreement amended to give him a two hour window to pick up unless he notified her and made other arrangements. Something to think about.

pointythings · 13/07/2014 22:19

I second and third and fourth what everyone else has said. Let the kiss go, it's just a piece of theatre they are playing at to get to you. Don't let it work.

I do think keeping evidence that you have tried to contact him in a reasonable manner is a good idea. He just wants you to dance to his call, but no court in the land is going to deny your DS the normal routines of daily life.

Nats3003 · 13/07/2014 22:30

I just want to let you know that I went through something similar. It was really awful, but please know that it does get better. And my god, you are better off without him. Good luck, I wish you all the best. Please let me know how it goes,
N x

MrsC1969HJ · 13/07/2014 22:43

Across, that is exactly what I am doing..keeping a record/screenshots etc of it all. This is in case he makes an application to court...he hasn't done thus far...and won't I believe, slightly playing with fire there given all that has happened and his behaviour. Pinkballoon has suggested I put this note on the door (although in an envelope addressed to Mr WT)...

"Apologies - I was unable to contact you (given your no contact rule) to explain that today is DS's sports day, therefore contact can not take place. Presuming though that you are aware of this through your own contact with the school? Thank you"

So I am going to do that...have done all the usual...it's up to him, talk about paint yourself into a corner...!

Nats3003, thank you so much for posting, it's good to know I am not alone and this is why MN is such a great place to be. I am a LOT better than I was a few months ago and know that I am much better off without despite the odd wobble...there is no going back. I hope things are better for you too my darling x

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inlectorecumbit · 13/07/2014 22:59

Have reported your post MrsC names mentioned !!!

MrsC1969HJ · 13/07/2014 23:09

Thank you inlectorecumbit...it was because I copied and pasted...just realised! Have PM'd you. Mostly everybody knows DS's name now but I don't tend to post it on here...it's fine, I am not worried. Thank you so much for pointing out and taking time to do so...I wish you could edit your messages on here...and I wish that you had a "like" button too! Smile x

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Turkswife · 13/07/2014 23:10

Great note but why start with apologies ? Makes it sound as if you're admitting a fault. I'd just start with 'I was unable to contact you...

(I'm a name-changing lurker who's been cheering you on from the sidelines).

MrsC1969HJ · 13/07/2014 23:12

Ha ha Turkswife...I do love a lurker! I do wonder how many people read this and I am so grateful for sideline support! You're right of course, I will update accordingly :-) x

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