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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Travelling Far And Wide, With Sobriety In Mind.

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Mouseface · 04/09/2013 15:02

Welcome to the Bus one and all! I'm Mouse, one of the Brave Babes :)

We have a new line that we're taking with us on every journey, thanks to one of our wonderful Babes, Curry -

Alcohol Fosters Inertia.

So when you're drinking excessively, nothing changes, or improves, the sharp edges of our lives just becomes that little bit less in focus, blurred and all you feel is numb. Then like shit (emotionally, as well as physically) if you're honest! Who wants that?

You are only ever better/pacified/happy whilst the alcohol is in your system. And that doesn't last........... it's not a cure, it's a quick fix. A sticking plaster.

So, if you think you're drinking too much, and want some friendly advice, or just to come and have a chat, get to know others who are just like you, who won't judge or criticise you, then hop on board! :)

We're a really mixed bunch and all at different stages of our journey to find sobriety or certainly drinking in a more controlled, less dangerous way.

And, if you'd like to see where we've been so far, have a look at the links below :)

LAST THREAD

THE STARTING POINT AND WHY WE'RE ALL HERE

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Mouseface · 06/09/2013 11:15

Ah, the driving's not my department I'm afraid! That's down to Silver Grin

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aliasjoey · 06/09/2013 11:30

ME! You missed me!

Sorry, it's my own fault for not being around so much lately. I'm going to keep trying to check in as it reallydoes help fight the battles.

Lately it's been pretty good. I have basically stopped drinking except when I'm at home, on my own, where I can control the situation.

We were at a big party the other week, loads of family and I was actually in 2 minds about whether to drink or not, but then decided it was easier not to. And then I was able to drive home, which I loved because it meant I was in control of when we left.



The exception to the 'only at home' rule is a friends we visit about every 2 months. The last time we went (weekend) the first night I didn't drink at all; the second night I waited till after eating.

The downside to all of this is I still think about drinking a lot, even if I only drink once a week. Sometimes I consider stopping completely, and it feels like I'm taking baby steps in that direction.

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aliasjoey · 06/09/2013 11:34

A lovely story: many years ago DD went to a birthday party for a school friend. The hosts laid on wine and beer for the adults, and I had several glasses. I wasn't drunk (although looking back, don't we all persuade ourselves we didn't act drunk? Blush ) but I couldn't drive home, and had to beg another parent for a lift.

Fast forward to DDs prom, same family hosted it, again alcohol laid on for the grown-ups. I didn't touch a drop, and all I could think was it was THIS garden 6 years ago, THIS house, I acted like an idiot - no wonder all the other school mums never talked to me.

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Anneisnotmyname · 06/09/2013 12:04

joey I find that thinking about drinking still takes up alot of headspace, more than I would think is 'normal'. I'm counting my af days, my units, and I suspect that to not drink at all would be simpler. Something is holding me back though....

Mouse dh didn't drink last night, he's not really a daily drinker or a heavy drinker but he doesn't seem to like that I've cut right down. Partly it's my fault in that I'm going to bed earlier, reading, not staying up watching tv with him (with drink in hand) so he feels ignored. Obviously I could stay up with him (without a drink) but in all honesty I find that boring; sober I find him really irritating and I don't know what to do about it.

(I don't want anyone to read this and think not drinking spoils your relationship. The problems have been there from day one, and getting worse, I'm just not numbing myself with alcohol so it's bringing them into sharper focus.)

Oh well, Happy Friday everyone :)

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Mouseface · 06/09/2013 13:19

Joey! - Blush Sorry lovely, I will have missed many more too! Mum for one!

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guggenheim · 06/09/2013 13:26

'Lo there all.

bobbly -good,good.

joey nice to see you again.

green how are your feet? Can I also just ask if your 4yr old is the loudest creature on the entire planet? That goes for all crazy bus kids- or is it just mine who is loud and mad? Seeesh... bloody good job he's gorgeous or it would be up the chimney with him. baby you have a preschooler / toddler- what's the noise level like?

mouse i know what you mean about carrying your child, I'm off to annoy my crazy boy by hugging him while he's busy playing watching TV as soon as I've posted.

lonnika Are you a teacher? TA? Don't answer that but in my experience the crap hurled at the start of term, i.e.) 9 gazzillion new initiatives you should have done yesterday, can often be filed and ignored for a bit. I might be way off the mark there but I just wondered.

Hi there tango an dannie

Big wave to all x

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Mouseface · 06/09/2013 13:35

Annie - DH used to be a little bit like that at first..... I think he missed me, the company in the room, especially when we were drinking buddies, staying up til all hours drinking, watching TV together or kicking each other's asses at cards, scrabble (not a euphemism!! Grin) or talking for ages about life, love and laundry.

It's fine now, I often go to bed before him, he'll watch recorded tv and I'll fall asleep with my book in my hand and my reading glasses on my head squewiff! Grin

I'm sorry to hear that things aren't great anyway with you and DH Sad. That's the thing with AF life, it's sharp, focused and very, very real.

xxx

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Mouseface · 06/09/2013 13:42

Who's dannie? Wink

Guggs - I love hugging Nemo, I've held him all of his life, he didn't walk for almost 2 years and when he did, it took a lot out of him. I miss him being so close to me so when he does want picking up, and also needs picking up, I'm going to!

Right, last two rooms to clean. It's taken me an hour to do each room because I just can't do it. I just hurt too much but I can't bear a dirty/messy house and it's been months since the house was deep cleaned.

I'll be suffering later. Hot bath and bed.....

Be back later xxx

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ThisIsMyTime · 06/09/2013 14:57

Ok day three goin ok feeling tearfull all the time, thinking about how many things ive missed with ds as always too hungover resulting in me being to anxious to leave the house, yesterday on day 2 i took him swinming and felt sad id not done more with him but as he is not three yet im hoping he wont rememer how shit ive been. on a more positive note I've been to the shop and bought some special treatment for my hair as far beond swashy :( so I aim to do that it's my wedding anniversary tomorrow . It's hard to believe what alcohol makes us become I used to be always happy smiling fun to be with and now I'm an anxious lump kind of feel sorry for dh as I wasn't like this if I was him I'd send me back false advertising ! Sorry for self pity post xx

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ThisIsMyTime · 06/09/2013 14:58

Ps really sorry not to name check this bus moves so fast x

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babyjane1 · 06/09/2013 15:01

Hi babes, had a humongous fight with dh last night and all my feel good factor has gone. He is a good man but can be awfully selfish. He likes weekends away with the boys and has set a few up without any discussion. The details don't matter but what does matter is my mood has dropped dramatically, I feel in dangerous territory and would normally be stomping toward the shop by now. He is very stubborn and when riled very cutting with his words. I'm very sensitive, taking every word to heart..I often wonder if we are right for each other deep down!! Yesterday I was so pleased with myself and today I have stuffed my face with crap and can feel the wine witch following my every move.. Why is life so feckin hard??? Sorry me me me xxx

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ThisIsMyTime · 06/09/2013 15:13

Baby don't do it no argument is worth all the self hate you will have tomorrow I'm struggling every dAy but ur success is inspirational . But if you do end up drinking we will all be here to help get u on track again xx

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babyjane1 · 06/09/2013 15:48

Thanks thisis I won't drink, I know I won't but facing up to the crap stuff without it will be tough... Xxx

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Mouseface · 06/09/2013 16:47

ThisIs - that's exactly how a lot of the babes fell/felt once they realised just how many months, days, hours and minute that they'd wasted being pissed, hungover or both. Sad

I was utterly appalled with myself when I looked back at how much time I had wasted not being the mother that my children deserve and how much I'd rejected or ignored everything other than alcohol. I refused to drive so I could drink, I would be the first and last at the bar, always another open bottle in the kitchen for me whilst friends sat in the other room.................Every Time.

Don't worry about that now, you can't change why has been done, change the things you able to and make those things the most important in your life, now. You can lie there beating yourself up in the small dark hours of the morning, but why?

Plan things that you can do with your DS NOW! And yes, I should imagine that at three he is more likely to remember the better things in his life, like crisps and jam and toys and helping mummy with little jobs..... his love for you is unconditional so use that guilt and turn it into a promise to you and your DS that you are going to change one small thing, one day at a time :) xx

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Mouseface · 06/09/2013 16:58


DO NOT let your DH undo all of your hard work, as easy it is for me to say, I'd be pissed off at that too. My DH is the same at times, he'll say, I've spoken to X and there is a so and so happening, is it okay if I go, after already agreeing with the person that he'll be there.

I don;t need to give him permission and Lord knows he needs a break and his friends are scattered far and wide, so I actually love it when he has things on, it means I get to be with my boy and DD. Get to do what I want too :)

It sounds as though your DH is more severe in his deliverance of such information? And no discussion is out of order of you are going to be left looking after everything for the weekend, again.

I'm guessing that if you asked him not to go or come back a bit earlier, he'd refuse and say you were smothering him, holding him back, had a problem with it? Sound familiar?

It's a tough one but if you can ignore him and just make some plans for yourselves whilst he's not there, maybe you'll feel better? Meet up with others with DCs maybe? It sounds to me like he knows how to push your buttons and that you won't say anything for fear of confrontation which pretty childish and damp sly of him in my book......

Don't let the WW get her claws into you - HE has made you feel like this... HE has been selfish and ignored your feelings, turn the fact that you are super pissed off at him to fight that WINE WITCH BITCH and send her packing. YOU ARE WORTH MORE!! Please, don't get pissed, don't get sucked into her false promises of making you feel better, you know that you'll hate yourself tomorrow.....

I'm sorry DH is being so unkind and cruel to you xxx
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ThisIsMyTime · 06/09/2013 16:59

Thanks mouse I intend to do that totally I'm so spurred on now x

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Mouseface · 06/09/2013 17:35

That's our girl!! Kick ass BRAVE BABE Grin

I know it's hard though, especially if you wanted to do things together. Even one thing...

I have to say that I the way my DH 'asks permission' to go after arranging the golf day or whatever makes me rofl! I'd love to see his face if I said, 'erm, nope, I'm off to the spa so you're on DC duty - you'll have to cancel'!! Grin

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Fairenuff · 06/09/2013 18:00

The downside to all of this is I still think about drinking a lot, even if I only drink once a week. Sometimes I consider stopping completely, and it feels like I'm taking baby steps in that direction

Joey my 'wine o'clock' used to be anytime from 4pm onwards. On my way home from work I used to think, mmm, wine...

I drive past a petrol station and often used to stop and buy a bottle. When I started cutting back, I decided to have a strong, hot coffee when I got home instead of wine. One day, driving past the petrol station, I saw the giant coffee cup outside and thought to myself, mmm, coffee...

Then I thought wtf Shock. Did I just think about coffee?!! That's when I really knew my habits were changing.

Now you are starting to think about giving up completely. Just mulling over the idea. Something that you probably wouldn't have even considered a year ago?

Well done on a sober prom Smile

in my experience the crap hurled at the start of term, i.e.) 9 gazzillion new initiatives you should have done yesterday, can often be filed and ignored for a bit

Ha, guggs, that is so true. We are still working on 'settling in'.

Mouse great posts, as usual, and wise words you sage old bird Grin

I'm wondering if everyone has eaten yet? If the ww is planning on calling on you this evening, she will do it whilst you're hungry, so get some grub in you pronto babes.

I'm having jacket potato with tuna and salad, so yah boo sucks to all you low carbers Grin

Mind you, mega jealous that you can have cream Envy

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dementedma · 06/09/2013 19:00

mouse I'm going to do low carb boot camp on biwis thread too. I have been sort of low carving the last two weeks to see if it suits me and it does so I am taking the plunge on Monday.
this is you are doing brilliantly. Really, you are.
All other babes, repeat after me " I am awesome. I am loved. I am worth more".
Right, off ferry dd2 to a 21st party then I am done for the night.
Tomorrow take her stuff to uni and then on Sunday take her as well. That's my weekend sorted

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jango36 · 06/09/2013 19:04

Hi babes :))
Checking in with you all on day 3.
Feeling fairly okay today, which is good enough for me.
Can so relate to all the posts about dp s and drinking - how you see them when your not drinking. Even worse when they still are!
When I got together with my nsdp drinking was the thing we did together- we where drinking buddies really and it was fun while it lasted most of the time. Not any more though.
thisis sorry your feeling shit but well done on day 3. :))
Hi mouse you sound like youve had a tough day cleaning. Good on you. Wish I was tidier! Im getting better but still hate it. It feels like im wasting time doing it. Abit like drinking!!
Hi to joey, tango faire and all you other babes. Im off to have a hot bath then jump on exercise bike! doing that the wrong way round me thinks.
Will check in later xx

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Fairenuff · 06/09/2013 19:30

I'm not a big fan of cleaning but it is a good way to avoid drinking in the evening. Wine is not so appealing when held by bleach-smelling marigolds Grin

Once I get going, I don't mind cleaning really, it's just that there are several other things I'd rather be doing with my time.

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Mouseface · 06/09/2013 19:49

Faire - I'll have you know I'm still under 40 thank you very muchly :)

You are so right about noticing 'different' visual triggers. And the fact that you've just asked who has eaten yet or not, another one of the many triggers we suffer from....

On the Bootcamp diet Ma is about to join me on, you can sort of snack on little things throughout the day and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that having 5 brazil nuts, when I'm getting naggy mid morning or mid afternoon and drinking 5 pints of water is helping me to remain so focused, so sharp and so much less grumpy.

Water really is key to helping your body do it's job. DH drinks so much tea he should be orange, but I nag him to drink water... he just doesn't. Yes I do have to get up for a wee in the night but I was doing that drinking. I am up with Nemo so it's not a biggy for me and not every night! Grin

Anyway - I can here the bath time fun upstairs in my shiny bathroom getting noisy so I best go see what's occurring!! Grin

Back in a mo, I guess I should feed DD as well! Grin

Ma - I can't wait for you and me to be diet Buddies, we'll have to try not to bore the poor Babes with our dieting chat though! Grin Are you looking forward to going Carb free/low full time? It really is easy and not as expensive as everyone thinks - Aldi is my choice for chicken breasts and meats - 6/7 med/large breasts for £6.99. Where else can you get grade a meat like that?

Pork steaks, mince, beef - matured for days.... I buy joints (of the meat kind Wink), roast them and then slice them ready to have when I want. I precook sausages, Aldi's cumberland butcher's choice are good as they are rather low in carbs, eggs, etc....

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lonnika · 06/09/2013 20:07

hi Guggs - you are correct :).

Thank crunchier it is Friday :)

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dementedma · 06/09/2013 20:28

I will need your help mouse as still not sure what I can and can't have despite reading thousands of posts on all the low carb/paleo threads. I thought nuts were banned during boot camp. But yes, I am actually looking forward to it. Already I have noticed a difference in bloating, sluggishness and less headaches.and its great to be on a diet where I don't feel hungry. Its just going to take a bit of planning for breakfasts if fruit is banned too. I'm going to give it a go. See you at the weigh in....

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ThisIsMyTime · 06/09/2013 20:30

Omg proud alert just been shop because I was on my way to swimming and thought I couldn't be arsed. I've just bought a new fizzy NON alcoholic drink to try wahoooo

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