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Argh! I am reading him wrong?!

425 replies

outtathefryingpan · 01/03/2014 10:22

Background: out of a long term relationship late last year, for at least the last 3 year that had become unhealthy and was manipulative and a bit controlling. Took a lot for me to realise and get the courage to leave. I'm worried this is now clouding my judgement on other situations so would like your views...

Started sleeping with a friend at beginning of Jan, (known them 2years), make it VERY clear I was not in the right place for a relationship right now and I wanted to spend sometime been single and working out who I was and getting my life into some sort of order... nice to get some positive attention though and I enjoy his company. Thought it would work okay as he's a single parent will full custody so has other things in his life to keep him busy. I have not committed to see him on any frequency, he knows this and agrees with it. I agreed I wouldn't date other people (Not a problem, I don't want to ATM!)

Last few weeks I feel likes he's constantly picking up on my behaviour regarding how quickly I reply to his text messages. I think he constantly mentions it if I don't reply immediately to his text he says he doesn't . I think he has a problem if I see my friends and not him (He doesn't say this directly but negatively comments on it). I called him on this and he's went off on one... its all me apparently. So either way I probably need to let this go, but for my own sanity, do you think I was out of order / wrong about him?

He says its rude and ignorant of me to not reply quickly and in detail. These are from yesterday...
"Some things not right, you haven't reply to my messages, do you think this is worth it" (I had been replying at 15 minute intervals?)
"Did my messages come through?" (He had sent 5 messages, I had last messaged less then an hour previously. I was at work) 10 minutes later
"My messages obviously aren't coming though" (He knows I cant reply at work!)
He'll send v long messages, and lots of them back to back, if I don't reply within 10 mins I get "nevermind" When I do reply I have to mention every point in his previous x messages...

Regarding this weekend, I am seeing a friend tomorrow. I'm not well (just a cold) so wanted to stop in last night, I went to bed at 9. I could have seen him today but haven't arranged anything as I feel hes been negatively mentioning me seeing my friend tomorrow. These are just a sample from yesterdays messages as he feels hard done by that I made plans for one day:
"Already your too busy off with other peeps again"
"...clearly you prefer to do something else instead" (rather then see him)
"You just seem to make yourself busy with others"
"We both know you'd rather be doing other things"

This is a small sample. He never makes plans to see me. I always have to suggest meeting. I always go to his.

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Scarletohello · 12/03/2014 11:49

OP you have to report these messages. He's taken no notice of the police. You have to escalate this for your own safety.

tonyblairsreallygoodlegsnbutt · 12/03/2014 11:55

Well he's already had a warning, what comes after a warning? An arrest IIRC. Definitely report everything.

slug · 12/03/2014 12:20

" He has said that he told the police I was lying and they were going to come round and question me about it but he talked them out of it as he didn't think that was fair on me and he wanted to do the right thing...."

I smell bullshit. Like hell he talked the police out of questioning you for spreading lies about him.

Hissy · 12/03/2014 12:33

Hold firm, no contact, and report, report report.

Hissy · 12/03/2014 12:33

Hold firm, no contact, and report, report report.

Qix · 12/03/2014 12:37

Please report.

GarlicMarchHare · 12/03/2014 12:44

How very bloody deluded. You're the one with reams of evidence to show the police! But he thought he could pass it off as 'lies', despite all the proof you have?

Twit.

KatieScarlett2833 · 12/03/2014 12:48

He's still trying to make out he is the one in control here, hence the lie about the Police coming to interview you (which I'm sure they would love to be made aware of).
Big man got a telling off, he's decided to twist that to minimise your actions and that of the authorities.
He needs an even bigger telling off, one which preferably results in a criminal charge.

LoisPuddingLane · 12/03/2014 12:52

Even if it were a "relationship" as he told the police, his behaviour would still be unacceptable.

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 12/03/2014 13:05

Hope you're doing okay, fryingpan, he is a loon.

LoisPuddingLane · 12/03/2014 13:12

He is also doing anything possible to prolong the sense (to himself) that you are in a relationship of sorts. The accusations of lies, the requests to be friends, it's all to keep some sort of connection going, so that in his head, you and he are an ongoing thing.

Ignore, report. Ignore, report. He must take this seriously.

magoria · 12/03/2014 13:27

It doesn't matter if you were married for 20 years, dating for 5 or shag buddies for two months.

You have told him it is over. You have told him to cease contact.

The police will not be coming around about you telling lies.

They will if you contact them take it further as you are being harassed and threatened with rapr.

pictish · 12/03/2014 16:26

He has said that he told the police I was lying and they were going to come round and question me about it but he talked them out of it as he didn't think that was fair on me and he wanted to do the right thing....

Fairenuff · 12/03/2014 16:32

He has said that he told the police I was lying and they were going to come round and question me about it but he talked them out of it as he didn't think that was fair on me and he wanted to do the right thing....

That's a lie.

However, he has very kindly put that lie into writing which you can show the police or a voicemail message which they can listen to.

He's not very bright is he.

He is providing all the evidence against him which is quite handy for you OP.

GuybrushThreepwoodMP · 12/03/2014 16:56

Fucking hell OP. Make sure you update the police in every tiny detail. I think you are right to be concerned about when the nice guy act stops. The police need to take more severe action now.

outtathefryingpan · 12/03/2014 17:10

The latest... he's messaged my ex and asked if they canbe friends!? My ex has two choices apparently, he can reply back and agree or reply back and tell him to Fuck off! So much attempted control!

I have respectively asked that he doesn't reply!

Still waiting for police call back.

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livingzuid · 12/03/2014 17:21

The guy is Glenn Close stalker scary. To now be texting your ex??? Does he have a take on the situation?

Do hope the police call you soon. Hassle them if they don't. This is serious and worrying.

Fairenuff · 12/03/2014 17:22

Don't wait for them OP, it might be that other things take priority and yours gets put on the back burner again.

Ring them now and tell them it's escalating.

AgathaF · 12/03/2014 18:42

Very worrying. As others have said - phone the police and tell them the harassment is escalating.

GarlicMarchHare · 12/03/2014 19:02

What???!!! This freak is really invading your life Shock

Yes, it's a massive escalation and I am now quite worried for you ... Hope your ex doesn't reply. Are your neighbours still on side? You might need backup when if he starts camping on your doorstep.

Also, I'd tell your boss about this, if you haven't already. Stalkery types often try to stitch you up with work and/or barge into the office.

AnandaTimeIn · 12/03/2014 19:11

Highly toxic man!!

Run and block him - I presume you did already.... (15 pages on..).

AnandaTimeIn · 12/03/2014 19:16

Oh shit, I'm so sorry you are having to go through this!

Police coming round? Good. Everything is documented now.

Oh yes, and good idea for letting your boss/manager know there's a crazy stalking you.

Hissy · 12/03/2014 19:26

Jay-sus!

This guy messaged your ex?

Just as well you're on flaming good terms with the ex!

It is VITAL that your ex doesn't respond.

He gave him 2 choices? Wtaf.

Replying in anyway feeds this weirdo.

He needs to contact the police too.

You are going to have to go the whole way with this guy!

I'm so sorry, this must be terrifying!

DollyTwat · 12/03/2014 19:43

This is awful for you outta, he may be trying to goad your ex into threatening him, so very important he doesn't respond

outtathefryingpan · 12/03/2014 19:51

Called police again so waiting to get call back but hopefully if I get annoying they will respond sooner Smile

Very lucky the ex is on side, he thinks the guy is a psychopath and isn't going to respond so that's good. I'll mention the message he received when I speak to the police, its only one at the moment but if he gets more he'll happily put a complaint in about the guy too.

My boss knows but works down south, she has said I'm welcome to go and work down there for a week if I want - I will do this if he steps it up - so that's quite good being able to disappear at a moments notice.

People in the office I'm based in also know, we are actually in a very high security building and there are security guards on site for the building at all times. If he showed at work he would have a job getting close to me. I often work away as well so he would have no way of knowing if I was at the office or not so it would be a gamble to show up anyway.

The messages now are 'nice' for want of a better word, "will you give it a second though", "I miss you", "I hope to hear from you" "I hope one day you'll get in touch", etc, etc, etc, oh and "lets scrub whats happened this week"... what I'm getting concerned about is what happens when he gets pissed off and this nice guy act stops. Get the feeling he's not going away quietly.

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