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OH a pain when drunk

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kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 18:52

Hi

I've been in a relationship with a lovely man for about 10 months and we now live together, and are talking of marriage. There's just one thing that bothers me - and I can't seem to get anywhere talking to him about it - and I can see that over a few years it's going to become more annoying for me.

He likes his beer, and going to the pub with mates. This, I don't mind. He doesn't drink terrible amounts, but he drinks quickly and is a bit of lightweight compared to his friends. He gets drunk quickly. He only does this when I'm not there - he paces himself more when I'm around and never been a problem when we are out together. the problems are

  1. sometimes he'll go out and not come back for 2-4 hours after I was expecting him. I would like him to text me to let me know plans have changed. He has never done it. and then he gets the hump because I've got the hump. It's not that I feel any need to control what he's doing, and I've explained that, it's just inconsiderate to leave me sitting at home wondering what's going on. For example he normally gets in from work around 6. Last week he came rolling in drunk at 9. He'd been planning to cook dinner for us. I didn't know what to do. I was hungry so ended up cooking dinner, but then felt guilty about eating before he was home in case he was just stuck in traffic or something. but no, it was the pub. I felt like I was just hanging round for him. If he'd let me know he was going out, no problem.

Then when he gets home drunk he is so difficult. He cycles through all 3 of these behaviours and will keep it going for hours. Frankly, it's boring and annoying!

  1. He's repetitive and demanding - wants to keep telling me the same anecdote over and over again. He also gets argumentative - not about anything serious but something silly - something in the news, or politics, or I don't know, daft stuff. He admits himself he just feels like having an argument. These days I just cut him off and refuse to talk about whatever it is.

2)) He gets all smoochy and lovey dovey in a really demanding way - I'm trying to watch TV for example and he's all over me, wants to keep staring in my eyes declaring love. I love him too but this is every few minutes and it's sorta whiney in the way he does it (not like his usual affectionate self). It's just attention seeking. I humour it for a bit then start not wanting to play along, and then he gets really whiney 'you don't love me' blah blah.

  1. the whiney phase. I don't love him. I'm never going to marry him. He's not good enough for me. I'm going to leave him. Blah bloody blah.

then back to stage one all over again! all night.

i love him and we are so happy together. He really is the man for me - other than all this stuff. It happens maybe 1 - 3 times a month. I don't think I can stand a lifetime of it. I suppose it's harmless enough, just so bloody irritating. Once he got nasty (verbally) and upset me and was mortified the next day and hasn't done that again. Once he did it 3 times in one week and I calmly told him I wasn't going to have a life with a pisshead, and he cut down a lot after that.

But it still happens sometimes. Like tonight. I was home trying to study for something important and he's rolled in, keeps interrupting me, has told me the same story about someone 4 times so far, I kept trying to be nice and just say 'yes, you've told me, now please leave me to get on with this, love you' but he then went into big speech about 'oh you are annoyed with me now, I know I'm not what you want, you're going to leave me...blah blah'. I've just shut myself in the bedroom to study with the door shut now and left him to it, after giving him a kiss and telling him not to be silly, I love him, but please don't start all this tonight, I haven't got time.'

How can I talk to him about all this? I don't want to control him, i don't want to issue any ultimatums, I don't really want to change him (sometimes he's gone out and then just come home and gone to bed and left me in peace, that was ok) but i really can't stand this behaviour. It's the whining that gets to me more than anything.

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kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:11

No kids live with us. Mine is grown up. One of his is grown up. One of his lives with his ex wife and visits us every weekend.

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kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:13

King Rollo - I hope it's different for me, yes. But I'm realistic to see that what you say may well be the case. :-(

You know what, I'm tempted just to print out this thread, make him read it, and see what happens then.

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Dolallytats · 10/02/2014 21:26

if he is still doing this at fifty it aint goin away;the man is borderline alky, ask him if he can stop pubbing it for two moon and guage reaction

tribpot · 10/02/2014 21:32

He drinks because he's insecure.

He drinks because he's bored.

He drinks because he likes to spend time being laddish.

Don't kid yourself. He drinks because he wants to drink. He may or may not be an alcoholic, but he's a problem drinker.

Why not live separately and continue the relationship that way?

kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:32

Just went out for a cigarette with him. (yeah, yeah, bad I know)

He first said 'you've got the hump, haven't you. I'm horrible aren't I'. I just said 'stop whining. that's what gives me the hump' and he shut up for a few seconds and stopped - we then had a fairly normal sober person/drunk person conversation after that. Until he insisted on telling me a racist joke someone told him today - and he knows I hate all that. I don't think he really is racist himself, but one of his friends is, who keeps feeding him these awful jokes, and then he thinks it's funny to try and wind me up by passing it on (when he's drunk). FFS. i then said I thought said friend is an alcoholic (I really do think that) and he said no, he can't be, he has a good job. I pointed out that alcoholics are necessarily homeless winos, lots keep jobs, and he went quiet then.

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KingRollo · 10/02/2014 21:32

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kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:33

He drinks because he wants to drink.

Well, yes, that's true. The other things are what trigger him drinking at any particular time.

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kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:34

typo - alcoholics are NOT necessarily homeless winos

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tribpot · 10/02/2014 21:35

Oh he's not racist, just likes to wind you up with racism. Can you hear what you're saying?

And you're having a serious conversation about alcoholism with him whilst he's pissed. You're pissing in the wind - will he even remember this tomorrow?

kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:35

I'm definitely giving him this thread to read tomorrow night! thanks all for the perspective and advice. I'll keep you updated

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tribpot · 10/02/2014 21:36

The other things are what trigger him drinking at any particular time.

They're not triggers, they're excuses. Trust me, I've done this. Don't try and rationalise what causes (or doesn't cause) the episodes of drinking. They happen because he chooses them to happen.

kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:36

he's not racist, just likes to wind you up with racism. Can you hear what you're saying? yeah, I hear it.

And you're having a serious conversation about alcoholism with him whilst he's pissed. You're pissing in the wind - will he even remember this tomorrow? probably not. It was just a comment.

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KingRollo · 10/02/2014 21:37

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kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:37

Don't try and rationalise what causes (or doesn't cause) the episodes of drinking. They happen because he chooses them to happen.

Ok, I take your point. Yes.

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kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:39

Kingrollo - that would be one weird coincidence! If you are in Kent with two kids with him...

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AnyFucker · 10/02/2014 21:45

eh ? He isn't racist but he repeats racist "jokes" to wind you up ?

Of course he is fucking racist !

A racist with a drink problem.

AnyFucker · 10/02/2014 21:46

Christ Almighty. The knots that people will tie themselves in to excuse crappy behaviour in a partner !

kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:56

I feel so disappointed. He'd risk our relationship for a few beers. :-(

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kentishgirl · 10/02/2014 21:57

Mind, he'd probably say the same thing...she'd finish it over a few beers? I don't think he's any idea how strongly I feel about it.

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AnyFucker · 10/02/2014 21:58

He simply sounds like a dick

Drink "problem" or not, this bloke's behaviour will wear very thin, very quickly

MyNameIsInigoMontoya · 10/02/2014 22:37

You need to read the "DH is a horrible nasty drunk" (or something) thread a bit below yours... I can imagine your bloke ending up a bit like that one a couple of years down the line, even if not all the details are the same.

Bigbrassband · 10/02/2014 22:54

You posted about this same problem right at the beginning of your relationship, as I recall? If not, it was some other woman who had a new BF who got drunk then started telling her she "didn't like him any more" and wouldn't drop it.

I would say this is an ongoing issue and will continue to be so.

I would also say he sounds like a prat.

minkBernardLundy · 10/02/2014 23:00

Btw I was not suggesting that his insecuritirs are your problem to sort out. merely that he has them and he should address them some other way than getting drunk.

I think it is probAbly time to lay it on the line.

Minifingers · 10/02/2014 23:00

OP - how can you respect a man who behaves like this?

What sort of relationship can thrive when there's no respect?

I'd feel the same way about a man who got drunk and talked shit, argued and slobbered on me, as I would about a man who got drunk and shat himself. It's not a good look.

AnyFucker · 10/02/2014 23:09

Who cares what he thinks ?

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