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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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pointythings · 04/07/2014 14:32

Well, that's really going to make the judge sympathetic towards him, isn't is? Grin You must be feeling a strong temptation to hand him more and more shovels, since he is digging his own hole with such consummate skill. They do say revenge is a dish best served cold - yours is clearly going to be a tanker load of whatever your favourite ice cream is. Until you get it, just keep calm and carry on watching him sink.

myroomisatip · 04/07/2014 14:43

Been following your posts from the beginning, not posted because I really could not add to all the marvellous advice, however, right now I simply cannot resist telling you I feel utter glee at his response.

I know I am not the only one waiting to see him get his comeuppance. I have a mental picture of the court room being filled to overflowing with cheering mumsnetters! Grin

MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 14:45

Pointy, it really is ridiculous. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would have simply responded with an acknowledgement if nothing else. This stuff is all for his bundle aswell so he has just shot himself in the foot. It is rubbish that he hasn't read it, he has read it and thought "shit"...but I will request all the same information via the court and I believe the items missing are so relevant that he will be ordered to disclose anyway. He has just put himself into a corner hasn't he? Bring it on...!

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MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 14:46

myroomisatip...ha ha love that name!! Thank you so much for being a lurker and the support that comes with that! It is amazing isn't it? I think he thinks this is all just going to go away...oh well sigh...:-) x

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/07/2014 15:22

Shovels and rope, shovels and rope! If it isn't digging his own hole, he's tying the knot in a noose. What a damned fool. You know, I wonder if he did read your letter. Probably OW did and put her 'spin' on it, not realizing that it was a legal document for the divorce. I do notice that he refers to 'OW's address' trying to infer that he isn't living there. And is he really stupid enough to think that he isn't going to have to go to court or provide any documentation? "Await the courts to write me are (sic) a solicitor". I think the whole thing is a ploy not to provide info. "So sorry, Yer Honour, M'Lud, I never realized I needed to provide my finances! I thought it was just more of 'that woman's' vile abuse of me honest self, sir! I'm a poor (non)workingman I am, M'Lud, sir, and I have no finances! Whotzat, Yer Honour? Paying my bills? Um, well, um, actually, they're being paid for me in exchange for 'services rendered'. By whom? Well, um, a 'certain person'. Disclose her finances, M'Lud? I can't do that sir, she'll KILL ME! Or worse, she'll stop and I'll have to GET A JOB!' (clutches man-pearls)

For someone who wants his 'freedom', he sure isn't cooperating in getting it, is he?

And of course I knew you were kidding MrsC. I'm glad you find my advice helpful. Around my house I'm usually just thought of as Ms Bossy-pants. LOL

pointythings · 04/07/2014 15:47

Arf at 'man-pearls', Across, that is priceless...

IrianofWay · 04/07/2014 16:07

"I shouldn't be so mean, should I?"

Yep, you should.

MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 16:25

Ha ha ha Pointy, you took the words right out of my mouth!! Across, utterly brilliant and hilarious post!! Honestly you couldn't make it up could you? He has always had an issue with the words are/or, literally unable to differentiate. He really hasn't got a clue about any of it has he? The thing is, I was used to the fact that he had "issues" with expressing himself in writing and indeed used to check everything that left the house, giving due consideration to the fact that he does suffer from dyslexia. However, this is something else. If I was the OW, I would be thinking "WHAT", but I am sure she doesn't read what he writes to me. It is really very odd, the whole thing, I think he just thinks it will all go away! :-) x

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MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 16:28

IrainofWay....Ha ha! You're right of course! :-)

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AcrossthePond55 · 04/07/2014 17:12

Today is '4th of July' here. Of course it's the 4th July there, too, but for us it's a holiday, Independence Day.

So, while I'm downing a few, BBQing, and watching fireworks, I'll be celebrating YOUR independence, MrsC. You may not be legally 'free' from him yet, but you certainly are 'independent'!!!

MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 17:16

Bless you Across, so sweet of you! :-). Indeed, today I have discovered that I am a demon with the lawnmower but can't yet scale a 7ft fence :-)!!

Happy 4th of July to you, have a wonderful day/evening and I shall raise a glass to you tonight xx

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DocMcStuffinsBigBookOfOuches · 04/07/2014 19:06

So you are allowed to write to him regarding DS, but not about anything else? And he will psychically know if you have dared to write about non DS stuff and rip up and throw in bin, but will read letters that meet his requirements about being only about your son...

Ok... He just makes his case weaker and weaker every time, doesn't he?

MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 19:44

Hello Doc! Lovely to see you! Yes, that's the long and short of it "yawn"...actually, you have made a mistake there...DS is "his" son, his son only...yet he left him and is a wanker of a father. Funny that he is making all these stipulations but has missed the last two assessment appointments for ASD and has failed to turn up at the new parents' evening at DS's new school last week. Amazing really. Oh and I forgot to mention about the key...DS came home with a key, this was some time ago, as DS steals anything he can get his hands on, I sent a text to Mr WT saying that DS had returned with a key, he responded that it was "just an old key lying around the house and DS can keep it"...so I put it on a Thomas the Tank Engine keyring and DS has used it a lot in his ride on car etc...anyway yesterday I noticed that this key was engraved and was a specialist key after a quick Google...and the engraving is the private plate of the dead husband...horrors! So Mr WT has given my son a key belonging to OW's dead husband, I do hope it wasn't the key from the bike he was killed on. They are absolutely without any moral compass whatsoever. Shocking!

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3littlefrogs · 04/07/2014 20:36

Oh my goodness. That is shocking.
How long has that poor man been dead?
No respect. Awful.
MrsC, perhaps you should put that key away and give Ds a similar old key?
What do the OW's in laws think about all this?

MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 21:02

3littlefrogs, OW's husband was killed at the end of March 2013, my husband was in his bed in October (well, that's when he left and moved in, affair going on WAY before that), just shy of the 6 month anniversary. No respect at all. I will be returning that key in the post, recorded (which will no doubt be "binned" by my husband who doesn't read his post apparently). I have no idea what OW's inlaws think, but I do know that OW took my husband to their holiday home in Norfolk the week after he left me. Given that OW's cousin had no idea of the circumstances, I doubt OW's inlaws are any the wiser. I will make sure everybody knows the truth in due course and when the opportunity arises. They are both absolutely disgusting but we know that don't we?!

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3littlefrogs · 04/07/2014 21:54

That is absolutely indecent.
If I was that woman's MIL I would be appalled and distraught.
TBH MrsC If I were you I would keep the key in a safe place. Maybe his mother would like to have it at some point.Sad

3littlefrogs · 04/07/2014 21:56

This touches a nerve with me, but OW should be supporting her ILs in their grief over the loss of their son. Not carrying on with someone else's husband.
Absolutely sickening.

pointythings · 04/07/2014 22:08

I think you would probably be allowed to send him a letter admitting tearfully how wrong you have been all along, how he is your lord and master and how henceforth you will let him shag anyone he wants. Oh, and of course you will also be admitting that your DS is not on the spectrum at all, you are just a rubbish mum... I am getting waaaaay too far into his head, aren't I? Well, sod that and sod him, he will have his comeuppance in the worst way.

MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 22:11

I totally totally agree 3littlefrogs, it is utterly disgusting. I have no idea where the inlaws live, I have OW's parents' address. I honestly don't think that anybody actually knows what is going on, I just know that the story my husband and OW have spun is utter nonsense. OW's cousin confirmed that when she "met" my H at Christmas. What I will say is that OW has been utterly scathing about her mother in law on her Facebook page...really rude and condescending, but didn't mind asking her for her holiday home to stay with my husband. Vile and disgusting. Should I keep the key? Maybe I should send it to OW's parents and ask if OW's son should have it as a keepsake of his father. I don't want it in my house, it makes me feel sick :-( x

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MrsC1969HJ · 04/07/2014 22:18

Pointy God yes, I must absolutely agree to his every whim and demand...and admit to what an awful parent I am to his son...that is what he THOUGHT was going to happen, he really did, I quote "but DS should come with me, he is my son, we can give him everything, you can't now you're on benefits"...what a tosser. Sod him indeed! As OW said "a custody case will indeed be most interesting, you are the worst excuse of a loving mother I have ever seen"...says the woman who moves a man in with her 7 year old moments after his father dies...yes, I am terrible and they are not it seems!

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Clutterbugsmum · 05/07/2014 10:01

I would private message OWC about the key, saying you don't want to keep of course apologising for your ds taking it. But your ex and ow have said that they bin anything that you send them. Just to see if she has any ideas what you should do with it.

AcrossthePond55 · 05/07/2014 14:31

Actually, because I'm a class A bitch, I would do everything and anything to find OW's iL address and send it to them. Well, maybe I wouldn't, but only because I was afraid it might cause them pain.

My heart hurts for them, they MUST know at least part of what's going on. It would break my heart if my son's wife showed so little respect for his memory. I'd wonder forever if he was truly happy in his life with her and probably feel guilty if I thought I'd 'missed' some way to help him.

Had a lovely time yesterday. Many toasts said for MrsC and all the lovely MNers, my 'cousins across the pond'. Today I will admit to just a wee bit of a sore head Grin

GrannyOnTheSchoolRun · 05/07/2014 14:39

MRC1969HJ - a person couldn't make this story up, really. However, it has been lovely to see you blossom the way you are. Onward and upward!

RE your husband being dyslexic, and your son being on the Spectrum - has it ever occurred to you, even for the most fleeting of seconds, that your husband could also be on the spectrum?

MrsC1969HJ · 05/07/2014 18:52

Clutterbugsmum I think what I am going to do is send it directly to OW's business addressed to her. No note, just the key. Then I know that it is not in my house any longer!

Across...oh believe me, there are a lot of things I'd like to do and may well do in the fullness of time...especially if they keep spinning stories about me. I still can't believe that OW took my H to her IL's house for a "holiday" the moment he left me...takes my breath away, it really does. I know that my FIL is quite troubled about the late husband, it's horrible. On a happier note, so glad you had a fantastic day! Toasts all round and nothing that Advil and plenty of water won't solve I am sure :-)

GrannyOnTheSchoolRun bless you, thank you! Onwards and upwards indeed! Yes, I definitely think that my husband is on the spectrum and it is much clearer to me now after all of this...it is something we discussed a lot upthread. I probably didn't notice it so much before because I had no need to familiarise myself with these things, as I have had to do because of DS. I think in his heart, H knows it too!

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GrannyOnTheSchoolRun · 05/07/2014 19:18

Ah ok. xxxxx