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New partner needing 'time'

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confusedisitme · 19/05/2013 15:54

I've recently started seeing someone - it's been under a month officially but we were very close before that for about 6 months.

He seems to come across as quite intense in his 'feelings' - always saying things like how he's broken, doesn't wan to lose me (said in that breathless, urgent way you'd imagine someone to say it in a cheesy american movie!) and the first week we were together he kept saying how strong his feelings were, felt like we'd been together a lot longer and all that stuff.

However, because he'd recently split up with someone and because of the fact I don't get on with a family member of his (I knew this family member before I knew him and we've never got along), he's been reluctant to tell anyone he's seeing me - he wanted to wait until the summer and then he felt like he'd be able to tell his close family members (including this person that hates me).
This caused issues between us, because I felt like we couldn't go out anywhere - he'd come and visit me at home, stay over etc and we have been out a few times out of town, but I want to just be able to go to the local restaurant or something in town and not worry that he'll be looking over his shoulder. He says I want everything 'now' and it's not possible...so because of this we argue - not full on rows, but niggly sort of things where usually one of us says we can't cope with it, and it's all up in the air again.

We were due to go out last night together, in town for a meal.

It'd been planned for 2 weeks, I had got my mum to have my three children overnight so we could go out (which meant me buying air beds and a travel cot so they could sleep at her house), and then Friday morning I had asked him to come over that night because we had been arguing and I wanted to try and fix us before I could go out with him the next night...eventually he agreed, we had a slight niggle but the rest of the night was fine, he said he couldn't lose me, the next morning he was very loving and we left on a good note - although he hadn't gone to sleep when I told him to that night, instead he kept trying it on for 90 minutes so we ended up only having about 4 hours' sleep :(

It got to 5pm on Saturday, the kids had already gone to my mum's and he text saying he was very tired, hadn't had a chance to sleep and would have to stay home - then didn't seem to understand why I was pissed off. I asked him to stick to the arrangements, he said he needed sleep and it spiralled into this massive argument and him refusing to even come over and see me, but stay in the house with me and not go out...which annoyed me further.

Eventually at 9pm he agreed to come over but sleep on the sofa, but said it would be finished for good if I "made him" come over...so he turned up, was very cold (I'd hoped I could win him round a bit but it didn't happen) and eventually left again after saying he couldn't handle this, and I should've let him stay at home.

He's now saying we need to "work on positive texts and see how we go" - we can't see each other now until the weekend after next as we both have commitments, so he wants me to basically just send him chatty, random texts through the next couple of weeks, effectively covering up how hurt I am and not talking about 'us' until he decides whether he misses me and wants to try again or not.

I understand that all this arguing has got him down; it has me too, but on Friday night he said he can't lose me with that sense of urgency and passion that made it seem like he loved me...then last night he said his feelings had significantly reduced over the past week or so and he wants to se if he can get them back - to me, I don't want to wait around to see if his feelings reappear; if they went in the first place (mine haven't, despite the arguing) then it feels like I'd be losing the self respect I still have left by taking him back if he decided he wanted to.

Does that make sense at all?

Apologies for the essay...I suppose I'm just wondering if he's being unreasonable in what he's asking of me now, or I am.

PS - he did text me last night saying that he can't see how he can be with me, but the thought of not being with me hurts him like crazy; and that he just needs a bit of space from the arguing, and just positive texting for a week or so, and see if it helps his feelings reappear.

OP posts:
forumdonkey · 22/05/2013 20:16

FFS!! You are still arguing?!! Get a grip woman he's a stranger - you hardly know the man and you quite clearly have little in common as you are constantly arguing.

Your abusive ex didn't start off beating you up when you first got together. What makes you think he might be any different??

An abusive relationship should make you wary of jumping in a rushing things but on the contrary you seem hell bent in having a relationship with any tom dick or janny regardless of the turmoil or disruption on your poor DC's

whatwasIthinkingof · 22/05/2013 20:16

Anyone who comes out with OTT romantic crap and then acts like he has - everything always your fault, endless mind games etc - has serious issues and is totally immature. Is this really someone you want to be with? Oh and it sounds like he is using you for sex. Someone who cared about you and genuinely wanted to be in a relationship with you would not be acting like this at all.

confusedisitme · 22/05/2013 20:22

Using me for sex? How did you work that one out then?

OP posts:
forumdonkey · 22/05/2013 20:30

Notice you've replied to the post below mine but you are choosing to ignore mine and the more difficult to answer posts confused.

You keep telling yourself your a good mother - you are only trying to convince yourself. I bet your FB is full of the 'like','share' 'if your kids mean the world to me' shite. Your poor kids have been through and seen more shit in their short lives than anyone should ever go through and even having had an abusive childhood and then an abusive relationship YOUR need to be with someone - ANYONE is more important to YOU than peace and stability for your precious babies. Oh and thats not to mention the fact that it is someone from THEIR school and the problems it may cause THEM.

You selfish, selfish woman.

confusedisitme · 22/05/2013 20:33

Oh I'm sorry...did I not say it was over and I haven't contacted him?

And you're wrong about my facebook actually.

OP posts:
akaWisey · 22/05/2013 20:41

NO you didn't. You said you haven't contacted him since about 8pm last night which is unusual but you ended on a bad note so you think it's over .

Not the same thing at all actually. You must be loving all this attention OP.

EleanorHandbasket · 22/05/2013 20:50

You need to get help

Proper serious deep down counselling.

You have completely fucked up boundaries and expectations of men and relationships. I also remeber posts about your landlord trying to shag you and your 'best friend' of ten years who you were talking about marrying. As well as teh creepy caretaker at the school who I'm not convinced isn't the same guy.

Seriously, get of teh internet, stop doing this and seek some real proper help.

I am saying this out of concern for you, not to be a bitch.

This is really disturbing stuff.

forumdonkey · 22/05/2013 20:50

You still haven't replied to my posts!!

Even if stupid fcked up Janny sees sense and runs for the hills you'll still be desperate to get another 'anyone' to give your attention to instead of your DC's.

FuckThisShit · 22/05/2013 20:56

Well said Eleanor.

forumdonkey · 22/05/2013 20:56

Thanks EleanorHandbasket for the links. I look forward to composing my next song

BOF · 22/05/2013 21:07

Your songs have been a beacon in this thread, forumdonkey. I don't think I could have got through it otherwise.

forumdonkey · 22/05/2013 21:10

Bof I'm only halfway down the first page of the 'terrified stalked teacher' and I'm too Shock to pen my next number one hit!!

FuckThisShit · 22/05/2013 21:45

Get on with it..

FancyPuffin · 22/05/2013 21:52

Thank you Eleanor Thanks

I was bloody searching for that second thread for ages earlier.

OP Just. Bloody. Stop. It.

Either you are making this up for attention, in which case please see your GP or you relentlessly stalk and obsess over shitty old men, in which case please see your GP.

You really remind me of another poster, have you ever had a dog briefly

FancyPuffin · 22/05/2013 21:53

forumdonkey please do another song.

Maybe set to Busteds 'Thats what I go to school for'

FuckThisShit · 22/05/2013 22:00

Pahahaha FancyP.

Hashtagwhatever · 22/05/2013 22:01

If I was you op I would make the 24 hour of no texting another then another.

And ignore any he sends.

forumdonkey · 22/05/2013 22:06

FuckThisShit Vodka that'll not do it. Fck that - I'm going straight to shooting up !!

Fancy Puffin - Love it!!!Brilliant!! Grin

unapologetic · 22/05/2013 22:46

So it was you who wrote that amazingly long thread about the teacher hiding from you! On that thread, you did exactly as you are doing now - obsessing and reposting and not listening to anyone whatsoever.

forumdonkey · 22/05/2013 23:21

Does anyone have the contact details for the lollypop man because I'm seriously worried for him atm Hmm

He may start walking OP across the road and that'll mean he definitely wants to marry her and take her out to a very remote wood to spend his old age pension on a shandy after dark in the beer garden, on the way home.

SweetSeraphim · 22/05/2013 23:24
forumdonkey · 22/05/2013 23:36

Just a quick synopsis timeline:

Mid Jan 13 - obsessing over DC's teacher

Mid March 13 - obsessing over FB guy

Mid May 13 - obsessing over Janny

Waits for the 'Lollypop man Lurve' thread in mid July

Lweji · 23/05/2013 06:35

Either you are making this up for attention, in which case please see your GP or you relentlessly stalk and obsess over shitty old men, in which case please see your GP.
But only if the GP is a woman or a very young man.

FuckThisShit · 23/05/2013 06:39

What about mid June? Bin man? Bus driver?

TheRealFellatio · 23/05/2013 07:04

Eleanor those links. Shock

In the words of Pamela Shipman, Oh My Christ. Shock

That poor teacher. He had to be redeployed to another school because of an obsessed stalker parent. Holy Fuck. And she wonders why the HT does not like her?!

Those first fb messages back and forth from the OP and Janny (on the first thread you linked Eleanor) very conveniently omit her first opening message to him.

she says she just messaged to say hi and thanks for being a friendly face at a difficult time, but judging by the tone of his replies I'd say that's not the whole story. In fact I think that s the understatement of the century.

Janny knows she's a total bunny boiling nightmare but he cant help himself because he's nearly sixty and he can't quite believe his luck that a 30 year old would offer herself up on a plate like that. I hope he thinks the messy outcome is worth it. she's not going to give up easily is she?

OP I think you really need to take Eleanor's advice and get some help with your mental health. You sound to me as though you may have a personality disorder.