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The Dating Thread 69

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FolkGirl · 07/02/2014 12:36

Just because I wanted to be the person to start it really Smile

Welcome one and all.

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GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 17:29

... and then have sex in his car? ;-) Lol

Santaclaws · 09/02/2014 17:31

Yeh now there's a thought Grin

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 17:33

No seriously though...

What is the male perspective on this?

[Already dreading the answer]

Santaclaws · 09/02/2014 17:35

Yes I would be very interested to know the male perspective on this also

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 17:37

It helps if one of the parties is comfortable having the other party in his house/apartment!

I don't know when I'll want a man in my house! I think I'm going to wait until I'm invited to his!

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 17:45

Ps I wouldn't actually have sex in a car haha! There isn't very much room is there?!

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 19:19

I can't remember which of you it was on the last thread who said that in between dates you feel really insecure and it's torturous. I know how you feel! Even though I've only been on one date haha! Feel like he will mess me around or something. I really need to pull some self esteem out of a bucket somewhere. Or else talk to him on the phone. Or arrange to see him before Friday. For all I know, he could be feeling the same. It's just so hard to know with texts! I don't want to phone him or text him again because I don't want to 'chase' him you know? But you know before he said whenever I'm free, he will make himself free :-) so either I should make myself free one night soon or else tell the voices in my head to be quiet and get on with the week and not dedicate so much thought and time to someone I've just met!!!! It's just that this week is quite busy & stressful. I think I already want some relief from it!

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 19:30

Ok I'm turning into a stalker now (and I'm also going to bore you all to death) but have just gone on the dating site and it says he has been online today. Now I too have been online to re-check out his profile but I think it would be naïve of me to think he was only going on there to check out mine! ;-) Sigh.

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 19:31

Ugh! I hate the idea that I'm having to compete with women who don't have children!!!

Santaclaws · 09/02/2014 19:32

green I'm the same I get insecure between dates. I am ok at the moment but that's because I'm not really involved with either of them. Once I really fall for someone I'm like some mad woman, totally insecure, worrying about everything. I actually hate being like that. It's very off putting for men as well. I do get over it though if they can weather the storm

FolkGirl · 09/02/2014 19:38

I don't like to wait too long for the whole sex thing.

Whilst OD, I met up with 11 men.

I dated one man for around 6 weeks. We dtd on date 2.
I dated another man for around 6 weeks. We dtd then and didn't see each other again.
I've been dating the man I'm seeing for just over 3 months. We dtd on date 2.

I think I either know early on that I want to dtd with them, in which case, I don't really see the point in waiting (or have the willpower). If I don't feel like I want to at the start, there's usually a good reason for it and I won't ever want to!

The chap I waited with, we got on really well, had loads in common, he'd met some of my friends, they all liked him, he was good looking, I'd met his dad... But the sex was just shit. I've learned you can tell a lot about a man's attitude to women from having sex with them. If we'd done it on date 2, it would probably never have got that far...

Is that really bad of me? I don't think I'd really thought about it, or had a plan, as such, that's just how it's turned out.

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FolkGirl · 09/02/2014 19:42

Green Do I get insecure between dates..? Hmm, let's examine the evidence...

Yes.

I'm a bit like Santa too - I'm really trying to hide that side of myself from the man I'm seeing, which means that he thinks I'm lovely and sane, but means that I'm driving you lot mad with my insecurity instead Wink

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GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 20:16

What does dtd stand for? Lol. I've never heard this but presume its sex haha

Bant · 09/02/2014 20:18

Sorry, the male perspective (or at least half of it) has been making a bacon sandwich and watching TV.

Most people have heard about the '3rd date' thing about sleeping together. That's a general expectation, so if, for example, you invite someone back to yours for a home cooked meal, then they'll be justified in thinking sex is on the agenda.

But it's down to the individual, completely. Personally I think the longer people wait before DTD, the stronger the chance is that the relationship might bloom. There are lots of anecdotal stories which disagree with that, and I don't know of any large-scale laboratory controlled research projects which bear it out.

Speaking from my experience though, I've had long term things come out of relationships where we've waited for 2 years (when we were teenagers), or 5 or 6 weeks (students) or a month or so when older.

There have also been a couple of relatively medium term things - a few months or so - where we DTD on the 3rd or 4th date. Mostly though I go off someone after sleeping with them the first time unless the emotional connection is there already, in which case I fall massively in love with them. So I choose to not do second dates with someone if I'm not feeling a strong connection or spark with them after a few hours of conversation, so I don't end up DTD with them and dumping them afterwards.

Sex doesn't have to be an emotional, lovey, romantic type of thing. It can just be physical fun between people who enjoy it. But if you have that kind of sex, it's unlikely, in my opinion, to turn into the other kind.

just my opinion of course.

Bant · 09/02/2014 20:18

Doing The Deed, GRBYP

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 20:24

Wow Bant. That male perspective is VERY interesting. Especially what you say about the two types of sex. Please tell me more about the 2 different types of sex.

Have I got it right?!

Lovey dovey = boring, hugs, kissing, usually missionary position

Fun sex = lots of positions and oral, toys

Jeez you guys are simplistic!!!!!!

oldfashionedgirl · 09/02/2014 20:25

Interesting to read a male perspective. I wondered if I really was totally old fashioned as my single friends are quite happy to DTD on a first date.

Bant · 09/02/2014 20:28

no, not at all. It's not about positions or whatever, it's about how you feel about someone, whether this is an exciting thing you're doing with someone you think is wonderful and fantastic and you think you really like them a lot, or whether this is just something fun you're doing with someone you think is attractive.

The difference between a one night stand with someone attractive and making love to someone for the first time. Big difference.

it's not about missionary versus anything else, it's about emotions.

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 20:29

Seriously Bant. How many women have offered you a home cooked meal AND invited you into their beds on the 3rd date? Has this happened to you? Or to any of the women on here?

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 20:31

Bant you are giving me an education here and it's much appreciated. So... is it the case then that a guy, before having sex for the first time always kind of knows whether or not it's a 'fun' type of scenario or a 'meaningful' type of scenario?

OhWesternWind · 09/02/2014 20:31

Hi Mumtoh and Oldfashioned - always good to see new people here.

Thinking about OD is probably more daunting than actually doing it. First date for me was definitely the hardest. It gets so much easier with practice and I was really relieved to find that almost every single man I met was pleasant and reasonable company. It's easier maybe to think of it as meeting for a chat rather than *A DATE!!!**

I think my first profile was about three sentences plus two photos. It worked fine, didn't get any better results with more text and pictures.

If you don't feel you're quite ready for dating, then wait until the right time Oldfashioned but if I'd waited til I had nothing that needed fixing I'd still be an OD virgin. All depends on what sort of things you want to work on.

Bant · 09/02/2014 20:38

Generally they've offered to come to mine to cook me a meal. I think they want to make sure I'm not married. And yes it happens a more often than not.

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple · 09/02/2014 20:39

What do they cook you?!?

oldfashionedgirl · 09/02/2014 20:40

WesternWind - dating kind of scares me as I am quite shy! And quite dull really!

I could really do with working on taking a photograph where I don't look like I belong under a bridge somewhere. Grin

OhWesternWind · 09/02/2014 20:45

I've been cooked for by all three men I saw for longer than three dates - I think it's lovely, it's such a treat for me to have someone else cook a meal. One occasion led to shaggage the same night, and the other two were a few months in.

Have never, ever offered to go to anyone's house and cook for them at theirs. That would be odd. Though Alpha cooks a lot round at mine, but we do spend more time here as I have dc and he doesn't. He's done risotto, pasta, chilli, pizza, all sorts and bloody nice too!