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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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pointythings · 05/07/2014 19:24

Never forget that being on the spectrum is not an excuse for being a malicious wankering twatting tosser of a human being, OK?

MrsC1969HJ · 05/07/2014 20:24

Oh my goodness, we are only 98 posts away from needing a new thread! What are we going to call the next one? :-)

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MrsC1969HJ · 05/07/2014 20:27

Pointy...no it bloody isn't! No excuse whatsoever! My son will be educated about this by his mother and his sister...believe me :-) x

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pointythings · 05/07/2014 20:41

Ooh, we could have a MrsC fan club thread title competition!

MrsC1969HJ · 05/07/2014 20:45

Ha ha Pointy, go for it...I was thinking along the lines of "Who's Desperate Now"....:-) x

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pointythings · 05/07/2014 21:00

What about 'The Further Adventures of Mr WT'?

MrsC1969HJ · 05/07/2014 21:05

Ha ha, love that!! :-D

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AcrossthePond55 · 05/07/2014 21:21

"Chapter Two, in which Mr WT Gets What's Coming to Him"

"The Triumph of MrsC"

"Gee, Mr WT, bet you wish you'd kept it in your pants now, don't you?" (that's probably too long) Grin

MrsC1969HJ · 05/07/2014 21:39

LOL Across...love the last one best...:-D x

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MrsC1969HJ · 05/07/2014 21:58

Can I just say, I don't know what I would have done without all of you girls since I posted that night, utterly desperate and despairing. I have made some lovely friends, some who have hooked up with me on Facebook, some I talk to on the phone, one I email every single day without fail and is a friend for life (you know who you are Miss!), I have been so incredibly fortunate and I will be forever grateful to you all, readers, lurkers, posters, who have come here and supported me throughout what has undoubtedly been the shittest experience of my life aside from losing my mother to cancer....gosh that sounded almost evangelical, but really, I can't thank you all enough...you are my daily lifeline and voices of reason! Much love :-) xxxxxxxxxxxxx PS : Who's been on the wine, not me obviously...;-)

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pointythings · 05/07/2014 22:56

I like Across's second one, though numbers one and three have a touch of the prophetic about them.

How about 'Karma Bites Man'?

AcrossthePond55 · 06/07/2014 00:01

You know, it just goes to show that the media's portrayal of women as a bunch of clacking hens, jealous of each other, backbiting & gossiping isn't really true after all.

In times of crisis, I truly believe that women, even strangers, always band together to help each other out. It's just our nature. And this thread, and others like it, prove that.

I think that, deep down, men are scared shitless that one day we'll all get together and just take over!

MushroomSoup · 06/07/2014 00:41

Seeing as you like lurkers - here I am! I catch up with your news every day but don't post because others say it all so much better!
I'm in awe of how strong you are, and have noticed that you are strongest when you don't feel strong. Amazing!

nespressofan · 06/07/2014 01:49

Others say it better indeed. I didn't get on with women before mn, didn't particularly like women either. Bit of a tomboy me. However, this thread and some others, and indeed a bit in real life, have turned me. I DO like women, I am fortunate to have proper women in my life and I am blessed to have been able to read threads like this because I am a real woman and you Mrs C, phoning me in the middle of the night to help me when you are going through hell yourself, has been a godsend. All the best to you and to all you women who help us get through this very very ghastly time in our lives. Cheers to us all.

pointythings · 06/07/2014 21:53

I agree, nespresso. I'm rooting for MrsC because of my DH's cousin, whose exH treated her like hell - verbally and physically abusive, cheated on her, messed her about during the divorce. He opened my eyes as to how awful a small minority of men could be. I supported her then, and here on MN I try to do the same to others going through it.

And yet people like MrsC have time and warm words to spare when I hijack their threads by venting about my own problems. It's amazing.

springydaffs · 07/07/2014 19:14

Hello all!

On a vile tablet as laptop has died so I won't be my usual verbose self /cough/ but please tell me, what is a personal plate /re key/? I can get the gist though - horrid.

You sound so strong mrs,how marvellous you sound! Bravo! Bravo! X x x x

WellWhoKnew · 07/07/2014 20:22

Hi MrsC,

Good to read that you're in a happier place these days. I thought I'd pop by to say I read 'Family Law Made Simple' on Kindle by Slater and Gordon today. I know you are representing yourself, but it's really well written it explains all the different processes and describes the kinds of mistakes frequently made. Best of all it was reassuring that it doesn't matter what dirty tricks he plays, it'll all come out in the wash:

My favourite bit is:

The courts are particularly harsh in dealing with anyone who is found to have failed to make full and frank disclosure of their financial circumstances. Usually there is a significant reduction in what that person might otherwise have received in a property distribution.

It explains exactly how they can ensure your Form E is correct, and obtain financial documents from anywhere in the world. The authors stress: Disclosure of your financial assets in every detail is one of the most important things you have to do. The consequences of non-disclosure may be dire...and given the enormous power of the courts to examine your financial affairs, the risks of being caught are high.

Now doesn't that help us all sleep a little a night? Well those of us who find that reassuring, not terrifying, I suppose!

Take care,

pointythings · 07/07/2014 20:25

WWW oooh, I like that a lot. Something to put under the pillow to send MrsC off to sleep with a smile on her face.

Be afraid, Mr WT, be very afraid.

MrsC1969HJ · 07/07/2014 23:17

Hello lovelies! I was just thinking about you yesterday Springy, bless you and Handful, I hope she's OK :-). Thank you so much for lovely posts as always!!!

I thought I would give you a little update. Had a conversation with somebody I wasn't aware was in touch with Mr WT to the extent that he is. He wasn't aware that he perhaps ought to have kept his mouth shut, but it was all to my benefit really. Found out that Mr WT and OW are "going into business together", however, this did make me laugh as he is apparently being taught how to be a hairdresser. He is in fact a builder and has hands to match. The tiny little detail that appears to have escaped both of them is that Mr WT will have to be CRB checked to be able to work at her business. He is not going to get one with the police caution he received. I mean seriously, she is so desperate to hang onto him that she is now giving him a job?! Really? So, she's feeding, housing, giving him money, given him a car and now a job. From a psychology point of view I would say she was making him totally dependent on her in every way. This is indeed very useful for me with court, especially as in their dreadful poverty, she's just spent £40K on a new kitchen installed by him. Oh it was a hugely useful conversation and he apparently isn't very happy at all, not sleeping, migraines, weight problems and all due the "stress" of making the decision to "move on" from me....! This chap also was completely unaware of what Mr WT had put me through, was absolutely speechless with shock and said that all Mr WT had done was say how I had put OW through hell with continued and sustained abuse!!! Feckin' cheek! I've done no such bloody thing! They really are on another planet. It is quite unbelievable. Anyway, all noted down and will go in my questionnaire. They really think they are so clever.

WellWhoKnew...thank you so much, I have bought it :-)

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MrsC1969HJ · 07/07/2014 23:19

Springy...personal plate is a private number plate on a car...and it was engraved on a key that Mr WT gave to DS a while ago. It's belongs to OW's dead husband. Charming. I do miss your funny posts! :-) x

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TweedleDi · 08/07/2014 07:54

If you post the key back to the ow without explanation, it could be misconstrued (e.g. if she doesn't know that your son had it, getting reminder of dead husband, harassment intent?) Cover your back by putting in a short factual note about why you are returning it.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/07/2014 14:14

I'd put a note nicely stating 'I am returning this as I thought your own DS would like it as it belonged to his own late father'. See how nice you are?

Hairdresser, really? That takes artistic talent, IMHO. Being able picture how a style or colour will look on a particular person. She's really rather pathetic, isn't she? But I expect she feels she's invested so much £££ in him she better start getting a return on her investment! Sad.

So this week I'm mnetting from the sea. Temps in my area will be high 90-low 100 f so we packed the caravan & headed for the coast where it's 30 degrees cooler. Wonderful!

MrsC a lucky bit of luck running into that chap. Funny how when you are on the right side of a dispute things just fall into you lap, isn't it? Between your & wellwhoknew's knob of an ex I really wish I was filthy rich so I could fly over there just to sit in the gallery during court. Trouble is I have a nasty habit of snorting loudly when laughing hysterically. Either that or I'd be ejected for heckling them since I'm sure I'd end up thinking I was in a comedy club!

MrsC1969HJ · 08/07/2014 22:46

Evening ladies! TweedleDi, yes you're right of course, but whatever I do will be wrong. Have decided to just return it with a note saying that I don't think that it is appropriate for DS to have this key hence I am returning it. They can make of that what they will!

Oh this whole hairdresser thing is an absolute joke, it really is. I really can't find the words Across...! I will call latest contact "A", yes it has been good. However, I saw him today and he said that he had texted Mr WT to say we had had contact and a conversation and for the first time ever he didn't get a text back. The thing is Mr WT will hate this, he wants to have somebody "on side" that he can spew his shit to and all manner of stories about me safe in the knowledge that it wasn't going to get back to me. Now the truth is out, A isn't so accommodating. Also Mr WT would have liked somebody to be able to see my comings and goings and report back, not that there is anything to report back to be fair. However, I imagine contact between Mr WT and A will now cease. This is the problem with not telling your friends the truth isn't it?

I love your posts Across, they do make me laugh! How I'd love to have you all in the gallery...can you imagine?! Girl power indeed :-) x

PS : Went back to counselling today after a short break because my GP needed to authorise some more sessions for me. Counsellor was amazed at progress I had made since we last met and said "at last, you can fly"...how lovely! :-)

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handfulofcottonbuds · 08/07/2014 23:37

I'm okay mrsc - thanks for thinking of me Thanks

springydaffs · 08/07/2014 23:40

Yes you have made amazing progress Mrs. Esp from those terrible,frantic early days - phew thank goodness they've faded'

As for the hairdresser idea guffaw - it's like a hammy little parish farce! Indeed you couldn't make it up it's just so absurd and outlandish. Barmy, completely barmy.