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Dh wants to talk-think it might spell the end.

311 replies

houseworkhater · 04/04/2013 15:40

Have been together 20 years with 3 dcs.

Most people view us as being well suited and happy together.
Anyhow last year dh said he might leave. I was at my wits end. he said he basically wanted more sex and the house to be tidier.

I ran myself ragged upping the anti. I was literally following the dcs around moving everything in sight endlessly cleaning, throwing things away all to make it easier for me to keep this very tidy house.

After a time I began to think fuck this.
I went away for a few days with 2 dcs and when I came back the house was in a right state. Ds, who stayed at home, immediately said he was starving. Dh was in the pub. I asked dh to come home. He didn't, when he did I asked him to leave as this time I was the one who laid down my demands.

I told dh to stop going out so much and start and put his family first. He stopped going out as much and really made an effort.
We stayed together and have talked things through.
We have both tried to make more time for each other etc.

It is hard as dh is having to work very long hours and is always tired. On top of this he has joined a band. The money does come in handy but the trouble is none of the band have children, only one is married and they are all much youinger than him. He told them that he won't play every weekend but it seems to be taking over. He has told me that one of the band has offered to let him stay at his if we do split up.

I think dh might take him up on the offer!

I am so mad. I know he feels that sex is virtually non existant but he is either in bed before me, tired or out with the bloody band and then I am asleep when he returns.

I really want to make it work. the dcs have no idea that anything is wrong.

Any advice?

Thanks.

OP posts:
Leavenheath · 07/04/2013 11:58

It does make sense. All that rubbish about 'family life' was just what he said instead of admitting he was having an affair. Every rubbish excuse he gave for his decision to leave should now be discounted. He left for someone else. That's all the OP needs to know.

skyebluesapphire · 07/04/2013 12:08

house - you are getting some great advice on here. Please take some time to look after yourself. I know it is difficult, but try and eat something, just little and often and drink plenty of water. Make an appointment to see a solicitor and sort out tax credits, council tax discount, etc etc. You will start to feel more in control again if you sort all of these things out.

Ignore anything from him unless it is do to with the children. He needs to understand that his life from now on is going to be very different. Put yourself and the kids first now, dont worry about him and her. I know how hard it is, I really really do and cant always follow my own advice, but the less contact you have with him the better it will be for you

tessa6 · 07/04/2013 13:08

OP, I know it must be awful and I really feel for you but you need to lower your defences slightly maybe and realise that it has always been about this affair. Of course he has slept with her. They have been in an intimate long-term relationship, probably since before he started talking to you about any dissatisfaction in the relationship. Until you detach, you will have no chance at finding happiness. He cannot be believed anymore.

Inertia · 07/04/2013 13:34

House - delurking here. Am just appalled at everything he's done, but it takes an incredible level of twuntishness to try to make his distraught teenage daughter to go and comfort his mother, because he is too busy with his band and OW to clear up his own mess.

Glad you have found your anger and seen through his lies.

He's a waste of oxygen. You and your children are worth more than this.

It's probably not worth trying to force him into parenting the children at weekends. He doesn't give a shit and will reject them over and over in favour of OW and band. Make sure you inform CSA of the band income too, BTW.

houseworkhater · 07/04/2013 14:07

I'm back in now, been out and had some fresh air.

He has text begging me not to involve "an innocent person" in the Divorce. He obviously thinks I am going to divorce him now, but I will bide my time and seek advice first.

I have not replied to his texts.

Someone rang my mob earlier then hung up when I answered. I didn't give them the pleasure of me ringing back.

OP posts:
Leavenheath · 07/04/2013 14:10

She's got a partner then and he's shitting himself. Chances are, so is she.

She probably said 'give me 3 months to get rid of my boyfriend'.

Now you've scuppered the whole plot Grin

houseworkhater · 07/04/2013 14:12

He also text dd and asked her to come to the gig so they could talk.

She said no, she has told him that he is even letting this band lark ruin their relationship.

If he wants to speak to her she has told him that it won't be anywhere near the band.

I have told all kids they can see their father whenever they like, I won't stop them or feel betrayed.

OP posts:
SundaeGirl · 07/04/2013 14:16

Sounds as though you are making all the rights decisions. Stay strong!

How is your DD doing?

ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 07/04/2013 14:18

"An innocent person"? Who's that then?

You are an innocent person.

Your dcs are innocent people...

Well done for not replying

houseworkhater · 07/04/2013 14:18

DD1 seems ok.
Dd2 is very quiet and trying to make sense of it all.
Ds looked ill and pale yesterday, he keeps saying he is ok. I asked him if he wanted to go with his dad to take dd2 but he said no.

OP posts:
SundaeGirl · 07/04/2013 14:23

Can you all go to the cinema this evening (or similar take-mind-off trip)?

Mimishimi · 07/04/2013 14:28

I think Leavenheath is on to it. The OW probably is partnered or possibly she didn't realise that your H was planning to leave you and isn't ready for him to move in as yet. If you are able to find out who her partner is, you should be telling them ASAP. Quite possibly she is the partner of someone closely involved with the band ( either a member or crew) and he's afraid of the fallout with the rest of the band. He should not have the luxury of thinking this will all go according to his or their plans.

ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 07/04/2013 14:34

He should not have the luxury of thinking this will all go according to his or their plans.

This.

MadBraLady · 07/04/2013 14:37

I second SundaeGirl's suggestion. You're doing great with the No Contact, House. Please, please give this midlife crisis loser, his OW, her possible relationship and his "band" as little headspace as humanly possible over the next few days as you recover from the shock and support your DC.

ProphetOfDoom · 07/04/2013 14:55

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 07/04/2013 14:56

Shock Sad Angry

No advice to offer that hasn't already been given but he has treated you so shabbily what a letdown: another selfish "I deserve to be happy and to hell with anyone else" mid-life crisis fuckwit.

I wish you luck and from your posts think you will get on fabulously.

DontmindifIdo · 07/04/2013 15:25

The innocent person in all this is you!!! His panicking sounds like she's got a partner and while it was fun for her for a bit, to suddenly lose everything to be with a middle aged bloke who's got 3 DCs to pay for and more importantly, a wife not a partner - so will take half the assets as well as child maintenance, suddenly he does'nt look like a good package compared to what she'll be sacrificing. She doesn't even know if he'll stick around for her, or if he'll just screw up her relationship and then she'll have to fend for herself.

Oh yes, refusing to engage is good. Let them panic. I bet she's cutting contact and running scared.

cjel · 07/04/2013 16:07

I would say buy your favourite foods, play favourite radio/tv fill your house with things that make you happy. Def new bedroom/bedding. And don't waste one minute of your life on this OW. Focus on you , moving forward and your future. 'They' are nothing to you and you will feel much better if you don't dwell on them and give them 'you' to discuss.

carlywurly · 07/04/2013 16:11

I'm so sorry this has happened to you. My xh followed the script also, it is vile beyond belief. They are so predictable it's unbelievable.

I think that given ow appears to have a young baby, his weirdness started last year, and shes discussing breastfeeding with him, I would be asking some strongly worded questions about when their affair started. You need to know how involved he is.

You will be happier without this idiot, really you will. It's just a horribly painful path to tread in the early stages.

Angelico · 07/04/2013 17:12

So sorry OP. At least you can see the twat in all his worthless glory. Take care of yourself x

houseworkhater · 07/04/2013 19:33

Hi all,

Once again thanks for all your help and support.

I have done some digging, honestly I am starting to think that I might be good at setting up my own private eye business, and he first text ow on New Years eve. Band played the night before and he messaged her around lunchtime new years eve.

Band played N Y E and myself and kids went to my friends.

He was all for coming to my friends after the gig but suddenly didn't.

I brought this up the other day as it had registered in my mind for some reason. Claimed to have gone to band members and just changed his mind about coming.
Anyhow straight after texting me and saying he was on his way, he text her and never arrived at either my friends or home in time before I went to bed.

All clear now.

I'm leaving the thread.

Once again thanks for the advice without critising me.

I honestly thought that he would never, ever do this.

He asked for a reconsiliation this morning.

I have not responded.

Now I know all the signs and feel better than I did a few days ago.

OP posts:
Gigondas · 07/04/2013 19:36

All the best hw - stay strong and wishing you all the best for you and dc.

MadBraLady · 07/04/2013 19:47

All the best house. You deserve better.

cjel · 07/04/2013 20:15

All the best and if you do reconcile. Make him go to counselling, maybe together, and don't let him move back until you have worked on this for several months. Look after yourself.xx

DixieD · 07/04/2013 20:24

Be careful with a reconciliation. She has spooked and has probably dumped him. Don't rush into anything.