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Lap dance at stag do

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worrybynature · 04/08/2013 10:16

I'm getting married a week today. Dp's stag was last night. He knows how I feel about strippers, and that I don't agree with it. He had a lap dance in a stretch hummer. I feel disgusted thinking about a naked woman grinding on his lap- I feel like he has been unfaithful. How do I get over this?

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HandbagCrazy · 04/08/2013 16:04

Hi OP. Just thought i would add something to this. My dh had never had a stripper before he went on his stag weekend and to be honest we had never discussed it so he didnt really know my opinion on them. I always thought it was a bit skanky but kind of harmless. Until he rang and told me his mates had got him one. Of course he said he tried not to look and didnt enjoy it. How upset I felt took me by surprise. He had never made me feel so ugly, low and embarrassed. Like you, I dont like my body and afterwards kept thinking if he compares me to the stripper, i must look terrible. BUT, we talked through it once he was home and had been sober for 24 hours. His pov was that as he didnt arrange it, pay for it or touch her he didnt think he had done anything terrible, and thought i wouldnt mind. However, he understood why i was upset and wanted to make me feel better. And it is for that reason that the wedding went ahead.

Unfortunately, on a 'boys night out,' men go along with whats happening, and the best man arranged this without your dps knowledge. The important thing now is how understanding he is towards you. He should be upset that you're upset and he should be trying to establish what you need so he can give it to you.

I hope he comes through for you OP xx

Vivacia · 04/08/2013 16:09

"Unfortunately, on a 'boys night out,' men go along with whats happening"

Some men go along.

babyboomersrock · 04/08/2013 16:09

Dp says he wouldn't have done it if he knew this would hurt me so much, but he also says he was curious, as hasn't had a stripper before

Sheesh, the poor diddums. You'd think it was some fancy cocktail he'd not previously encountered - not an actual human being displaying her genitals for a few quid.

OP, please give yourself time - on your own - to think about what's happened. Your DP is not allowing you headspace.

Lots of women are confident about their bodies - but they're also confident about what they expect of a partner. Please don't embark on marriage feeling so insecure or you'll end up accepting anything.

Please believe that you deserve to be treated with love and respect, always.

WorrySighWorrySigh · 04/08/2013 16:11

It does sound like he doesnt yet get how stupid he has been. I am guessing that there is still some self-justification going on.

Your reaction has held up a deeply unflattering mirror to your DP and I think he is struggling with this image of himself.

You dont have to 'get over it' for the sake of the wedding. If the time isnt now right you can delay the wedding. It doesnt have to end the relationship at all. A friend of mine delayed his wedding because the time wasnt right - he will be celebrating his silver wedding anniversary soon.

myroomisatip · 04/08/2013 16:11

I feel so sorry for you.

He has been massively disrespectful and you are entitled to react the way you have. Only you know if you can move forward with him now.

I agree with crazyspaniel's post and IMO if he stays friends with his BM after this I suspect there will be more incidents in the future.

I wish you courage in whatever you decide to do.

clam · 04/08/2013 16:21

But he did know it would hurt you. You told him it was a no-no for you. Sounds to me like he's scrabbling around to say whatever he thinks you want to hear.
"Hasn't had a stripper before?" Hmm What sort of circles does he move in, that he thinks it's on some sort of bucket-list of desirable things a man has to do? This is a real-life woman, he's been ogling (or worse)> Someone's dd, dsis, possibly dmum. Is he normally mispgynistic?

LynetteScavo · 04/08/2013 16:22

worrybynature, I'm just wondering did the best man know how you feel about strippers? Did you lay down what was/wasn't acceptable with him before the stag do?

The best man has definitely gone out of his way to upset you, and I bet he's doing a good job of convincing your DP that he's right, and you are being hysterical.

worrybynature · 04/08/2013 16:26

Yes the best man knew, we had a heated conversation over a year ago where I said it was a deal breaker

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Angelfootprints · 04/08/2013 16:27

Is the best man married himself?

myroomisatip · 04/08/2013 16:33

worrybynature I would be beyond livid in view of your 'heated conversation' with the BM Angry

If (and for me it would be a BIG IF!) I could forgive this it would most definitely be an 'either him or me' choice for my DP! Actually, I could not forgive and I would never trust him again. :(

clam · 04/08/2013 16:33

Have you suggested to your OH that he find another best man? If so, what was his response?

clam · 04/08/2013 16:35

You see, in my opinion, the bestman has to be a friend of the marriage, not just the groom. And if he really has gone out of his way to provide something that he knew full well was going to upset you and rock your relationship, then he has no business standing up at your wedding supporting either of you.

NotConnie · 04/08/2013 16:36

I can't help but see the irony of using the term BM here. I understand what it means in this context, but on some health forums I visit it means something entirely different. Although rather similar in this case. Grin

OP I've read all of your thread now. I feel terribly sorry for you too. This last week before your wedding should be one of excitement and joy for both of you. And now it's tarnished.

Ezio · 04/08/2013 16:40

Is the best man actually jealous, like dont wanna lose his mate or some other weird bullshit like that, sees Worry as a threat.

HaveIGotPoosForYou · 04/08/2013 16:46

I know many would say the best man has a right to be there but it's your wedding too. If he's done something really nasty then he deserves to not go to the wedding. He was being deliberately hurtful, childish and immoral he sounds like a complete asswipe.

My friend phoned me up at 12am about 7 years ago when he was on his stag do. His wife had my number and he asked if she phoned up and asked he did not go to a stripper, which he did. I felt very uncomfortable with him expecting me to lie. So when she phoned I didn't answer and when he spoke to me the next time when not drunk I said for him to be honest to her, or we just simply wouldn't talk so he ended up being honest. It was terrible for him to put me in that situation.

I think my problem with this is that if you want to see other woman's lady bits then you should be single. Isn't the point of getting married wanting to just be with one person for the rest of your life? If you don't want that then have friends with benefits or be a free agent, it's not rocket science is it?

My DP's Dad tried to get him a stripper at his 18th but he was pretty disgusted by it, to be honest. I wasn't dating him at the time and he was still a virgin but still classed that as not nice so it doesn't always mean you have to be older and experienced to respect women in this way, you just have to be decent.

I know it would be my insecurity that would bother me the most about him doing that, as well as of course him wanting to see someone else as obviously that doesn't mean he wants to be with just me or at least not want to just see just me in that way. But at the end of the day though I would be upset that his best man was such a callous and inconsiderate twat. I wouldn't be too happy with having someone like that as a best man. I'd respect if my maid of honour did something distasteful too, so I wouldn't make one rule for me and one for him. I know he wouldn't do this though as he respects me, respects women, doesn't see what the big deal is and knows that although I am happy within myself in general, I still wouldn't feel comfortable with it.

I can't see why you'd want to use someone like that anyway. It is using someone for your satisfaction and not in the way you use a service like a sauna or even a human related service like a sports massage. This is invading someone else's privacy.

I can understand that you are really upset OP. My advice for what it is worth is to see how he behaves in regards to this in the next few days. If he seems remorseful and admits he did mess up, then I'd consider forgiving him but of course, not forgetting.

However if he says you are overreacting explain to him in your own words why you really aren't, so he can see it from his point of view. If he is still being callous and/or wont budge on the best man then I'd put the wedding back. Not cancel it, because I'm sure you can work through it, but at the moment it wouldn't be a happy time to get married and you want to get married at a time you are both going to be happy.

I hope things improve for you and he admits he was disrespectful and a bit of an idiot.

I hope you do have a lovely wedding. I am sure he is a lovely man and if he hasn't done anything like this before it seems nonsensical to break up with him for just this reason but at the end of the day you know what you are and are not willing to tolerate.

HaveIGotPoosForYou · 04/08/2013 16:49

Oh and out of curiosity were you his first/only proper relationship? This is a possibility why he is so curious as he's only ever seen you intimately. Not that it makes it right of course, but it's a possibility.

waltermittymissus · 04/08/2013 16:51

Your update is very worrying OP.

He knew you'd be hurt/upset and did it anyway.

KnitFastDieWarm · 04/08/2013 16:51

I'm getting married next Saturday. My dp would no more have spent his stag do with a stripper than he would have spent it beating up bouncers or shouting racial abuse at strangers. Why? Because he is a decent person who respects people. Not all men are misogynists.

KnitFastDieWarm · 04/08/2013 16:53

Posted too soon - I'd be postponing the wedding. I wouldn't marry someone who had that kind of attitude a) to women and b) to me and my values

KareninsGirl · 04/08/2013 16:55

"Unfortunately, on a 'boys night out,' men go along with whats happening

Oh please. What utter clap-trap. So, men are incapable of saying 'no' then, are they? How patronising to men!

nkf · 04/08/2013 16:55

It's a shame the men who enjoy watching strippers can't get together with the women who don't mind if men watch strippers. They're such a perfect match. Can't you wear badges or something? It could say something like, "Lapdancers r us" and the rest of us would know who to avoid. I'm all for efficiency in these matters.

ahusband · 04/08/2013 17:03

This thread is interesting from a man's point of view.

When I've been to stag nights where strippers are involved I have politely refused to participate because I know my wife wouldn't want me to. Having said that, it was very hard to refuse at the time, the peer pressure was immense, not that this is any excuse.

BM sounds like a cock, and whilst you shouldn't blackmail him with a 'him or me' ultimatum, you should have a very frank chat with your fiancé

ahusband · 04/08/2013 17:05

Oh, and I assume you've never been to a hen night that involved strippers/nude butlers etc, because that would make you a hypocrite?

myroomisatip · 04/08/2013 17:14

You are right ahusband although I would not consider my ultimatum blackmail. I just know that I would be waiting for the next occasion where the BM would cause more trouble, having done it once and very successfully. That is why I concluded that I doubt I could forgive this and at the very least I would be postponing the wedding.

And as for your question, I have never been to any occasion that involved strippers, male or female, or any kind of nudity, out of choice.

worrybynature · 04/08/2013 17:14

No I haven't.

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