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Aargh have I blown it by having sex on first date?

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Laurel1979 · 09/12/2013 19:11

I would really appreciate some impartial advice......

I've been single for 6 years and have an 8 year old DD. I met a lovely guy online recently and after texting for 2 weeks we arranged to go out for a meal. He's the same age as me but has no DC. We had chatted a lot on the phone before meeting and we seemed to have a lot in common, etc. There was a lot of sexual chemistry on the phone, but we agreed we both liked each other and on the first date would only kiss. We went out at the weekend there and immediately hit it off. I really like him and had a good feeling about him straight away. But...... after dinner he left me home and we ended up having sex (it was amazing sorry TMI... but definitely not typical awkward first sex). In the middle of it we both said we shouldn't be doing this but in the end couldn't keep our hands off each other. Wen he left he texted me saying what a great night he had, and yesterday he texted 3 times, just things like "good morning xx" etc.

But today - I've had a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach all day, worrying he'll think I was too easy and that we've blown it - then tonight he texted apologising for what happened, said it was fantastic but not like him at all and he didn't want "anything too heavy too quick." I texted back agreeing and said I knew we shouldn't have done it so soon, and that I hoped we hadn't ruined things. He replied no, but just didn't want anything too heavy. I jokingly texted back that we should start again and next time meet somewhere neutral and have kiss on cheek only, he agreed. Prior to meeting we had talked about going to Christmas market some day, so I suggested that we do that this weekend (he'd asked me last week about it but until today I hadn't been able to get a babysitter). S he texted back, saying he would like to but "needs to get out of a sport thing" he has on Sunday but he would definitely know on Thursday. I said no problem just let me know, he said he will. I'd say this is genuine as he is in the local sports club where he lives and helps run events.

Sorry this is so long but I'd be so grateful for your opinions as to whether I've ruined things!! Many thanks in advance.

OP posts:
MillyChristmas · 13/12/2013 13:28

I was curious to hear your reply too.

beaglesaresweet · 13/12/2013 14:36

yes, as it turns out world meant that she had sex with men not first time she meets them, but after meeting them in flesh and chatting, and then arranging a date where they have sex. Still fast for some, but at least she's seen them already in their normal mode, not put on dating mode how it's often on OD.

Yes, OP, he may have scared himself off as it's been already said, rather than being a player, but who wants to deal with this screwed-up type of guy who is scared of his own shadow? Please don't get hooked by him again, as he's bound to contact you with questions like 'So now you REALLY hate me? do you?' Confused

Laurel1979 · 13/12/2013 14:49

Yes I'm definitely not going to waste time thinking about him any more, at least I'll try anyway. I have a busy weekend planned with friends which will help take my mind off things. Part of the problem for me was that I was lulled into thinking I knew him, when I got my mobile phone bill yesterday I was shocked by the volume of texts we'd exchanged, last Tuesday there were 60!!! It didn't feel crazy at the time but in hindsight......... I think part of what Im feeling now is just the "loss" of having someone to chat to or who sends me a nice text to let me know they are thinking of me, even if it was just a 2 week period it was nice at the time, after being single for so long.

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beaglesaresweet · 13/12/2013 15:47

next time, OP, definitely meet up eralier on, and THEN you can get into all the texting and good mornings. Very understandabler that it was nice to know someone was thinking of you and wanting to know you - I'm single and would love that, but I've learned that actions have to happen before listening to words!

Thisisaghostlyeuphemism · 13/12/2013 16:26

Yeah agree with others. I think your mistake was to decide he was a lovely guy before meeting him. 60 texts in one day to a complete stranger is a bit 'heavy' - I know he was reciprocating then but still.
When I dated online, I went for a few email exchanges to arrange date, that's all.
Hope you are planning a nice weekend laurel.

HerdyHerdwick · 13/12/2013 16:50

So 60 texts exchanged on Tuesday. Loads of opportunities for him to say 'oh btw if I can't make it on Sunday, do you fancing doing .... next weekend?' or similar. But he didn't.
I think he may have a date planned this weekend with someone else and is waiting to see how it goes before 'choosing' .
I'm the first to say there's no problem with seeing others until you're ready to be exclusive with just one, but if that's the case the way he's handled it is awful.

Laurel I understand about you missing that feeling of someone being there - but you're now a step closer to finding that great guy who actually will be there for you.
I do feel that you'll hear from this one again at some point but please don't read too much into it if you do.
Have a good weekend.

SoleSorceress · 13/12/2013 17:55

Thank you for your reply to me arsenal

Chalk this up to experience OP. You've been single for a while and broken the ice.

Multi date x

Laurel1979 · 13/12/2013 18:03

Just to clarify, the crazy 60 texts was me replying to him, in case anyone thinks Im a loon (which I probably look like after reading this thread....)!

Mmm maybe multidate is a good idea :-)

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SoleSorceress · 13/12/2013 18:29

You're are not a loon, fuck all of the sort. Dating can be complex. It is a learning curve. I am so grateful for your thread.

Who knows what he may do next...but in the meantime hold the upper hand Laurel.

We can advise you here x

BitOutOfPractice · 13/12/2013 18:49

Yep, multidating. Makes you see the wheat for the chaff very clearly

frenchmanicure · 13/12/2013 19:21

I never found multi-dating worked - main problem was generally getting more than 1 date lined up at a time (tended to find out of 10 blokes messaging you, at best you'd get 2 offers of dates, possibly 1 of which would actually happen...then back to the drawing board!).

I did once have 3 dates in 4 days - first spent 20 mins snogging me at end of date, then never contacted me again. Second was awful, so I sent a 'thanks but no thanks' text. Third said I was very clever and what a great time he'd had. And never contacted me again either.

Dating is hard work.

nkf · 13/12/2013 20:05

Do not reply to that text. What is there to say anyway? He saw your message and has been busy. What is in that message that you should respond to?

BitOutOfPractice · 13/12/2013 20:09

French yes it is. It's a numbers game. So it makes sense to spread your bets

stardusty5 · 13/12/2013 20:29

JeanSeberg has basically described my online dating strategy! It worked for me and i went through the process a lot of times before i met my dp.

It really helps with preventing yourself getting too attached too quickly as you always feel that you have other options if this one doesn't work out. Its not failsafe and i had many tummy churning weeks like yours but it did get better the more I got out there and met people.

I wish you all the best in finding someone brilliant soon Smile

frenchmanicure · 13/12/2013 20:35

Oh, I appreciate it's a numbers game, I just used to find it nigh on impossible to get more than 1 date lined up at a time (aside from the one occasion I mentioned). Multi-dating seemed a good theory, I just never managed to put it into practice..

Hoping though now that my OD days are behind me :)

Imgettingthere · 13/12/2013 23:04

Yep too soon bail out and forget it ever happened.

nkf · 13/12/2013 23:06

Have a lovely weekend.

2rebecca · 13/12/2013 23:59

I don't think I could do multi dating. It seems wrong somehow. In normal dating you don't go out with different people simultaneously so i don't see why online dating should be different.
If I went out with a bloke and liked him and found out that after seeing me he was still seeing other women I'd not want to see him again. If I'm not great enough that he cancels all other women for the foreseeable future then it's not meant to be.
I do lots of sports that are full of blokes so have never needed to do internet dating.

kevinsmum · 14/12/2013 11:31

Laurel. This is a cut and paste of all the things you said about this man on the first two days of this thread:
we seemed to have a lot in common, There was a lot of sexual chemistry on the phone, we agreed we both liked each other We went out and immediately hit it off. I really like him and had a good feeling about him straight away… sex (it was amazing definitely not typical awkward first sex)… couldn't keep our hands off each other. he texted me saying what a great night he had, he texted 3 times, just things like "good morning xx" I will be so disappointed if it doesn't work out.... he usually texts first thing in the morning to say good morning and then later that day, hopefully another date will happen, he'd said twice on the phone that he'd like us to go on holiday next summer together, If it seems he wants another date, which hopefully I will know by Thursday, I'll feel a lot happier, I guess I was wanting everyone on here to tell me of course he's interested, For the 2 weeks until we met on Sat he'd been sending me a good morning text, he just seemed so keen beforehand and I had such good vibes about him Really wish I hadn't fallen for him! until he started weirding out on me yesterday everything else seemed perfect, I'm pretty certain he's not on a relationship, we are friends on Facebook he asked me to meet him 3 separate occasions he was unbelievably keen, to the point where I had to tell him to back off as he was bombarding me with texts he probably was a decent guy he said "glad u don't hate me." Seems he thought I'd be annoyed at him for wanting to have sex on first date? I'd love to talk to him If I were looking at my posts objectively I'd think he wasn't interested, but from the conversations we've had it just doesn't fit with the impression I got at the time. The night before we met up, he rang me saying he was worried I would cancel and he would be tempted to turn his phone off on Saturday until we met, as he couldn't bear seeing a message from me pulling out of the date, Friday, he'd asked me to go with him on Sunday morning (the morning after our date)
All pretty positive, eh? Now this is what you ‘friends’ here said based solely on what you had said:
MONDAY : it's like men assume that as soon as we've fucked them, we're going to get all emotionally involved, he's likely to be a misogynistic arse, don't fall into the trap of thinking he might change his mind, let's see whether he passes the first wanker test, now he's shagged you he wants to keep you at arm's length in case you get "ideas", he hasn't fallen for you yet, there are a few red flags waving, he doesn't want you to assume you are exclusive, if he judged you, sod him, he is not emotionally available, Don't waste your time, he sounds like a bit of a drama llama, you don't see him again for dust apart from maybe a booty call now and again, he decided he would get his wicked way with you, He's telling you he's not interested but you're not listening, he is not really interested, this is typical male behaviour , If he just disappears , he's a wanker, he's a misogynistic arse. I don't like the sound of him, he's emotionally unavailable, he's reeling you in.
TUESDAY now he's got what he wanted, he can barely be arsed to say 'morning'. these arent good signs cut your losses, Sounds a bit of a stone age charmer cunt, why be with a man who makes you feel insecure, he is a waster a typical OD inadequate bloke, He's giving off mixed signals, which seems designed for you to overanalyse it, Don't have the talk, he's been there, done it that is a fucking terrible sign YOU ARE NOT FREE THIS SATURDAY why place such a low value on yourself He got what he wanted, he has moved on You've fallen for a fantasy don't text him he's blown cold on you you're onto a loser you shouldn't give a shit. He has ALREADY told you enough for you to be absolutely crystal fucking clear that he is either not interested, or he is a player, he might be in a relationship already and uses this dating website on the side write him off straight away - no contact at all How do you KNOW that he means what he says you're desperately clinging on to your hopes of this relationship You don't know this man You have a daughter who is 8, it's not good for her to see her mum like this. When it's right, there's none of this shit. No second guessing, no game playing, no head games, no cold feet This man isn't interested in you, I think you sound desperate Listen. There are FUCKING LOADS of them out there why isn't he clamouring to hear from you, vow to have nothing more to do with him. Delete his number, don't reply he'll toy with your feelings and affections revelling in his role as 'puppetmaster' Dump him in your mind and pay no heed to anything more that he may do or say - it has no value whatsoever Do NOT text him.
Not one of these people has met him, not one has had a conversation with him, not one has received a text from him. Do you see what happened here? By Wednesday you were giving out signals to him that you were annoyed with him, by the end of the week you were promising these ‘friends’ you wouldn’t reply to him if and when he got in touch again.
The point is you liked him, you wanted it to work. Maybe he has cooled off, but it is for to decide, based on your own experience of him. Don’t let the mumsnet harpies dictate your life for you. These people have their own agendas – they talk of experiences with other men, as though they are relevant, as though all men are the same. They just are not. Good luck!

Thisisaghostlyeuphemism · 14/12/2013 11:52

Please tell us about our agenda, kevinsmum. It sound fascinating.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 14/12/2013 12:04

Isn't it, Thisis? I'd say that perhaps kevinsmum has an agenda himself/herself(?); no life of their own, no new issues of Take A Break handy and needing to keep the drama going by giving Laurel false hopes.

I'm happy to stick with my agenda of giving women (such as myself) a gentle shake, telling them to take stock before doing and saying things they'll regret later. I'd rather follow that 'agenda' any day than the toe-curling, excruciating claptrap posted to keep OP hooked.

I hope you're not still here, Laurel, you won't learn anything new, just regurgitated 'advice' whatever the 'agenda'.

MyBachisworsethanmybite · 14/12/2013 12:06

I think the Mumsnet agenda is that basically men should be subservient to their bossy wives!

And any that aren't are bastards.

There are a lot of bastards described, of course, but I do think the Mumsnet agenda is all about finding bastard qualities in all but the most subservient men.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 14/12/2013 12:17

I've not seen that, MyBach; I've seen double-standards though, which have been roundly - and rightly - jumped on but I don't see MN as anything other than a site which hosts and enables views and opinions from men and women alike.