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Staying DRY

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MrsSippie · 20/02/2014 10:25

This is a continuation of the last thread DRY We are all doing our best to abstain completely from alcohol. Smile

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nochips · 29/03/2014 13:59

I will tell him eventually. But I do not feel able to just yet. So many reasons why not. He just genuinely could take or leave alcohol. He does not understand why it might be a problem. Why I cannot tell him yet in no particular order;

  1. I am a bit of a perfectionist, and am always worried that if I fall short in peoples eyes then they will not love me.
  2. I feel so ashamed that with everything I have achieved in my life, I cannot get to grips with this.
  3. Our marriage is just back on track after a pretty dreadful 3 years. I don't take that for granted so am afraid that if we ever split up he will use it against me.
  4. He had an alcoholic ex, and the way he spoke about her makes me fearful about how he might think of and speak about me. (Although apparently she was very violent and used to attack him physically).
  5. he works away during the week- so he does not really know how it is. So I think if I can sort it myself, then it can be my very own dirty little secret.
  6. I am rarely 'drunk'. I am just always topped up.

I can do it, I know I can. I think that drinking is so normalised, and something that Lucy from Soberistas wrote in her book really hit home for me. You normalise what is going on around you. We live among a peer group that drink very very hard. So my bottle of wine (plus a bit more) a night is completely normalised.

What is strange though, when I was ttc and pg, I was teetotal, and did not care. It was about something bigger than me. I guess I need to believe that being teetotal and healthy FOR me is a valid enough aim. It is almost like I feel that I alone are not worth it, if you know what I mean.

Gosh. Who would have thought that a glass of wine would have made me throw up all of that. Confused

nochips · 29/03/2014 14:02

excuse appalling grammar.

NiceTabard · 29/03/2014 14:04

They are all good reasons, I wasn't trying to push you just seeing if it was an option Smile

You sound very similar to me! Bottle of wine + a night, check. Teetotal when there was something at stake other than yourself ie a baby, check. Finding it hard to come to terms with stopping drinking "for me" rather than any outside reason, check. Being generally very capable with one massive achilles heel which people would be shocked if they found out how bad it was, check. Etc.

We can do it and we will Smile

NiceTabard · 29/03/2014 14:05

Because I have really had enough and it's been years and the way it was heading was getting worse and I need to stop before i lose something important because of it.

Is the bottom line.

nochips · 29/03/2014 14:09
Thanks

I feel calmer now. Newly committed, as I am still feeling a little dizzy. When I have tried to stop before, the little voices after a while 'see you can do it, so you do not really have a problem'. That crept back in today.

Pfff!

nochips · 29/03/2014 14:10

Yes I agree and feel like you. I think if I do not kick it in touch now, and this time, then I am going to slip over the cliff.

NiceTabard · 29/03/2014 14:13

YY that whole thing of going a couple of days and then thinking well then, I can do it if I like, so there's no need to not have a drink.

It's addicts logic, that.

Bitter experience tells me that it will never ever ever just be one, my drinking will never be "normal", and that carrying on as I was is no longer a feasible option for a range of reasons.

nochips · 29/03/2014 14:18

Also, drinking is just so boring. I have wasted 20 years of my life obsessing about where the next drink is coming from; what time is an okay time to start drinking; not going to do stuff in the evening (classes, hobbies etc) because it interferes with drinking; being sub-par at work because of drinking too much the night before.

It's fucking dull.

I have really liked not drinking lately. I have felt happy and proud. I like THAT feeling more than what I am feeling now!

NiceTabard · 29/03/2014 14:28

snap to all of that again.

I also had the constant worry of if I did have a drink away from home, what I'd end up doing.

nochips · 29/03/2014 14:30

I cannot think of too many upsides. Sometimes it is fun, and relaxing. Most of the time, for me at least, it is fraught.

What a crappy drug!

SlippedDisco · 29/03/2014 16:44

Angryfeet and Newbie wow, that's some sober days racked up there, well bloody done! Smile Newbie I'm not sure how to advise re the stag do, as if it's anything like the majority of celebrations of that type I'm fairly certain bucket loads of booze are going to be involved - for me at this stage of my journey I'd probably have to stay away, but that's a bit of a cop out answer, sorry!

I'm nodding along to so much of the above! nochips don't beat yourself up any more today, sounds like you've learned a lot from your blip and it must be really hard if you can't explain to those around you why even just one glass isn't a good idea. Keep on keeping on, you're doing so well.

Tabard I also had a pretty wild time in my youth; it's actually really embarrassing to say this but I made a better recreational druggie than I did a drunk Blush in that I never 'lost control' as such, could always remember what I'd done/said (even if some of it was pretty random rubbish) and I never found myself in a strange place/bed/trouble the next morning etc. Only partied at weekends, mostly recovered by Monday morning...irony is I thought I was being grown up and sensible for sticking with alcohol and viewing drugs as an appalling activity once my DCs arrived...perfectly legal, acceptable, everyone else is doing it...so much more cleaner than recreational drugs...yet the truth is, they're both as bad as each other, in different ways granted, but both still guaranteed to fast-track me to a miserable existence. Yet alcohol felt OK to be getting stuck into on a regular basis.

I'm still clinging on to my e-cig (for now, one thing at a time! Grin) and neck large amounts of coffee on a daily basis, so I think there'll always be parts of my addictive nature that I'll never quite see the back of!

stayingdry · 29/03/2014 17:56

alot to read today on here, don't kick yourself nochips, it was a glass of wine, and sounds like you realise you can't.
had a pretty tough time today too, popped coop for milk, queueing next to the wine, why do they do that, put till next to wine, bastards, alcoholic thoughts started, partner away, wouldn't know, sunny day, glass of wine in the garden, course I could just have a couple Envy Then I twigged, if I could only have a couple why was I eyeing up the 3 litre boxes Angry came close, but told that alcohol monkey on my shoulder to fuck offWink phew made it to 205 days, close shave.
take care all x

nochips · 29/03/2014 18:04

wow. 205 days!

That is very seriously impressive. :)

I keep thinking 'well, I've blown it now, start again fresh tomorrow' but am staying strong and reminding myself that really alcohol brings very little of value to my life.

:)

Thanks
MrsSippie · 29/03/2014 20:45

Hey all,lots of posts since I was here! Good to see that everyone is so determined. Slip ups do happen but as long as we know that and don't_'t get tortuous about it, then it:s dealable with.

Nothing exciting to report, went to the cinema this morning with dd2, something that could never have happened a few months ago. Thoroughly enjoyed it (frozen) Grin

It was my 5 months sober yesterday. Incredible. Celebrated it with my best 5k time. I can:t actually believe it is me just writing that Grin

In Bed now with my hot choccy and nice book! Mother coming tomorrow which is going to be very hard but I intend to run a long way after she's gone!

Stay well xx

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nochips · 29/03/2014 21:15

Congratulations on the 5 km and 5 months Mrs. Hope the day with your mother goes much better than you fear.

Am in bed. Apart from my slip, I have been okay. Tea again. Thanks everyone. :)

bonesarecoralmade · 30/03/2014 08:42

Day 7.

Happy mother's day to all who are mothers.

Dds' presents and cards to me made me cry. In a good way.

Have a great day all. X

stayingdry · 30/03/2014 08:53

happy mothers day xxGrin
lovely pressies from my 3 sons, especially a line in my card writen by my 16 year old, we are very proud of you mum. wow,Smile
That was a tear jerker, and to think I was tempted yesterday, .

good luck with your mum sippie, having a toxic mother myself can feel for you. Don't see her so not a problem, but grit your teeth is all I can say, take care xx

bonesarecoralmade · 30/03/2014 09:31

Good luck Sippie x

MrsSippie · 30/03/2014 10:11

Happy mothers day! Had a lovely bunch of flowers from ds he chose and paidnfor them himself - so sweet! And dd2 made me a card out of wood (!) Haven't heard from dd1 yet which is unusual so am torturing myself with thoughts of 'well I was so awful I don't blame her' :(

Dreading today - I know my mother will Witter on about my sister and do the 'I don't know why she won't speak to me...' I do, but there would no point at all in saying anything, I just have to leave the room and breathe deeply!

At least I have dh who is always here for me to scream at!

I hope everyone is OK - have a lovely sober day xx

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stayingdry · 30/03/2014 11:37

mrsSIppie, excuse my asking, but why put yourself through the torture of your mother? Shes obviously a torment to you, and your serenity is very important, particularly with your sobrierty.
wouldn't you and hence your family be happier without her in it. Sorry if this sounds intrusive but having been there I do know the heartache. take care x

MrsSippie · 30/03/2014 14:20

You're quite right! I shouldn't do it. I'm sitting upstairs so stressed already...

It's guilt, pure and simple. She makes me feel bad all the time and I don't know how to stop myself from feeling like this. I can't even explain it.

She started in the car before we had even left her driveway. Ridiculous really. Need to sort it out.sor

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MrsSippie · 30/03/2014 14:21

Oops! It's so complex, I can't even get it straight in my own head.

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nochips · 30/03/2014 19:52

MrsSippie Hope so much things went better than you feared- and better than it began today.

My DM does a neat line in guilt trips too. So I feel for you.

I had a good day today. Did some work. Took DS out for a slow walk, and an ice cream. Feeling happy.

Hope everyone is having a lovely day.

bonesarecoralmade · 31/03/2014 08:11

Goddammit day 1.
How is everyone today?

MrsSippie · 31/03/2014 08:52

bones :( what happened? Hope you're ok. Tell us about it.

Feeling pretty good today. It was hell yesterday, but I ran for 5K after she'd gone and made myself feel good about myself after a day of put downs. It has to stop, just not sure how to stop it. She's nearly 84 and I can't bring myself to go nc, much as I think it would be the best thing.

Dd1 came over too, and I gave the diary pages. She looked through and just laughed saying 'god, I was a drama queen wasn't I?'. I said sorry (again). She put some beautiful words in my mother day card, which made me cry, but of course Bloody Mother had to witter on about how I 'used' to be a 'nice girl' until I turned 'wicked' at 16. (I just discovered boys, alcohol and cannabis, you know like 90% of teenagers do? But I was 'wicked'...) She never ever fails to mention that. I even get the blame for her giving up work at 50 (it was my fault because I was so awful she couldn't concentrate. This is bollocks, she couldn't be bothered to learn about computers...) I digress.

Staying sober is so much better for my mental health though. I know I wobbled a few weeks ago, but I feel very well today, knowing I got through it and can rationalise it.

I hope everyone had a lovely day. Welcome to a new week Grin Hugs to those who need them.

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