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Is this normal or insensitive. Sex?

367 replies

Workwhatwork · 09/09/2013 09:43

I'm having a really shitty time right now with various things that are going on so I'm feeling quite low anyway.

Last night I was in bed with my boyfriend and I started trying it on with him. I was sort of cuddled up to his back and I started stroking his hair and back and kissing his back a bit, then touching him down there. I was running my hands up and down and then when I wernt to touch him down there again he blocked me with his arm so I took that to mean he didn't want sex and turn over to go to sleep.

He turned to me and said I was teasing him and started touching me down there. I wanted to have sex but I couldn't get wet and him touching me was hurting.

The thing is and I don't know whether it's just me, sorry for tmi, but I seem to be able to get wet more at certain times of the months, so just after my period I can't always get wet but just before I do. Sometimes my boyfriend hurts me when touching me, if he's trying to put his finger in me he will often miss by an inch or so and try to force it into the completely wrong place, he also uses spit as lube even though we have proper lube and I don't like it. Because of all this I think I've got quite jumpy especially when I'm not wet because I'm expecting for him to hurt me.

After a while of me not getting wet he started to go in a mood saying I was teasing him and obviously didn't want it as I'm not wet. I try to explain that just because I can't get wet doesn't mean I don't want to, and that sometimes it isn't just a case of sticking his hand down there for a fiddle and expecting me to have multiple orgasms, sometimes it is but sometimes I need a bit more foreplay.

It escalated into a row and he started doing over the top impressions of me jumping and saying "ooo, ooo, ahh, ahh" like a monkey as though that's what I was doing. I was a bit jumpy but it's because it was hurting and I was expecting him to try to shove his finger in where I have a wee like he often does. But apparently this is all my fault as he isn't doing anything different.

The other massve thing is, in the past, (we have been together 5 years), I have found out he has gone behind my back.

I've found out he's been on dating sites talking to other women. He says that this was when we had split up so almost doesn't matter. We were both on Facebook and he was chatting and flirting with women from chatrooms and stuff on there. He had a few younger women on there and when I asked who they were he said that they were girls from school who were a few years below him. He sort of joked that they would never look twice at him as they're too good looking (how's that supposed to make me feel) and that he'd only added them to make him look good. I also found out he had fake email addresses to use on dating sites. This was an ongoing thing over about 2 years and there were at least 10 different women I found him chatting and flirting with all from chatrooms or dating sites. I even caught him chatting with one the night after his grans funeral.

These are the things I found out, I of course don't know what else may have happened. But that I'm aware of nothing has happened since, he's no longer on Facebook and neither am I and he no longer has a computer or laptop aside from the one we share.

But last weekend I was looking through the photos on his phone. I never look at his phone so goes to show, but I was looking for some old photos of a concert we went to. And I came across a photo of a pair of boobs. No face just a top pulled up flashing the boobs, the photo was in downloads so I can only thing it was a picture message he'd been sent.

Of course I felt sick, asked him who it was. The story he gave was that he couldn't even remember her name, it was some woman from a dating site years ago and he didn't even realise it was still in the phone. But he tried to make out it wasn't a picture message but had been synced from his old laptop.

I told him to get out, it was over. But he wouldn't go, he seems to think that because it was all part of the things he was up to in the past and I'm supposed to have forgiven him, that I should just forget about it now.

But of course I can't, I don't trust him at all.

Then we went to a family party at the weekend. There was another woman on our table, a family friend. I started to feel as though he was making a particular point to speak to her. He rarely strikes up conversation with anyone and usually sits messing around with his phone but he kept making jokes to her, telling me to look at her phone case isn't it nice. Then I remember that she sent him a Christmas card last year and my name wasn't on it even though everyone elses were sent as couples.

This is how I've ended up as a result of what he's done in the past. Even if nothing is going on I feel as though he tries to get attention from young women to get an ego boost.

Sorry it's so long I just don't know what to think anymore.

OP posts:
peggyundercrackers · 09/09/2013 12:10

it doesnt sound like your DP is interested in what you want at all - he just wants his oats at your expense. stabby fingers - doesnt sound very nice and certainly wouldnt get me in the mood for anything. how can he mistake your pee hole for the right place? surely he knows where his fingers should go? he sounds an incosiderate arsehole - i know where i would be telling him to stick his stabby fingers.

HouseAtreides · 09/09/2013 12:18

He is a selfish dickhead. Do you really want another year, month, even week of this shit relationship? Being single IS better than a shit relationship and having no sex IS better than having shit, painful, tense sex with an insensitive boor who is convinced he is a sex god.
LEAVE and think of all the kind, funny, considerate men out there who you are currently not meeting!

HouseAtreides · 09/09/2013 12:19

Not to suggest immediately going on the hunt for a new man; being single after getting out of this relationship will no doubt be very relaxing!

LoisPuddingLane · 09/09/2013 12:22

It is actually possible that he thinks your pee hole and fanjo are the same. I knew a woman who thought they were the same...

Mabelface · 09/09/2013 12:23

He is not a nice man and your actions will speak louder than words. If you tell him to leave, he won't believe you. if you pack your things and go, then it's done. Don't stay with a man who assaults you during sex and who cheats on you.

ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm · 09/09/2013 12:29

This is just not an nice man,Work. Simple as that. There are nice men out there, and you deserve better.

Does he make you happy, at all ? Sad

frustratedashell · 09/09/2013 12:34

I can't believe you're putting up with this O P. You don't have to take this treatment. Leave him, just get away from him. He has no respect for you. Please leave. Take care sweetheart

Lovingfreedom · 09/09/2013 12:53

Not normal. Worse than insensitive. Your bf is abusive. He's treating you really badly and you don't have to put up with that. Make a plan to leave him. You don't need his permission. He doesn't have to agree.

LoisPuddingLane · 09/09/2013 12:57

Is the penny dropping yet? I hope so.

Scarletohello · 09/09/2013 12:58

I cannot think of a single reason why you are with this man. He doesn't respect you at all. I would never normally say this but yes, LTB. And have a happy life!

Vivacia · 09/09/2013 13:00

He doesn't have to believe you when you say it's over. It's over when you say it's over.

What are your living arrangements? I.e. who owns what?

Stropzilla · 09/09/2013 13:06

Wow he pretty much disregards you doesn't he? You say you want sex he says you don't. You say youre wet not aroused he says you are (does that mean he's pushed things onto you? ) and you say it's over he says it's not. Does he bring anything positive to your life? Get out while you still can do so easily.

ParvatiTheWitch · 09/09/2013 13:07

OP, you are getting UTIs because he is sticking his dirty great fingers into your urethra Sad. Get him to stop, get him to leave. This isn't right.

SelectAUserName · 09/09/2013 13:14

This isn't about whether he does or doesn't get you wet. This is about a man who doesn't listen to what you are telling him, who isn't prepared to change his approach when you ask him not to hurt you, and who minimises and expects you to put up with his unacceptable behaviour with other women.

In short, this is about a wanker.

You're too good for him OP. Have my very first LTB.

LoisPuddingLane · 09/09/2013 13:22

If you still aren't sure about this, imagine you had an adult daughter and she told you what you've told us. What would you say to her?

YoniBottsBumgina · 09/09/2013 13:31

Physical arousal is totally separate from mental arousal - one does not imply the other! In fact it is the same for men, it's just that the two are more closely related for them.

He is being a dick. You're probably struggling to become physically aroused because you are expecting pain and even ridicule from him :( it's difficult to get physically aroused (wet) when you don't feel safe in a situation.

He sounds all kinds of screwed up and you would be better off without him!

Workwhatwork · 09/09/2013 13:47

So many helpful posts and that hit home.

katythecleaninglady I agree it's not about good or bad sex. And yes it is mid month mucus that he takes as wetness. And sometimes I am properly wetter mid month. But he can't seem to comprehend that I don't think with my fanjo.

He does know that I don't wee out of it and vise versa, and I've no idea why he puts his finger there as I have told him not to, guided him, he blames it on me being dry, but to be honest he does it even when I'm not it probably just doesn't hurt as much.

Wow he pretty much disregards you doesn't he? You say you want sex he says you don't. You say youre wet not aroused he says you are (does that mean he's pushed things onto you? ) and you say it's over he says it's not. Does he bring anything positive to your life? Get out while you still can do so easily

Yes he probably does, and yes if I'm wet, mucus wet he will take this as a cue, I have tried to explain my cycle but he doesn't get it. I'm not saying he's ever, ever forced me into sex at all. But it does wind me up that he doesn't listen to what I'm saying and takes my wetness/dryness and his only cue. I know obviously it's one element but he can be quite adamant that I MUST be horny because I'm 'wet'.

And I've explained about monthly cycles, tampons, even uti's and everyone here has clarified for me that what I thought about my body is correct and what I am telling him just doesn't sink in.

Does he make you happy, at all ?

He makes me happy at times but makes me miserable more.

It wouldn't be compliacted to split as we both have our own place. He stays with me but has his own place to go back to.

OP posts:
LoisPuddingLane · 09/09/2013 13:52

He's either very stupid (if you've explained it all) or wilfully ignoring what you say because he doesn't actually care. When you are dry, why in heaven's name does he keep jabbing away at you? Surely he realises that's painful. This "jabbiness" is a very porny thing.

LoisPuddingLane · 09/09/2013 13:53

he can be quite adamant that I MUST be horny because I'm 'wet'.

If anyone said that to me they could fuck the fuck off to wank in a bedsit by themselves.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 09/09/2013 13:57

You have no children, mortgage, or lease together?

Break up this very day. Get your cds orWink whatever shit may be at his, go home, and get on with your life. Start another thread on getting over the breakup. But don't waste one more second of your precious, finite life explaining anatomy to him.

I'm almost positive he's hurting you on purpose. His other behaviour makes it clear that he's an asshole. He will not change.

I once dated a man who did sort of similar shit. He would rub my shoulders in a painful way and yell that I was wrong to flinch. He would also poke me in the ribs when hugging me and yell "I am not hurting you!" when I jumped.

That was just the tip of the iceberg for this crazy, angry man. He had plenty of other issues, just like yours does.

Trust me: this relationship will never, ever be good.

YoniTime · 09/09/2013 13:57

You deserve much more than someone who only makes you happy at times, makes you miserable (!) more, don't seem to care about you and stabs you in the urethrae(ughh).
So it's easy for you to split up, that's great. Is something holding you back or are you thinking of doing it now?

AnyFucker · 09/09/2013 14:03

This guy is shit in bed and thinks he is some sort of Romeo with younger women

Tell him it's over

KatyTheCleaningLady · 09/09/2013 14:08

The Wink in my post was a phone typo!

GettingStrong · 09/09/2013 14:08

Just echoing pp that the wetness doesn't necessarily mean you 'must be horny'.

It's a physical reaction that can be very separate to how you feel.

People can become wet, and even reach orgasm, when raped. Not that I am implying you have been, I am just pointing out how the physical reaction doesn't necessarily mean you mentally want sex.

anon2013 · 09/09/2013 14:10

You've been together 5 years yet he still has his own place?. An alarm went off in my head when I read that. I would suggest some time apart and some time for yourself and what you want from the relationship and for yourself.

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