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Marriage ended after 27 years. This is "My Death".

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mrsmciver · 12/05/2013 12:43

My husband left 4 weeks ago after I found some dubious e-mails to another woman he works with. I have posted about this on another thread, but still need the support from all you lovely ladies out there.
I asked him to go to his mum's after I went mad screaming and shouting and both of us crying. He went to his mum's, then round to my parents explaining himself and accepting all the blame.
I still let him in the house later that night and we both sat talking and crying about how we would get over this, then he collected some things and went back to his mothers.
I phoned him the next morning demanding the ow mob number but he would not give it to me as he said i would jeapardise his job if she went to his boss. We were both still crying and he asked what to get for his breakfast as his mum only has fried food and he likes to keep fit and eat well so he went to shop to buy that and washing powder for his clothes.
He also came up later that afternoon and we both talked some more. He said he had been very flattered by the attentions of this high powered business woman and had got carried away, swore there was nothing physical.
He told me he would give me her mob number once I had calmed down and to be careful what to say to her as it would cost him his job. he said he would give it to me the next morning whilst on the train as he was away for a few days on a business meeting.
Next morning he phoned and gave me her number, I put it in the drawer as after all the trauma I could not face calling her, was in no state to do so. later that evening after another sleepless night, he phoned sounding like his normal self, and I told him I had not contacted her, but he probably knew that as she would have phoned him if I had.
I then asked him when he was coming home and he said he wasn't. he said it was so out of character for him to do that and that the blinkers had been taken off his eyes and that he must have been very unhappy to have done it in the first place.
I got very upset, begged him to come home, but he won't. He is staying at his mum's. I ended up in hospital after trying to end it all. Can't imagine life without him. And now he wants to settle all our financial affairs and divorce. Am distraught. We have two daughters, one is sitting her Higher exams right now and the other is expecting a baby. They have been so wonderful, they are so strong, told me I am better without him. He had been treating me badly weeks before and I knew something was "off", that was why I had looked at his phone.
He has said he can't forgive me for looking at his phone and have now destroyed all trust. And that I would make his life hell as I would now be paranoid and forever questioning what he is doing.
He says he has no energy left, nothing to give, and that my health problems have drained him. I have anxiety and stress. But it is not as if he was a carer, I did most things for him! He doesn't know what he wants, but he knows he does not want "this.
I am devastated, cannot do this anymore. Have been a mess, shaking stuttering, he was over Frid night and said he is never coming back and that we will be divorcing.
How do I do this? How can I live without him? We have been married for 27 years, ever since we were 15 years old.
I always had a feeling I would die early, in my forties, and this is it, this is "my death", I will never get over this. It is getting worse.

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springymater · 29/05/2013 14:42

Mrs -

IF you say you will never get over it, that's exactly what will happen. He is a shit. he is shittier than a shit, with his caved-in arse. He asks you if you're ok 'now' - what, 6 weeks after he ripped your life and your heart clean out? Yeah sure, you're fine. The WANKER.

So, do you want to throw your life away for this WANKSTAIN waste of space? Is that what you're going to do?

Here's something else: your girls will stick with you but, eventually - and I know this seems unfair - they will get over it themselves. They will move on. They will tire of you saying you will 'never get over it' and they will cold-shoulder you, eventually. Yes, it's grossly unfair but that's how it often goes...

You CAN say you feel like you'll never get over it - yep, you probably do feel that at the mo. But you CAN'T say you never will get over it - and believe it . It will be a self-fulfilling prophesy - you will, indeed, never get over it - and you don't want to hang that sign over your head. What would you want to do that for? In his grotesque selfishness, he's already done his damnest to destroy your life so far - why give him the rest of your life?

Lots of women have posted on here to say you do get over it; that it's tricky and it's viler than vile, but you do get there (eventually). Your time with the therapist appears to give you the boost you so need as you grapple with this awesome life-blow. You will have days where you feel you will never get over it - but don't believe it - even if it looks like that is the only possible outcome. You have to set your ship in the direction you want it to go.

You don't want the rest of your life destroyed by a vile, selfish, collapsed anus shit.

Keep going, sweetheart xx

skyeskyeskye · 29/05/2013 15:08

Well MrsM, you know where to tell him to stick that rabbit dont you ?! Grin

and springy is right - you WILL get over it. I feel like I will never get over it, but I know that I will.... My heart was broken just once before. I thought that I would never get over that, but I did. and when I met XH, I realised that I had never truly loved that other man, as what I felt for XH was hundred times more. (and that does make it harder to get over XH).

But I WILL get over it and SO WILL YOU! Sorry for shouting!! But you will. I know it doesn't feel like it and it is so early days for you, but you will...

mrsmciver · 29/05/2013 15:15

Hey Springy, you are so right I know you are.
To be honest I am now more worried about the money situation than never being with him again. He does not deserve me, wish there was such a thing as karma but that never seems to happen does it? Most shits seem to get away with doing really shitty things and nothing bad ever happens to them.
I would love to put a full ad in the local paper saying about his anus and his adultery. Don't think that is allowed, could be sued I think.
Oh but I can dream.
Would also want to divorce him but lawyer says to let him do it as he can then pay for the proceedings.
Please please god let me win the lottery so I can divorce him and let me take some control so that I am not waiting for him to do it!
Would not like the double whammy of him divorcing me too. Would like to do it first.

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MumnGran · 29/05/2013 15:51

Skye - now I am 41, I dont want to be looking at 49 year old men

Darleeeeng, its the time for a toyboy!!
No questions about it.
x

springymater · 29/05/2013 17:40

erm... mine got his comeuppance, I assure you. It was very very nasty.

Took a long time coming, mind.

So I'd have to say that you do reap what you sow (I'd like to say 'imo' but I don't think it is imo - it's a law of the universe. imo Smile )

I said on another thread - was it this one?? - that I used to think the 'what goes round comes round/karma' thing was bullshit, platitudes, something for people to say.

I don't now, put it like that.

catsrus · 29/05/2013 19:01

My exH had his comeuppance by marrying the OW, his 'soulmate' the bunny boiler everything I hear tells me he's probably regretting his choice. OTOH, After 25yrs together I am relishing my freedom. Yes it is a worry not to have the joint income and assets - but I would not turn the clock back. It willl take a while but you will be fine Smile

mrsmciver · 29/05/2013 20:00

Springy - do share, how did your ex get his comeuppance?
Wish mine would. He is away with his pal on holiday soon, the holiday we were meant to go on together, yep him and his pal will be living it large on holiday.
Meanwhile I have got £200 to last for 2 weeks for myself and youngest daughter and I have to buy food out of that too.
Feel like I could explode with venemous hate for him.
Please please all you ladies out there tell me how your ex's got their comeuppance, will make me feel better. Smile

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Lambzig · 29/05/2013 20:09

Ummm, my DH is seven years younger than me, so I can't help but agree with Mumngran. Skye I recommend you start looking at 35 year olds.

Mrs M, From your description, even while you are trying to be self deprecating, I don't think you will have a problem attracting men when you want to. Attractive, warm, loving with a sense of humour (and a great new haircut) - and that's you when you are going through this - what is not to like? It is quite clear to all here that your H is an idiot.

I don't believe you when you say you will never get over it, and much more importantly, I don't think you believe it either, you are starting to talk about what's next. There are green shoots poking through of the new you, do encourage them.

With regard to money, I hope your solicitor can help you with that, please don't believe what your H says you are entitled to.

Oh, do please keep ignoring him about the rabbit. Tempting to tell him what to do with fluffy bunny, but probably best to ignore. He is being completely crass with his texts, I can't figure out why he is asking if you are alright. If I was being charitable I would say perhaps he is trying to assuage his guilt, but I am not feeling charitable, so perhaps he is just looking for an ego boost that you are not coping without him. Ignore, ignore.

Good luck with your councillor tomorrow, there is lots for you to talk about.

Unmumsnetty hugs.

Lambzig · 29/05/2013 20:23

Oh I have a comeuppance story, so hope this doesn't out me.

I had been back in the UK for about a year and had a job as a director for a company in the very close knit industry we both worked in. My ExH got fired from his job overseas (losing his temper and calling the MD a c* probably didnt help, so rumour had it, temper temper), split with OW and came back to the uk.

He applied for a job in my company (possibly deliberately). My MD put two and two together from what I had told him about my ex over a few glasses of wine and called me into his office so I could watch him rip my ExH's CV in two and bin it saying "ssssh, don't tell HR". I also think my MD may have talked to a few industry contacts about ExH applying at my company to spite me and how unimpressed he was.

It took him a year to get another job and he ended up working outside the industry in a lesser field.

Super spiteful of me as it was his livelihood, but I couldn't help enjoying that slightly.

mrsmciver · 29/05/2013 20:30

Lambzig, am totally ignoring his e-mails about bunnies. It will be driving him mad! He had told me when I was better then we would 'talk'.
Aye right! He will be wanting to talk some more about finances and how to separate any savings! That will be right, will just forward any requests onto lawyer. That is why he will be asking if I am ok, so he can talk some more about his money.
Lawyers' letter will need to be addressed to, Hairy Ba Bag Man. c/o The Back Room. His Mums House, 17 Scummy Cresc, Shitehill. Grin
Defo not Harry Potter is he??

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mrsmciver · 29/05/2013 20:41

Lambzig, I luvs your comeuppance story!
Wish I could think of something.
Note to self, 'will need to ask counsellor if she has heard of any comeuppance stories'
Doubt she will tell me.
Am still on alcohol abstinence cos of my suicidal tendencies, not allowed any at all!!
Really am not going to do that. What the hell was I thinking?? Ok, life is crap at the mo and the future is even more scary but honest to god to think I was going to kill myself over that selfish, cold, cruel shit of a man. He is so not worth it.

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badinage · 29/05/2013 20:51

But this bloke's comeuppance story is already written isn't it Mrs M?

The OW probably won't leave her partner, or if she does and she sets up with your exH, he'll find the presence of her young kids will rain on his parade somewhat.

Plus he won't ever be able to get back that time he should have been supporting his youngest taking her GCSEs and his oldest's pregnancy. His relationship with his own children will never be as good as it could have been.

Meanwhile, people in his industry will be sniggering about yet another silly old fool having a midlife crisis and losing his family and his assets. He's probably already regarded as a bit of a joke amongst his associates Wink

Lambzig · 29/05/2013 20:52

Mrs M, for that last paragraph, please picture me in a cheerleader outfit, waving those Pom Pom things, shouting "Yayyyyy. Give me an M, give me a c.....". Possibly the most unlikely thing to see me doing in RL, but that's how your last few words made me feel.

MumnGran · 29/05/2013 20:56

Now that's a lot more like it, Mrs M Grin
Suspect no booze is a good idea for now .....DD had a bf when I was going through it all, and he said that several of his friends has parents who split when children were teens.....and the women poured themselves into bottles. Not a good way to go, and I resolved their and then to stop opening the wine bottle every night.

It is a lot easier if two people can reach an agreement about finances which they can then present to their respective solicitors to agree as acceptable (just saves time and legal fees) BUT it only works if you are able to hold your own in discussions, and I am not sure how strong you would feel in that situation at the moment.
Might be best to just send him a new email (not as a reply) in very formal tone. Thank him for his enquiry into your health, however this is no longer his concern .... etc etc And as you say .....all financial discussion via your lawyer.
just my spin ...the other girls may have other thoughts!

Just so good to hear you sounding so strong Smile
Another "awesome" day!

springymater · 29/05/2013 21:03

Not telling. But it was gruesome.

mrs, you are sounding bea-u-ti-ful if I may say so! TOP form! Smile Smile

go mrs, go mrs, go mrs

MumnGran · 29/05/2013 21:06

God ...looks as though its me who has been on the wine this evening ... 2 typos in last message! Please read : had parents (not 'has') and
there (not 'their')

Come-uppance. Absolutely, what goes around comes around, and fate has definitely stepped in for mine

  1. Top of the list is the loss of his daughters respect and affections as a direct result of his behaviour to them.
  2. He has seen his baby GS just once, and has no actual relationship with him)
  3. OW turned out to be a harridan who throws screaming tantrums and won't let him out of her sight
  4. He bought me out of the house before the property market collapsed, and has lost massively
  5. He had a heart attack.
(probably makes me an absolute bitch to say I was sad to hear that the paddles were charged up and ready, when he flatlined.....ask me if I care!)

Revenge is definitely best savoured cold Smile

mrsmciver · 29/05/2013 21:16

Yep, here is hoping he is regarded as a middle age fool in his work place.
Want him to suffer so so much. As long as he is able to work then that is all that matters to me!
The hatred for this man is getting stronger every day now. Never thought I could hate as much. It actually sticks in my throat. Better that than the despair I have felt before.
Why would he give up his family life for that other woman? He will never get it back. He even said to me before he left that it would be 'good' of me if I could ask him up for Xmas! That is never going to happen! An ambulance would need to be called as I would want to carve him instead of the turkey! Nope never going to happen, he would never get out of the house uninjured.
He has given everything up in his quest for 'more'. Sad, silly,pathetic git of a man.

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MumnGran · 29/05/2013 21:32

An ambulance would need to be called as I would want to carve him instead of the turkey

That's our girl !!!!!

WhyWhyY · 29/05/2013 22:03

He certainly is pathetic, you sound ace and worthy of a totally ace man to treat you as you deserve.

You are most definitely not over the hill or whatever drivel you were saying in the beginning, you are a mature woman with so much to offer. I am younger than you and hope I will be so strong, if this ever happens to me. :)

TheOwlService · 29/05/2013 23:07

Hi Mrs M

Been reading your thread and think you are doing really well despite what has happened to you. You are bound to be up and down like a yoyo its only natural.

In my experience some people give up a 'family life' without a backward glance, or only want to play a very minor role on their terms and only when it benefits them. Its horrible I know but it sounds like you are better off without him, in the long term you will be fine.

Best thing you can do is build a happy and fulfilled life without him and this is the best revenge you can have. This takes time and is hard, no one can deny that. But its achievable for sure.

Take care.

springymater · 29/05/2013 23:21

oh, I do like the sound of this!

YAY for you slicing him up not having him round for Christmas Day

Flowers Flowers Flowers

skyeskyeskye · 30/05/2013 00:36

MrsM, you sound stronger again now, hold into that.

As for Xmas!...... My XH said that maybe we could have family days out in a few months, after he walked out....

I think it's called having your cake and eating it too...

Twat!

mrsmciver · 30/05/2013 10:34

Do you think I sound stronger? Was worried I sounded all bitter and twisted....
Yep I think he will only want to play a minor role in family life now, because it suits him for now, just have that feeling as it was always me that organised family get togethers and smoothed things over between him and the girls as I always felt he was too hard on them. Once they start talking to him again right enough he will let the youngest away with anything now as he will want her on his side, I just know what he is like.
Anyway he is away for the next few days with 'work', am glad, at least I am not worried about any phone calls or bumping into him at all. Mind you all he is doing is working cos he will be saving up very hard to buy his own place.
But I smell something is not right, he lies continually now, and even though he says I can have the house, I think he means 'for now', until youngest daughter finishes her sixth year at school,(next June).
Such a lot needs done to it and maybe that is why he was wanting a new garage in so that he can move into it next year and me out of it.
He will be wanting the girls to stay with him here, where they are used to and with their own space.(He will also be reckoning on eldest daughters relationship with her partner not working out and her moving in here with baby). Could be wrong but don't think I am.
Do not trust a thing he says at all now. If he can do that to his children at this time in their lives, and take no responsibility, then he is capable of anything. He is the worst of the worst, wish I had faced up to this many years ago and got out.
I can't believe I have been so blinkered and naive. Sad

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skyeskyeskye · 30/05/2013 10:38

MrsM - I thought that my XH was reliable, honest, dependable, loving, a good father.... I knew that he could be deceitful over money, but never over OW.......

You see what you want to see and they only show you what they want to show you....

It is not your fault for seeing the man that you thought he was. They only show their true colours when they think that the grass is greener elsewhere....

mrsmciver · 30/05/2013 10:48

Beautiful sunny day here today ladies, am off to meet my pal soon for a spot of lunch, well when I say lunch now it is a pack of sandwiches from Asda and a can of cola. ( And we will go and sit in the park). Hey ho, at least I have pals unlike Twat Face!!
I really am very lucky in lots of ways, my fabi mum has also asked the whole family out for Sunday lunch at a nice restaurant this coming weekend too. And my wee sis and brother-in-law have been so great too, and all my lovely friends, will be forever indebted to them for helping me and the girls, and also for my lovely girls, 'for keeping it real', love them all to bits.
Hope it is nice where you all are today and you can get out into the sun for a wee while, always makes us feel better!

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