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My husband is on grindr. I need some hugs and advice

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bonniescot123 · 23/09/2013 21:13

Hello. Hands shaking. Today I found my DH on Grindr.Without a doubt it is him. Posing in our ensuite bathroom. Confronted him. Says it is not him but refuses to let me see his phone. He is refusing to talk to me. Two children. 7 and 10. I am 43. Dont know what to do. Please some advice.

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SquirtedPerfumeUpNoseInBoots · 23/09/2013 22:41

How did you find him on there?

perfectstorm · 23/09/2013 22:41

Uh, no he doesn't have the upper hand, financially.

Firstly, conduct is irrelevant in divorce so this behaviour of his won't signify in any settlement, so it doesn't actually matter if you have the evidence or not. Reasons for divorce petitions are not public and he can't actually defend it anyway - all he can do is state he disputes your reasons but consents to the divorce - bam, done with. What will signify in monetary terms is that you've been married over 10 years and that you have made significant career sacrifices to support the family, and are primary carer. The starting point for division of family assets is 50/50, plus child support. If stability for the kids means you get a bit more, that's not exactly unheard of, either. Your kids are young and if at all possible it's preferred that they stay in the family home, too, so he may have to leave and you may get to keep it - all fairly complicated but NOT bad news for you. Don't panic about that.

Please see a solicitor first thing tomorrow - a good one. You know and he knows, and if he wants to be a complete bastard by denying this, attacking you, and telling himself he was justified anyway, then let him. You can ensure your kids are secure financially and you'll be just fine, in time. A solicitor will mean he realises very fast that you mean business and he could lose everything, and he may be rather more penitent when he's had time for the shock to wear off. You don't want anyone to know anyway, so if worst comes to worst he can vent and foam at the mouth while you divorce him for unreasonable behaviour, while you remain dignified and silent. I know who's going to look the one with something they want to hide. He's a fuckwit, you are not, sod the tosser unless he starts to put his big boy pants on and actually talk to you like a human being.

Is there a laptop or PC he uses at home? Some MNers are very technically savvy and there is likely to be evidence on more than just his phone, frankly. I have no clue how to obtain it but I know others here might.

cjel · 23/09/2013 22:42

He doesn't need to know that you couldn't get pics. You can and should get him to do whatever you need him to do. His world has now changed and he doesn't want this coming out in the divorce either. It really doesn't matter who earns the most your solicitor will deal with all that. just lay down the law of how you want your life to be and don't trust him an inch. see solicitor in the morning asap and get the accounts stopped so he can't move money.

CookieDoughKid · 23/09/2013 22:42

See a solicitor who will best advise on fair division of earnings. After witnessing a good friend go through divorce, who's wife was a stay at home mother with no earnings, I'd say she was well sorted for next 18 years.

perfectstorm · 23/09/2013 22:45

I should add that all assets of both parties - pension funds, property, savings, etc - are deemed joint on divorce, and divided accordingly. It doesn't matter whose name they are in. We don't have a community property regime in this country during marriage, but we do on divorce. Seriously, he is not "better off" than you if you split because everyone's dosh goes into one pot and is then divvied up.

Just thank your stars you're married. If you weren't, you'd be entitled to what you had paid for, plus child support. Family contributions such as primary childcare responsibilities aren't factored as relevant when cohabitants split up. Sad

Twinklestein · 23/09/2013 22:45

Don't despair. Book a pc specialist to trawl your/his main pc hard drive/s asap.

He may have deleted that profile tonight, and you may not have access to his phone, but it's fairly likely that he will have left traces of his activities on his pc.

Do you recall his username? Because he may have used the same username on other sites...

PeppermintPasty · 23/09/2013 22:46

Please try and tell someone in RL, a trusted friend. I'm so sorry my love.

I hope you can get angry, very quickly. You need to gather your strength and get to a solicitor as soon as you can. What a sleazy bastard he is.

Hugs to you xxx

PeppermintPasty · 23/09/2013 22:48

And agree with pp. he is probably shitting himself thinking you've got evidence. I don't see why he shouldn't carry on thinking that.

Twinklestein · 23/09/2013 22:49

I agree you need to tell a friend. You said you feel too ashamed to tell anyone, but the shame of cheating is all entirely on his head. It's no more shameful to be on gay than straight sex sites.

NotDead · 23/09/2013 22:59

Do we know that he actually did anyone? If it was a curiosity ad he may not have put anyone or himself at risk.

bonniescot123 · 23/09/2013 23:02

Thank you everyone for the advice. He has been living with this huge burden and I have no intention of destroying him or his reputation so long as he plays fair. I dont know if I can face a solicitor and have no savings to pay for one. I am going to take tomorrow off work as sick leave. Just cant face going in. Cant help wishing I was still in the dark but that is no way to live. Why could he not face up to his sexuality. He has checked out though and I deserve better. I am going to try and get some sleep. Will update tomorrow. x

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Pennies · 23/09/2013 23:04

That's the line he's going to use or that he's been set up by a friend as some kind of practical joke.

Either way, his reaction to your finding it tells you that the relationship is permanently damaged, probably irrevocably. Sad

JoinYourPlayfellows · 23/09/2013 23:04

"If it was a curiosity ad he may not have put anyone or himself at risk."

How is she EVER going to find that out?

He's still pretending that the picture of him, with all his own moles, in their bathroom, is not a picture of him.

There is no way bonnie should believe anything he says, particularly anything that minimises his involvement here.

He wouldn't let her see his phone. That indicates there were even more picture of men who aren't him doing gay things that he would never do.

Leverette · 23/09/2013 23:09

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CookieDoughKid · 23/09/2013 23:15

Your solicitor mau agree that payment comes out of the divorce settlement. My friend had to pay his wife's solicitor costs because she didn't earn enough to pay it!

Check the download folder of his phone, I'm pretty sure there will be suspicious named pack files. These websites will usually download stuff unaware of the beholder! Also check internet history on phone and laptop.

Buzzardbird · 23/09/2013 23:26

Hope you manage to get some sleep. It is time for you to think of yourself and your dcs. He knew the massive risks, you owe him nothing. He wasn't thinking of you when he was trying to get some no-strings sex.

bonniescot123 · 23/09/2013 23:30

Guess what cant sleep. He doesnt use our home laptop. He uses his work laptop a blackberry and an iphone. All password protected. I would hate to see what may be on his phone anyway. I wonder if his work would be happy if they knew he was on these sort of sites. I just hope that he will confess but he has lied this long so I think he will continue. I wanted us to grow old together. I know I have to get angry and smart now. He has also betrayed his beautiful children. Bastard. Even if he has not done the deed he has still betrayed me and I cant forgive. Another point he said was FXxx off when I said I had to go to a GUM. Says it all doesnt it. God help him if he has infected me. Feel sick at thought.

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practicality · 23/09/2013 23:44

Well done for keeping it together in the light of such a dreadful shock. I think I would have been so furious that he wouldn't have hung around.... ESP when he told you to f-off re STD check. I would have luzzed all his things out of the window at very least.

The risk he has put you at and the further lies and disrespect....I would have gone ballistic.

He is an utter shit of a person.

ireallyshouldbeworking · 23/09/2013 23:47

What was his username on Grindr? Google it and search similar websites. How did you find him on Grindr?

LittleTulip · 23/09/2013 23:50

Agree with ireally. Google his Grindr username, search on images bet you will come up with something.

bonniescot123 · 23/09/2013 23:53

Well I just stayed logged on and there are lots of guys photos and they update. From what I can gather yoor profile pic appears when you are on the site. So I guess he logged on on his way back to his wife and kids. At rhe top of his pic it just read hooks up only so I dont know if that is his login or not.

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practicality · 24/09/2013 00:08

How did you find out?

Vivacia · 24/09/2013 05:35

So to be clear, you found his profile on Grindr on your home PC? You haven't indicated why you were looking? You do have a photo of his entry? Is it a screen print or a photo of the monitor and now on your phone?

akaWisey · 24/09/2013 06:11

I agree with perfectstorm you don't need evidence of your H's activity to get a divorce, it won't make a jot of difference to a settlement or who get's residence and actually do you REALLY want to see/read more? What does it matter if he disputes it to 'save face' or whatever with family or friends? YOU know.

All you need to know is that you're clear of any STI's and your legal position so you can proceed.

Good grief, you must be so shocked.

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