The Fascinating Girl by Helen Andelin

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One of my friends who knows that I am single and pretty bad with men said she would bring me the book she read before she met her husband.

It is The Fascinating Girl and she said it was wonderful and life changing and that she now has the married version.

I have flicked through it and some of it does appeal to me as it is quite old fashioned but I don't know if men are looking for the same things nowadays. Lots of stuff on femininity and a worthy character and radiant happiness. The first part is mostly about understanding men, the second is about qualities that men like in women, and the third part is about meeting and dating men.

Lots of references to book characters and I don't really know what to make of some of it.

I don't know - are men really interested in a domestic goddess who has gingham curtains and cheerful tablecloths?

I think gingham curtains and cheerful tablecloths appeal mainly to women tbh...

I'm interested to know what qualities men supposedly look for in a woman - what does the book say?

I could ask DH but I don't think he'd know

Well: the ability to drink me under the table, a mad laugh, a hide like a rhino, freckles, good at cakes and carpentry, more freckles and a complete inability to pronounce the word "antidisestablishmentarianism".

Didn't look for those, they just came with her as a package.

disgrace

Apparently men look for Angelic Qualities and Human Qualities.

Angelic = Understanding men, inner happiness, worthy character, domestic goddess.

Human = Femininity, radiant happiness, radiant health, childlikeness.

I am flicking through it and reading Be a Girl Worth Having and then am going to read Winning His Attention. Men don't notice me so maybe it will help?

I would run screaming from a man who valued "childlikeness" in a romantic partner....

Please, OP, believe you are good enough as you are, you don't have to change for anyone. That confidence will make the difference.

I think there is a reference to this book in another book I read (Carolyn Jessops book about surviving polygamy in a cult).

The general idea is to be stupid and helpless and make the man feel like a big strong hero....um no.

Why is a relationship so important to you? Maybe you should concentrate on being ok on your own...that's probably more attractive to a man than being needy and submissive.

I have been single forever and men just don't notice me. :/

Childlikeness - bit of a weird idea tbh. I quite like the domestic goddess bit and some of the femininity stuff seems nice but really strict!

I read somewhere that men dont like bookish women. Put down the books, ladies!!!

Bookish men like bookish women, so if you put the book down you may not meet your match...

I'm just going to state the bleedin' obvious: there many gazillions of different types of men out there who like different types of women.

If you impersonate a false persona from a book, you will attract guys drawn to that persona - who is not really you.

The way to attract the right guy for you is to be yourself.

I'm screwed then.

Better go tell DH to dump me forthwith...

I've read a few "attraction manuals" in my time and all of them at some point advocated growing your hair, wearing more dresses and makeup and expressing yourself in "I feel" rather than "I think" sentences.

Just reminded me horribly of the Harry Enfield "Women: Know Your Limits" sketch.

Puke!

Are you supposed to keep this up for the rest of your life if you twist yourself into knots to attract the kind of guy who likes this shit/

Gingham curtains will soon grate. Not to mind the angelic childlike femininity shizzle.

"men just don't notice me"

Maybe you just don't notice men noticing you.

Shit - I am not growing long hair and wearing make up , I'd look even worse than I do now !

Gonna be a long time single

Fuck. That.

Relive the fun!

Seriously, to have a good relationship, you don't have to systematically iron out all your freakish or difficult traits, just find another difficult freak and you're set.

And I say this is someone who was actually knocked back by eharmony due to a lack of quality matches for me!

I like telling my friends I'm a man repellant :) maybe I just need to be submissive and wear dresses more often and there was me thinking it was my halitosis :)

I like telling my friends I'm a man repellant :) maybe I just need to be submissive and wear dresses more often and there was me thinking it was my halitosis :)

Gingham? Really?

Gingham?

Cheerful tablecloths?

Have you considered shelving the relationship search and writing a book full of bullshit about how to get a man because it seems there's money to be made ...

I think you almost certainly do not want anyone who is attracted to "childlike" qualities. Do you? No. Think about it, with your mind, for a minute or two.

Ha! to the poster earlier who pointed out that gingham curtains/Cath Kidston is more of a women's thing.

What sort of person do you want to be with? You don't have to attract men, you can go looking for the ones that attract you.

Cheerful table covers?! Im away back to the male escort thread !!!

FWIW I think my habits of bandaging cadged Silk Cut with a rizla to get a decent drag, drinking pints and disagreeing completely with his politics is what attracted my DH to me.