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Is this normal or insensitive. Sex?

367 replies

Workwhatwork · 09/09/2013 09:43

I'm having a really shitty time right now with various things that are going on so I'm feeling quite low anyway.

Last night I was in bed with my boyfriend and I started trying it on with him. I was sort of cuddled up to his back and I started stroking his hair and back and kissing his back a bit, then touching him down there. I was running my hands up and down and then when I wernt to touch him down there again he blocked me with his arm so I took that to mean he didn't want sex and turn over to go to sleep.

He turned to me and said I was teasing him and started touching me down there. I wanted to have sex but I couldn't get wet and him touching me was hurting.

The thing is and I don't know whether it's just me, sorry for tmi, but I seem to be able to get wet more at certain times of the months, so just after my period I can't always get wet but just before I do. Sometimes my boyfriend hurts me when touching me, if he's trying to put his finger in me he will often miss by an inch or so and try to force it into the completely wrong place, he also uses spit as lube even though we have proper lube and I don't like it. Because of all this I think I've got quite jumpy especially when I'm not wet because I'm expecting for him to hurt me.

After a while of me not getting wet he started to go in a mood saying I was teasing him and obviously didn't want it as I'm not wet. I try to explain that just because I can't get wet doesn't mean I don't want to, and that sometimes it isn't just a case of sticking his hand down there for a fiddle and expecting me to have multiple orgasms, sometimes it is but sometimes I need a bit more foreplay.

It escalated into a row and he started doing over the top impressions of me jumping and saying "ooo, ooo, ahh, ahh" like a monkey as though that's what I was doing. I was a bit jumpy but it's because it was hurting and I was expecting him to try to shove his finger in where I have a wee like he often does. But apparently this is all my fault as he isn't doing anything different.

The other massve thing is, in the past, (we have been together 5 years), I have found out he has gone behind my back.

I've found out he's been on dating sites talking to other women. He says that this was when we had split up so almost doesn't matter. We were both on Facebook and he was chatting and flirting with women from chatrooms and stuff on there. He had a few younger women on there and when I asked who they were he said that they were girls from school who were a few years below him. He sort of joked that they would never look twice at him as they're too good looking (how's that supposed to make me feel) and that he'd only added them to make him look good. I also found out he had fake email addresses to use on dating sites. This was an ongoing thing over about 2 years and there were at least 10 different women I found him chatting and flirting with all from chatrooms or dating sites. I even caught him chatting with one the night after his grans funeral.

These are the things I found out, I of course don't know what else may have happened. But that I'm aware of nothing has happened since, he's no longer on Facebook and neither am I and he no longer has a computer or laptop aside from the one we share.

But last weekend I was looking through the photos on his phone. I never look at his phone so goes to show, but I was looking for some old photos of a concert we went to. And I came across a photo of a pair of boobs. No face just a top pulled up flashing the boobs, the photo was in downloads so I can only thing it was a picture message he'd been sent.

Of course I felt sick, asked him who it was. The story he gave was that he couldn't even remember her name, it was some woman from a dating site years ago and he didn't even realise it was still in the phone. But he tried to make out it wasn't a picture message but had been synced from his old laptop.

I told him to get out, it was over. But he wouldn't go, he seems to think that because it was all part of the things he was up to in the past and I'm supposed to have forgiven him, that I should just forget about it now.

But of course I can't, I don't trust him at all.

Then we went to a family party at the weekend. There was another woman on our table, a family friend. I started to feel as though he was making a particular point to speak to her. He rarely strikes up conversation with anyone and usually sits messing around with his phone but he kept making jokes to her, telling me to look at her phone case isn't it nice. Then I remember that she sent him a Christmas card last year and my name wasn't on it even though everyone elses were sent as couples.

This is how I've ended up as a result of what he's done in the past. Even if nothing is going on I feel as though he tries to get attention from young women to get an ego boost.

Sorry it's so long I just don't know what to think anymore.

OP posts:
haverer · 09/09/2013 17:12

His behaviour is revolting. I'm clenching just reading your posts. Each thing in its own is reason enough to get rid of him, but the monkey noises thing is utterly disrespectful. He sounds like a 5 year old bully. Ugh.

Workwhatwork · 09/09/2013 17:13

Seriously thank you though. I'm pretty fed up in general anyway due to a whole load of other stuff, and I was feeling very crappy after last night.

I kind of knew it wasn't right, but the way he was making out I had some sort of control of it made me feel even worse. I also felt as though I was making it up about getting more dry/wet at different times of the months. But you've confirmed that it's perfectly normal and he's just being a dick.

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EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 09/09/2013 17:14

Ugh
Utterly gross

PirateJelly · 09/09/2013 17:16

I've never posted on a relationship thread before but never ever have I felt the need to post so strongly to say PLEASE LTB!

And I'm not surprised your getting so many UTI's, just reading your opening post made me feel like I was getting one! I honestly think he's doing it on purpose to control and hurt you. No man gets to his thirties and has a 5 year relationship without understanding where he puts his fucking fingers. Angry The whole pushing your arm away when you were trying to touch him but then taking over and touching you also shouts out lack of respect and control to me as well.

And taking the piss out of u with the monkey noises, honestly OP my blood is boiling on your behalf, how dare he. Please stop trying to accommodate this arsehole by worrying whether your wet/not wet....seriously fuck him and get rid.

Never has a post envoked such feeling in me, I feel like coming round there and shoving a cactus up his japs eye, see how he likes it the wanker. Please don't waste another day on this cocklodger.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 09/09/2013 17:25

Don't ask him to leave. Put his shit in bin bags out on the pavement and change the locks.

YoniTime · 09/09/2013 17:31

^Yes.

valiumredhead · 09/09/2013 17:32

Yy! Just out his stuff out and keep the door locked.

AnyFucker · 09/09/2013 17:37

Grin @ cactus up Jap's eye

Lovingfreedom · 09/09/2013 17:56

I hope this thread helps you feel better OP but I hope it encourages you to move this guy out ASAP more. Don't put up with this any more. Bad man. Loser. Get rid!!!!! No more excuses for him.

internationallove985 · 09/09/2013 19:12

For someone to make fun of you over such a sensitive personal matter is not normal and down right insensitive. If you don't like him touching you there then he should respect that. x

LoisPuddingLane · 09/09/2013 19:36

he will insist I must be in the mood because I'm 'all wet'.

Despite the fact that you have explained this to him? He's an utter fuckwit.

he does this horrible thing where he rubs my clitoris and if I don't get wet or orgasm he moves his finger down as if he's going to put it inside me, but instead he's too far up, so just below my clit and tries to force it in

And a cunt to boot.

What EXACTLY is attractive about him?

Vivacia · 09/09/2013 20:20

OP, you are getting UTIs because he is sticking his dirty great fingers into your urethra

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit this, but I thought the urethra was so small, that this just wouldn't be possible.

valiumredhead · 09/09/2013 20:22

He's rubbing germs into it not actually putting his fingers into the urethra.

Schmoozer · 09/09/2013 20:33

I am DISGUSTED by the sound of this heathen.

What on earth are u doing with this filth ???!

Workwhatwork · 09/09/2013 20:36

He's not actually putting his finger in but pushing the end of his finger against it trying to force it when if course it isnt going in just painful and it doesn't feel nice and i did wonder if that was causing the utis. Can't post much as on my phone but I have spoken to him about all this tonight and he's admitted he acted like a dick. Not saying I'm staying with him and I've asked him to take his things but he does seem to have taken in what I've said.

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LoisPuddingLane · 09/09/2013 20:39

Might help to show him this.

NOT SAFE FOR WORK

www.vulvalpainsociety.org/vps/images/vps_images/selfexam.jpg

thequeenoftarts · 09/09/2013 21:45

shove ur fingers up his arse hard and say whats wrong don't u like it? why not sure every other man I know likes it, why are you so tight, your not normal, try digging around in there without lube and hear him scream the rotten abusive bastard.............

SolidGoldBrass · 09/09/2013 22:26

Once you have reclaimed any belongings of yours at his house, and boxed up any of his stuff that's at yours, you can text him to tell him he's dumped and refuse to have any contact with him ever again. Change the locks on your house and block his number from your phone. if he turns u0p on the doorstep and makes a racket, call the police and they will arrest him.
Honestly, it's as easy as 'You're dumped. Fuck off.'

bestsonever · 10/09/2013 00:29

Sounds like someone does not know what he's doing or does not even care whether he's been getting it wrong all these years. Really, his technique is grim and his attitude stinks. Does he not know that sex is about thrilling the other person by providing what they actually want - not what he thinks they should get? He sounds pretty much just crap in bed.
Move on, there is so much better out there who will take the time to learn and understand what makes an individual tick. That should be part of the fun, we are all different, so using the same repertoire in a one fits all way is basically cack.
However, his inabilities will not be as obvious during a quick fling, which could be why he does that behind your back - can please himself without giving a stuff about a one-nighter. He's just lazy and useless in the sack and you have found him out by sticking with him long enough - don't ever think they are all like this, there is better out there.

Shapechanger · 10/09/2013 08:41

There are lots of appalling men described on MN by women in abusive relationships.

This guy is one of the worst.

Forget the sex issue in terms of negotiating about it, trying to improve it. It's not worth bothering with - he's absolutely useless in bed (and abusive to boot) and that won't change. Even if it did and he suddenly became an awesome lover (won't happen because he is insensitive and disprespectful) he has loads of other faults.

I wouldn't give house room to some animal that picked his arse in the bath in front of me. He sounds disgusting, how can you let him NEAR you? OP you have the worst 'partner' in the world.

Throw him out. Give me your address and I will drive round and remove all his stuff from your home and take it to the dump.

Like some other previous posters I have rarely felt as strongy about a thread. This guy is completely without merit. FGS get rid!!

Vivacia · 10/09/2013 08:48

(What is bum-picking? I mean, what is there to pick?

GrandstandingBlueTit · 10/09/2013 09:07

God, this makes me want to just cry.

The idea, the very notion, that one day my DD might be involved with a man half as bad as this just breaks my heart.

OP, where are your Mum and Dad and friends in all this? Do they loathe every fibre of his being, and try to encourage you to leave him? What is their stance?

Lweji · 10/09/2013 11:00

Once you have reclaimed any belongings of yours at his house, and boxed up any of his stuff that's at yours, you can text him to tell him he's dumped and refuse to have any contact with him ever again. Change the locks on your house and block his number from your phone. if he turns up on the doorstep and makes a racket, call the police and they will arrest him.
Honestly, it's as easy as 'You're dumped. Fuck off.'

This.

Don't even bother about your stuff at his, unless they are of particular sentimental value or very expensive.

mrsbaileys · 10/09/2013 12:05

You sound lovely- he sounds like a fucking vile pig. It actually made me feel sick reading your posts. I suffer from recurrent utis so I totally sympathise. Find yourself a nice normal man who is gentle with your vulva and your heart and who doesn't pick at his arse. They are out there, I swear.

LoisPuddingLane · 10/09/2013 18:46

I don't understand this poking his finger lark. If a bloke did that just once to me, he wouldn't do it again. How can you just stand it, year after year?