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Marriage ended after 27 years. This is "My Death".

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mrsmciver · 12/05/2013 12:43

My husband left 4 weeks ago after I found some dubious e-mails to another woman he works with. I have posted about this on another thread, but still need the support from all you lovely ladies out there.
I asked him to go to his mum's after I went mad screaming and shouting and both of us crying. He went to his mum's, then round to my parents explaining himself and accepting all the blame.
I still let him in the house later that night and we both sat talking and crying about how we would get over this, then he collected some things and went back to his mothers.
I phoned him the next morning demanding the ow mob number but he would not give it to me as he said i would jeapardise his job if she went to his boss. We were both still crying and he asked what to get for his breakfast as his mum only has fried food and he likes to keep fit and eat well so he went to shop to buy that and washing powder for his clothes.
He also came up later that afternoon and we both talked some more. He said he had been very flattered by the attentions of this high powered business woman and had got carried away, swore there was nothing physical.
He told me he would give me her mob number once I had calmed down and to be careful what to say to her as it would cost him his job. he said he would give it to me the next morning whilst on the train as he was away for a few days on a business meeting.
Next morning he phoned and gave me her number, I put it in the drawer as after all the trauma I could not face calling her, was in no state to do so. later that evening after another sleepless night, he phoned sounding like his normal self, and I told him I had not contacted her, but he probably knew that as she would have phoned him if I had.
I then asked him when he was coming home and he said he wasn't. he said it was so out of character for him to do that and that the blinkers had been taken off his eyes and that he must have been very unhappy to have done it in the first place.
I got very upset, begged him to come home, but he won't. He is staying at his mum's. I ended up in hospital after trying to end it all. Can't imagine life without him. And now he wants to settle all our financial affairs and divorce. Am distraught. We have two daughters, one is sitting her Higher exams right now and the other is expecting a baby. They have been so wonderful, they are so strong, told me I am better without him. He had been treating me badly weeks before and I knew something was "off", that was why I had looked at his phone.
He has said he can't forgive me for looking at his phone and have now destroyed all trust. And that I would make his life hell as I would now be paranoid and forever questioning what he is doing.
He says he has no energy left, nothing to give, and that my health problems have drained him. I have anxiety and stress. But it is not as if he was a carer, I did most things for him! He doesn't know what he wants, but he knows he does not want "this.
I am devastated, cannot do this anymore. Have been a mess, shaking stuttering, he was over Frid night and said he is never coming back and that we will be divorcing.
How do I do this? How can I live without him? We have been married for 27 years, ever since we were 15 years old.
I always had a feeling I would die early, in my forties, and this is it, this is "my death", I will never get over this. It is getting worse.

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springymater · 28/05/2013 13:27

Yes, you will get through this. It will be the making of you imo. As with Lamb, you are only 'not strong' because that's how the shit liked you - so he could control you and order you about and keep you 'weak'.

you don't sound weak to me.

springymater · 28/05/2013 13:27

When is your next therapy session btw?

mrsmciver · 28/05/2013 16:34

Lambzig, Mumn, Springy. What would I do without you now? You are so brilliant and really do keep me going. You are all so fabulous and talk such sense to me! I will forever remember all of you who have posted here and brought me back from the depths.
I have counselling on a Thursday, actually can't wait for it to be honest, so that I can offload without feeling I am dragging people down.
I think that if I was able to work I would feel better. My eldest says if I was working I would be telling him to sod off and never darken our door again.
Stupid man doesn't realise what he is going to miss. Do you know all my in laws have not been in contact? How terrible is that? He would have told them to stay away and not to get involved but they do have minds of their own and for us all to be ignored is really bad, will never forgive them for that. Yep just over 6 weeks and nothing, not even a text.
Don't get me wrong, and I am nowhere near thinking like that yet, but what man would ever want me? I have numerous health problems.
All that history gone. I will never be able to say "do you remember when...." and we would talk about it and discuss it and laugh over it. I have noone to share all that past with now, and he always had such a good memory too. He was better at remembering things than I was.
But MumnGran I will put that narcisist note on the fridge too, to go along with my awesome one! My youngest wrote the last one out for me in a heart shape with pink and blue fancy swirly writing!! God love her she really took her time over it so I guess I should look at it and appreciate it more!
I wonder if he will ever want to come back? What happened with all your ex's? Would never trust him now anyway, he has brought me so low and left me for dead. And the cold,cruel way he has handled everything too..... I think I married a monster and never realised it. The counsellor has asked me many things about his behaviour over the years and a lot of the things I recall are awful, but I always made excuses for him, just never thought he would do it to his family.
Do you know last night he left a message on the answering machine asking if our youngest could go and see his sisters new rabbit as her son was asking for our youngest to go over!
My daughter was like"Yeah, couldn't give a stuff about my feelings over exam times but now cos his sister is asking he wouldn't be wanting to upset them. And as if I am going to be bribed by a rabbit!". My youngest is one smart cookie!
So ladies, never in a million years did I think this would happen to me. Just trying to get through each day at a time. I wish I could pull myself out of this void and get back on track somehow. The anti d's are helping a little I think but I feel a bit foggy on them in the mornings, mind you I think that is because mornings are my worst time right enough. My mum keeps telling me off saying that I have a lot to look forward to, and I know I have, I do, but am terrified of the future. No money. Cannot treat my daughters and grandaughter. No way forward?

Right now it is a matter of one foot in front of the other each day.

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skyeskyeskye · 28/05/2013 17:46

MrsM - you will get through it. I thought that I would die, I thought that I would never get through 1 day, 1 week 1 month, yet I am still here 1 year later. If I had been asked to write a list of a million things that my XH might do one day, I would not have written OW on it, as he was the last man on earth who would ever betray me, but he did.

The shock is immense when you do not see it coming. You are right, your H is selfish, callous, cold....

You are worth more than that, you deserve more than that. You and I, we cannot see that right now, but we will see it one day. The deeper you love, the harder you hurt, the longer it takes to come to terms with.

The price you pay for love is grief. Wise words that I heard on here. I cried again today, for the loss of my life as I knew it, and for the fear of the future. But my counsellor keeps reminding me, the future hasn't been written yet, you can make it what you will.

It will get better in time. I never heard from any of my XH's family either. Obviously seemed quite normal to them for him to just walk out with no warning.... The fact that you haven't heard from your IL's, just proves that they are not people that you need to have in your life.

You have your daughters, you will have a grandchild. That grandchild will give you a new lease of life. You have so much to look forward to with that baby.

Keep on putting one foot in front of the other, step by step, day by day and you will get there.

Lambzig · 28/05/2013 18:33

Well your inlaws, are you sure they know? Bet they only know a little bit that your H has told them. which will not involve another woman. Being charitable, but perhaps the think it will all blow over, or don't know what to say.

Regarding never finding another man. If you want one, when you are ready, you will find one. Don't worry about that at the moment.

MumnGran · 28/05/2013 18:47

Lambzig makes a good point Mrs M. They may well not be sure what to say to you, or fear hearing a tirade about someone they love. Making first contact could be a good thing (and if it turns out not to be then at least you know exactly where you stand!)

I made contact with both my MIL and SIL, a few weeks after the wotsit hit the fan (actually I emailed the family to say that DD2 and I could now be contacted at xxxx address) The then STBXH had contacted them, but they were really pleased to hear from me ....and since then have fought major battles with X about remaining in contact with me regardless. They have refused to be dictated to by him, on the subject of who they should associate with.

So .... may well be worth a carefully worded contact with them (email might be best, but phone calls are good if you have been "close" previously). You need to avoid any accusations or being drawn into running him down ...... just an "I miss you and don't want to lose touch just because we are no longer together".

A really good chance to show the new, strong you to the world Smile

mrsmciver · 28/05/2013 20:38

In Laws never bothered that much with me and their grandaughters before, they are not nice people, was never keen on them anyway so I guess it is a blessing I will never see them again! However I feel they should have done the right thing and at least phoned to see how their grandaughters and neices were?
He most definitely will not have told them the full story and his mother will do as she is told by him. It would be a case of " my poor boy what he had to put up with and he would have been driven to it". That is what they will be like. But they still will not know the full story, I don't even know the full story!
Skyeskye, we really are better off without people like that in our lives.
Nope cannot ever imagine being with another man, only has ever been one, just think that is not for me now and that side of my life has ended.
Oh but the thought of being on my own for the rest of my life makes me want to curl up and die.

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MumnGran · 28/05/2013 22:20

Rest of your life is a long time Mrs M .... so I wouldn't be too certain that you will never have that sort of life again Smile I know of someone who re-married at 72 Grin

mrsmciver · 28/05/2013 22:42

Do you know something? I actually think that I have stopped "missing " him. Must be because of the way he has treated me. I am actually more concerned now about finances. Or lack off. And I would love a big manly cuddle and snog!(nookie would be welcome too!) Can't believe I am thinking like that!! But not with him. The thought of being with him now actually turns my stomach a little.
Bloody hell, what is wrong with me that I am thinking about nookie but not with him when I have never done it with anyone else?
That's not right in these early days is it?
Must be because of the hate I have for him now.
Just as well I am seeing my counsellor soon, wonder what she will say about that one!
I must just be gagging for it!!
Maybe should not post this.
Oh what the hell, I will.

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skyeskyeskye · 28/05/2013 22:49

MrsM - are you on the Wine ? Grin.

mrsmciver · 28/05/2013 22:55

Hey Skye! No am not on the vino but have just taken one of my "happy" pills! (anti d's) for night time!
Same effect I suppose! They make me feel a bit groggy(and horny?)
Will be embarrassed about this in the morning I think.

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skyeskyeskye · 28/05/2013 23:01

lol. don't worry about it. better to be honest on here, no matter how you feel.

I can't imagine being with anyone else after ten years with XH. but then I was recently exchanging messages online with a bloke, nothing heavy, but I did start thinking that I would be able to be with somebody else..... i waver between the two and think that i will be ok when I do meet somebody else. But I am not actively looking.

sweet dreams!

MumnGran · 28/05/2013 23:02

Rock on Mrs M !!!!
After the conversations we have shared here, there is certainly nothing embarrassing about nookie!

MumnGran · 28/05/2013 23:02

Hi Skye - how are you doing this evening?7

skyeskyeskye · 28/05/2013 23:19

Hi Mumngran. Im ok. Giving others good advice (I hope) yet not always able to follow it myself! Know what has to be done, not so good at doing it :(

We will all get there though one day, in our own time...

I waver between being thankful to being free of his debts, to resenting the fact that he is living a footloose carefree life!!

I haven't had any nookie since my "date" last May with with my XH, where we had a wonderful day out, I thought it was the start of rekindling everything, then he wrote me a nasty letter and that was it for good! Bastard.....

MrsM this is your thread and you say what you want to say, embarrassing or not... :)

Monty27 · 28/05/2013 23:24

Hi OP, I saw you're op at the offset but didn't bookmark it so there's so many posts now that I can't catch up right at this momen.

I so hope you're ok.

Do you know something? It's not your death, it's your rebirth. and I think he's an utter shit.

Feeling for you.
Flowers

mrsmciver · 28/05/2013 23:36

Hi Skye, Mumn,
It just got me thinking when I would ever have nookie again and I was thinking probably never because I don't go anywhere to meet other men! So I am going to end up having a nookie free life! Aaargh! Don't like the sound of that at all!
I like nookie!!
Skye, do you think you will meet up with that man you were chatting with online? Would be lovely for you if he was nice and decent, keep my fingers crossed for you, do not want you to have a nookie free life either. (am sure you won't though cos you sound so lovely).

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skyeskyeskye · 28/05/2013 23:40

online man was a waste of time. we were getting on well, chatting, friendly, getting to know each other. he asked for my mobile number so that we could chat more easily and I gave it to him, then never heard from him again!

shame, he was quite good looking and 6 years younger than me Grin

never mind, plenty more fish in the sea... hopefully!

springymater · 29/05/2013 06:35

oh cringe re online idiot man! Like you could have done with that skye! Angry

re nookie: a friend's husband died suddenly. She went through a stage of gagging for it. Probably a few reasons for that - she had had an active sex life that was suddenly stopped; she was very distressed and needed the comfort of loving sex.

So don't be embarrassed, sweetie. Tis natural Smile

So what's your plan for today? xx

MumnGran · 29/05/2013 06:38

I'd rather have a cheese sandwich Grin
(and just in case you are blushing this morning .... have a Brew )

To be serious ..... there are a lot of available men out there these days Mrs M, so I don't think you need to worry about that side of things too much. The problem I have found is that - at our stage of life - the tables seem to reverse and its the men who want more commitment than I am prepared to handle. Things are trotting along nicely and then they start to talk about meeting the family, moving in together .....
I run like a commitment-phobic teenager boy!
Nothing on earth could persuade me to trade the independence and freedom I have now, for allowing a man even an ounce of control over my life.
I guess you can say that I am not bitter, after it all, but am definitely a bit twisted Grin

Skye I think you are most of the way there Flowers not least because you can stand back from yourself and view the emotions that well up for what they are ...... a grief for the nicer parts of the past and a core knowledge that things for you are actually better now. That's a major piece of self awareness. I also hear a very healthy commitment to the future. so I think you are doing just fine.

skyeskyeskye · 29/05/2013 11:31

Mum - thanks for that. I still feel like Im on such an emotional rollercoaster at times, but I am getting there slowly.... I keep saying that I can help advise others on what to do, but cant do it myself Grin

I don't know what to look for in a man to be honest. XH was 8 years older than me at 49 now, which was never a problem, but I look at men of that age online and they all seem so old...... because me and XH met at 30 and 38, we grew along together, but now I am 41, I dont want to be looking at 49 year old men, does that make sense, lol..

MrsM, hope you are OK today. :)

mrsmciver · 29/05/2013 14:16

I don't know what to look for in a man either! Am an emotional rollercoaster too.
Well.....what I would like is tall, full head of hair, own teeth and keeps fit! And clean!
Emotionally stable(yep tall order), confident but not overly so, kind, gentle, considerate and solvent.
Now where are men like that growing!! Where do they go to?
I do have a cheek right enough considering the state i'm in at the mo!
Just can't bear the thought of being on my own for the rest of my life, it absolutely terrifies me.

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skyeskyeskye · 29/05/2013 14:21

MrsM - this is where counselling should help you. I told my counseller the same. I cried and said that I dont want to be on my own forever. She said why would you think like that? I said because I was on my own a lot before I met XH and I thought that he was "the one".

Counselling is helping me to work out who I am and to show me that I can be on my own, that I need to love myself before anybody else can.

Hopefully your counsellor will do the same for you, but it does take time. You need to build up your self worth. You are worth it and you will meet somebody that appreciates it.

I also want man with own hair and teeth, lol (after bald husband with 4 false teeth in the front....., but I loved him anyway :( )

mrsmciver · 29/05/2013 14:23

Yes am keeping busy today Skye, and I hope you all are ok too.
Ex keeps pestering me with e-mails and messages for the girls to go down and see ex sil's rabbit! Honest to god he just won't take the hint. The girls are not interested, even though we have had many rabbits over the years and we all love animals. It is because of the circumstances. Am fed up of him, even in the e-mail he said I hope you are ok now. Yeah right, my life felt like it was destroyed, and I am going to be ok 6 weeks later? He really is the biggest arse in the world!
By the way he actually had an operation on his bottom a couple of years ago! Prolapsed anus!!
Must have been a prediction for the future!

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mrsmciver · 29/05/2013 14:31

Oh how I would love to name him and shame him on here! I have done nothing wrong so couldn't care less! But am not sure of the legalities of doing that so better not.
I don't think anyone will ever want me to be honest, not with my health difficulties and not being able to go out to work. Who would want that? However, and I think I will big myself up here, am a good cook, and when I am done up, am not bad looking, and kind and considerate and have empathy for other people(ex does not have that). I am also quite funny(so Ihave been told).
Well, not lately right enough, not had much to laugh about.
Skye, you really do sound the best, would love for you to meet someone if that was what you were looking for.

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