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Who's going to start dating thread No57?

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akaWisey · 22/06/2013 20:16

Or am I going to be 'one'

OP posts:
KinNora · 28/06/2013 17:44

He sounds like one of those people who sucks all the joy out of life Juliette. Mine spent years undermining me, making me feel stupid and unattractive, to the point where I found it impossible to understand when Spud looked at me like I was the most wonderful thing in the world.

JulietteMontague · 28/06/2013 17:48

Kin that is dreadful. That slow drip, drip of someone elses resentment and bile. It is indeed life draining.

OhWesternWind · 28/06/2013 17:57

There are too many people like that - I had one too. Always too hot/cold/tired/expensive/far/crowded/quiet/silly/boring. Jesus wept.

Never, ever again.

Seeing Alpha on Monday. Grin Grin. Said he will clear his diary to fit in with me/babysitters as seeing me is his number one priority. Quite right too.

Filth is a good imagination, willingness to give it a go, lack of inhibition and shyness, and sensuality in the true meaning of the word. I am much dirtier than I thought I was ... Hoping that Alpha has potential that way.

KinNora · 28/06/2013 18:12

Exactly Juliette it was erosive.

OWW I agree with every word of your post, your description of 'filthy' is perfect.

And hoo-bloody-rah for Alpha, seeing you as his number one priority, that's what it's meant to be like.

I've just offered to go and spend a weekend with Talent Show. Let's see if he puts his money where his mouth is.

lurkinglorna · 28/06/2013 18:29

whoop whoop OWW and KinNora and all the people getting action in this weekend! good luck for dates!

(still on the subs bench here, decided not to go out with meetup crowd this saturday, as i would rather put money into joining the mooncup club)

re: the sexy time...

1. can't do bad sex any more? i think younger i could do it "because he's such a relationship catch" Confused but now, if sex is rubbish just can't follow up, the interaction dies a death.

2. i think that in terms of "filthiness", filthiness in context is good! someone who i have a 1-1 good connection with, comfortable with and "respect" as a person and has decent social skills in person -welcome!

3. nothing worse than a guy who is "what do YOU want to do?" in bed. love it when a guy (not in a pushy way) shares suggestions and whatever he wants to do particularly if it's a bit Fifty Shades if you know what I mean eh eh? i think it gives me permission to relax and open up myself if the guy is open about what genuinely turns him on, bedroom time shouldn't be neurotic/self conscious time.

4. yeah Juliette I feel your pain! the WORST dates are with men who are just....angry and disillusioned - in their character? sure we all like a moan from time to time, but spending time with someone who is always like "nothing is ever good enough, or perfect enough" drains your soul!

conversely there are some chaps you can have an amazing time with on a low budget and just doing nothing. GEMS!

lurkinglorna · 28/06/2013 18:39

or should i go out on saturday and nurse a soda and lime all evening? Hmm controversial!

i have a nice summer dress and it seems a shame to keep it in!

Flipper924 · 28/06/2013 19:01

OWW, you've just described my ex to a t. My ex, by the way, who defriended me on fb recently, despite me having had nothing to do with him since I said hello nicely at the wedding in April. I'm really not bothered, just curious as to why.

Lorna, your point 3. Exactly. Please, please pleeeeease tell me what you like. Show me what you like. Don't just lie there and ask a question like it's a bloody interview!

Rule 3. The Sailor has cancelled, apparently has to work late, but no suggestion of rearranging. Meh, my top will still be clean for tomorrow's night out, which will include a man that my friend has been trying to set me up with for ages.

Friday night in on my own with pizza and beer and leftover cake.

Flipper924 · 28/06/2013 19:02

Anything back from Talent Show, Nora?

OhWesternWind · 28/06/2013 19:02

Lorna yes particularly to your number three! Give the dress an outing.

Hooray Nora you go girl! Lets hope he's not all mouth and no trousers.

Juliette how are you doing? Hope you're alright about tomorrow. And "flies" my arse.

OhWesternWind · 28/06/2013 19:10

What a pisser about the Sailor Flipper but more energy for tomorrow if you don't go out tonight! Have you met set-up man or is he going to be a surprise? And is tomorrow night actually the set-up?

Flipper924 · 28/06/2013 19:14

Nope, never met him, OWW. He's a friend of a friend of my friend, and she's mentioned him before, but it's never worked out that we'd be on the same night out before. She's insisted it's not a set up.

48, so pleased everything is going well for your mum, and for you with Mr R&R. It fair warms the cockles.

lurkinglorna · 28/06/2013 19:18

confirmed with meetup - i will have avoid "over friendly separated guy" and getting into rounds with anyone.

might be a good opportunity to "look outside" the group to meet guys out on a saturday night Smile

KinNora · 28/06/2013 19:25

A giant meh to your sailor Flipper, he doesn't know what he's missing, I'm intrigued about set-up bloke too, do tell.

Lorna I vote for you heading out on the razz with the meetup crowd tomorrow.

Sent the email to Talent ( told him that I was offering via email as I didn't want him to feel pressured to reply quickly or pressured to say 'yes') he replied about 10 minutes later, by text, said he'd really like it and would be happy to travel down here and 'sleep in a layby'.

It's all bullshit till it happens but he told me that I'm 'wonderful' earlier on, and I went a bit girly-hair-twiddly-bride-be-lovely for a moment or two. Bollocks.

JulietteMontague · 28/06/2013 19:25

Kin excellent. I like all this installing yourself and inviting men to your boudoir if they pass muster Grin.

OWW I'm good actually. Something shifted with me yesterday and now I'm looking forward to seeing him. I'm calm, back at the gym and off everything that's bad for me except cake. Off to pick him up from the airport tomorrow afternoon.

Lorna 'what do You want to do?' oh dear me. The thing is, you know if you tell them they won't be up for it.

Probably said this before on here but re Mr totally lacking in sensuality, this actually happened whilst I was trying to encourage him towards oral sex

Me: Kiss me slowly
Him: Where's that? Hmm Hmm Hmm

lurkinglorna · 28/06/2013 19:29

Grin Juliette

lurkinglorna · 28/06/2013 19:32

ha ha KinNora yeah e-mails for asking questions are great, then they reply without "putting people on the spot".

scrazy · 28/06/2013 19:33

Sad Sad Sad here, after all that went wrong last weekend LT wanted to keep on seeing each other but we've had a massive heart to heart and it's been mutually agreed to split. I cannot cope with things as they are and he still doesn't think he can give me what I want blah blah f--king blah. It's going round in circles all the time. I'm really upset but is it wrong that I'm going to meet someone who has been on the back burner very soon?

lurkinglorna · 28/06/2013 19:44

sorry to hear that scrazy, look after yourself. you gave the situation your full attention, had a proper go at seeing it through. total respect to you!

meeting whoever you like now is fine!

scrazy · 28/06/2013 19:49

Lurking, yes I did. You can only give so much and it had to be done, but gawd, I will miss him like crazy yet again!

I'm going for coffee with someone, we've only met a couple of times and it hasn't got anywhere but hopefully it will be a nice distraction.

OhWesternWind · 28/06/2013 19:52

Really sorry to hear that Scrazy, I know he was special. But better to recognise it's not going right and walk away rather than keep clinging on.

And you can meet whoever you want to! Just watch out for the rebound thing.

KinNora · 28/06/2013 19:52

Sorry Scrazy, I know how you feel about him and, no, it is absolutely not wrong in the slightest to meet Back-burner Man.

Lorna , yup, look how considerate I'm being, mwahahahahaha.

Juliette I like to imagine I'm a Mancunian Cleopatra - 'have him washed and brought to my tent'

Also, life is way too short for men who don't go down

Flipper924 · 28/06/2013 19:53

Not wrong at all, Scrazy. Sorry it hasn't worked out with LT.

Juliette, this sounds positive. Hope you can get passed this.

Ooh! Nora, what are you going to do? I feel a hat shop moment coming on!

SuckAtRelationships · 28/06/2013 19:53

Scrazy go for it with the guy on the back burner. We often push the best away for the unsuitable guys.

How does this thread move so quickly?

Kin your ex sounds horrendous and oww alpha sounds fab.

Guy 2 is so so easy to talk to but I know he will want to settle down quickly as most Christians do and that's a little scary (the local Christians don't even date without it already in their heads) as I am early 20 and already divorced a couple of years..

JulietteMontague · 28/06/2013 20:08

At it's about what you want. If it's the same as him then fine. You don't have to do anything you don't want to.

Kin it's almost like SB was sent to redress the balance Smile

Flipper we'll see

Scazy just (((hugsw))) lovely. Yes, go meet the other one to take your mind of it.

JulietteMontague · 28/06/2013 20:10

If I got to the shops now, I can get most stuff before the shut at 9pm can't I.