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Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse

141 replies

Mosman · 09/05/2013 12:58

"H" has lost his job. I wasn't working because we don't have a visa or permanent residency now.
I'm in Perth the rent is paid until Tuesday, he's getting a week in lue of notice, 4 children and about $700 to my name.
Does anyone know if the embassy or someone will fly us home.
I can't take much more tbh

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RandomMess · 11/05/2013 15:08

Go to the consulate with your $700 and see if they can help you get home on that, perhaps your parents will pay the difference for you and the dc, leave the bastard behind to sort himself out?

SconeInSixtySeconds · 11/05/2013 15:45

Trouble is Random, $700 isn't enough for a single for an adult. Plus I don't even know if Mosman has a way of getting to the airport :(

RandomMess · 11/05/2013 15:48
Sad

What happens if get deported? Who pays for that?

Lavenderhoney · 11/05/2013 15:50

The person you are dating- does this influence your staying? Would he put you and the dc up? If you want to stay that is.

If you are only together for practical reasons, that's over I guess now he has no job- would your mum and dad fly you and the dc home? Ad would they or could they pay the 7k as a shortbterm loan for you- you could always put the place straight on the market or re let it to cover bills, then live where you would like and there is work?

Where do you really want to be? And where is it best to be? Will you be forced to leave anyway?

SconeInSixtySeconds · 11/05/2013 15:59

Sorry, dc trying to kill each other in the hail (!) - a cab wouldn't cost 700 bucks but probably fifty or so.

I'm afraid I found the consulate not much help when I was discussing another 457 matter with them previously :(

SconeInSixtySeconds · 11/05/2013 16:08

Aussie govt would pay for deportation I should think, but they would understandably want to know why the employers weren't paying as it is one of the criteria under which 457s are granted.

Plus there is significant political will to radically decrease the number of people entering the country on one of this class of visas. And I am pretty sure the PR test has just up scaled to needing to be employed by the same employer in the same place for more than 2 years.

Mosman · 12/05/2013 02:40

No new guy isn't a consideration, he's just a distraction tbh
If the blooming Aussie government would do emergency loans to feed the kids until we find jobs all I'm sure could be turned around. I wouldn't mind but o e of the kids is actually Australian.

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Mosman · 12/05/2013 02:52

It was actually my employers that issues the 457, I've been told that unless a return airfare is written into the contract of employment it's not enforceable but how I would piss myself laughing if those twunts have to pay.

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SavoyCabbage · 12/05/2013 04:55

Can you approach your real estate agent and see if you can get out of this lease? I seem to remember you saying that your rent and bills were huge compared to the other Perth dwellers.

SavoyCabbage · 12/05/2013 05:01

"Removal or deportation and maintenance costs

Where the Commonwealth makes arrangements for a person removed or deported to be conveyed to a place outside Australia, that person is required to pay to the Commonwealth an amount equal to the passage money, plus other charges payable in respect of the conveyance (s.210 Migration Act).

Where a person who is being removed, or in respect of whom a deportation order has been made, is kept in custody in a state or territory pending deportation, that person is liable to pay to the Commonwealth an amount equal to the cost of maintenance during that period (s.209). Departmental officers are also able to seize valuables of people being removed or deported and apply them towards the costs of removal or deportation (s.224)."

Mosman · 12/05/2013 05:45

Our lease is up in July anyway do we'll be leaving. My worry is with no jobs where the hell will we go, I suppose we could sleep in backpackers.
I'll be getting a ten grand tax refund in July which is a nightmare because the UK house gets repossessed in June, I'm trying to get a family whip round for that, airfare on top might be a step too far.

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SconeInSixtySeconds · 12/05/2013 07:56

Is the tax refund from the Aussies? Because in my experience for a refund of that size you will get investigated (it happened to us) and the payout will come much later. in our case in fucking February

I am sure that you should get flown back. I will go and see if I can find the legislation.

SconeInSixtySeconds · 12/05/2013 08:01

Hmm. Hostels look dear. I put into Booking.com a week at the end of May, guessed four children's ages and it looks like it might be more than your lease :(

see here

SconeInSixtySeconds · 12/05/2013 08:06
Grin

Found it on the immigration website

glastocat · 12/05/2013 09:16

Did you quit your job Mosman? I wonder does that impact on their obligations to pay for repatriation. Is there anything you can sell? You can get good prices for second hand gear on gumtree, if you have a half decent car could you sell it and buy a beater to do you for a while? We bought a great little run around for $1400.

Longdistance · 12/05/2013 09:19

I'm sure the company that sponsored you on a 457 has to pay for your flight back.

We had a container and a half paid for by my h's company to send our stuff over, and on his contract it specifically said the return flight had to be
Paid and the container again would be paid for if they made him redundant.

Mosman · 12/05/2013 09:21

No, technically they fired me but basically they couldn't break through to the customer base they wanted me to deliver on so I don't feel bad about that at all.
We do have a good car on credit and we have income protection insurance on it which will cover the full cost of the monthly payments so is be crazy to get rid of that whilst we are here, fuck seven of us might be sleeping in it.
The mad thing is my brother is here, happy to do childcare so if we both got $100,000 jobs we'd be sorted. Just needs to happen this week.

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Sucksoutthejoy · 12/05/2013 09:25

Whichever company sponsored your 457 has to repatriate you regardless of your employment contract. It is a condition of the issue of the visa. We're both lawyers, we check this shit!

Mosman · 12/05/2013 09:51

That is a massive relief, thank you so much everyone that's found all this out for me, I was frozen like a rabbit in the headlights.
I think the most obvious solution is for me and the baby to go back to the UK, get things sorted and the kids to follow on before school starts back in September unless by some miracle I get a job offer ASAP.
On the plus side I've lost the 2 stone of baby weight so every cloud and all that

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Mosman · 12/05/2013 09:52

Through worry and stress, I'm not just showing off Grin

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 12/05/2013 09:53

mosman - seen some if your previous threads.

Second the excellent advice on this thread to cut the twunt loose. Now.

Practically speaking, my feel is that you should get back to the UK ASAP. Re the house, can your parents bail you out in the strict understanding that you'll pay them back when you get the tax rebate? If not, deffo worth speaking to the mortgage company. They just want their money and may be willing to wait for the arrears if you give an absolute undertaking you'll pay and provide vouching of the rebate. I think they're even more likely to go for this if you can get a new job and show you can make future payments. Is that feasible? I don't know.

If you're going to kill the twunt, don't forget to take a life insurance policy out on him beforehand. Who says crime never pays Grin

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 12/05/2013 09:54

If yiu leave Oz - are you sure that the twunt will let the other 3 children follow you later? I would take them all

newbiefrugalgal · 12/05/2013 10:29

I would take all the kids too. We are not that far off summer, they could just have an extended break (if you have childcare?)

I would also take them so they don't feel abandoned.

Mosman · 12/05/2013 10:31

Oh he'll send them home, life as a single dad with no cash trust me he won't do that for long.

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Mosman · 12/05/2013 10:33

Despite everything I think two of the little buggers would rather be with him anyway which makes me furious and sad but what can you do

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