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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Wondering Where The Spring For Their Boing Is!

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Mouseface · 24/03/2013 12:23

Hi I'm Mouse

One of the Brave Babes on the Bus, a Bus full of different posters, some who drink more than they'd like to and are trying to stop, some who don't drink at all now, and some who are somewhere in the middle. :)

There's no judging here, no finger pointing, no rejection, just pure, unconditional, (occasionally tough), love and empathy.

We all share stories of how we got here, to have our seat on the Bus, looking for our own personal sobriety, our own personal happiness. Sometimes we talk about other things too, you know, like cake, cheese Wink and even day to day life, life that can lead us to breaking point......... lead us to hit rock bottom.

So, why not come say hi, take a seat, post, lurk, whatever suits you :)

This is our latest journey with a link to others

And this is the reason we're ALL here, the first ever thread

Hope to see you soon :)

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kateissotired · 27/03/2013 12:45

Hello all. I went to the alcohol counsellor yesterday, it was really helpful. We went through my relationship with alcohol and it was a real eye opener. Also tried to go through my triggers to drink, which took a while...

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FuzzyInTheMorning · 27/03/2013 13:30

I'm 38 so hopefully not menopause! Got my first grey hair yesterday which shocked me as I still act like a binge drinking teenager. Saw my counsellor today and told her I have an alcohol problem. Going to tell my DH later. Fed up of not remembering how evenings end. The sweats are so bad, hopefully they'll be going soon! Small price to pay for getting my health back though x

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determinedma · 27/03/2013 14:19

quick wave to all through the blizzards.....

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curryeater · 27/03/2013 14:36

How was your brother last night, ma?

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babyjane1 · 27/03/2013 14:41

purple just want to send you a hug cos you deserve one x x x x

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determinedma · 27/03/2013 19:26

Not entirely sure curry don't know if I'm looking for things which aren't there, or beginning to spot a familiar pattern.....

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ohcluttergotme · 27/03/2013 19:34

Hi babes, hope everyones managing through the freezing cold & no ones suffering too badly with the snow. Purple thats amazing about Libby, hope this all works out. Your poor little boy with his sore skin, hope he gets something soon. I know when my ds was really little he had a horrible rash & kept getting fobbed off with all sorts of rubbish that didn't work. He then got a really strong steroid which did the trick but think a lot of the time the gps don't really know what spots/rashes are so don't know how to treat?
Well done all babes on beating off the ww & wishing strength to those trying.
I've got a party on Saturday night, I really don't want to go but it's a neighbour I like & don't want to let her down. I just want to stay in my safe little bubble away from booze!
I'm trying to finish my Allen Carr in time for Saturday & hoping this will miraculously enable me to go to party , have a good time & realise I can do this without booze!! Confused

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determinedma · 27/03/2013 21:36

Quiet on here.
mouse are you OK?

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Mouseface · 27/03/2013 22:31

Evening, tis me, Mouse

Lots going on with me but I'll catch up on all of that tomorrow.

Hey Fuzzy/Lola, welcome back lovely :)

Raw post alert -

For you and those who are worried about the GP and what they can reveal, then please, please stop. They only ever want to help and if you are drinking too much and driving your children to school the next day, or yourself to work, then they're doing the right thing IMVHO.

Don't get me wrong, I've driven to school pissed from the night before, taking DD in the car, only around the corner etc... Hmm it was only down the road, we were okay........ right?

Thing is, if you crash, of course you won't, but if you did, and killed a child, your child, another person's child, another person, how much worse would that be than not having a that extra drink tonight or tomorrow? Why is that worth it? I'm sorry to seem arsey and cruel but wake up and see what drinking does to you. Not just you but those around you. My dad used to drive us pissed from the night before, just like me.

Almost everyone lies to their GP about how much they drink, at first at least, at the first appointment and maybe for a while longer after that too......... it's fear, it's the shame. It's the failure, the pitying looks you think you're going to get, the 'what has it got to do with you?' feelings.

The self defence, the self preservation........ it all matters.

Well, so do YOU! YOU matter, YOUR life matters, YOU have people who love YOU, need YOU, want YOU. In whatever form, it is there.

Your GP has an legal obligation to disclose your records if required but ONLY if you agree to it with things like medicals for jobs, insurance for driving etc.

For those who are worried, then please, take some time and look HERE PLEASE

If you really, honestly want to stop what you do night after night, (or day) the abuse of your body, the lies, deceit, the pain, the hurt, the denial, the wondering why, the feeling ever so worthless, so wrong, so cheated.

Life is short, life is fucking hard, life is cruel and mean and takes a bloody good smack at you when you really don't deserve it. You strive to provide, you try to get beyond, past, through, around the anger, the disappointment of another day wasted, wondering, thinking, scared to say anything to anyone.

Life is too short to worry about the small mindedness of others. Set your stride, make it strong, make it count. Make it yours.

If you believe that you can stop the torment, the pain and the sorrow, then why not start today? Tomorrow or the next day, but soon.

We are all so alive, so needy, so desperate to be happy and healthy. Let's start taking the control back from the other things in our lives - the gas bill, the car battery or MOT, the disappointing school report, the feckless fathers, the pain that some of us go though.

I'm sorry for the long waffle but life is too short, life is precious. Life is yours to take if you want to have it. I know that sounds petty, it's not, it's that easy once you strip away the shit that is clouding your sight just now.

We're all here for you, new or old Babes, we're a team, you can rely on us, we will hold your hands.

I need to go. Tomorrow is a whole new day. Be safe and be kind to yourselves xxxxxxxxxxx

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ohcluttergotme · 28/03/2013 06:04

Morning babes. Great post mouse. Hope things not too hard for you all just now. When I see all the snow down south I keep hoping you & Nemo are managing ok as know this weather is not good for you both.
Stay safe babes x

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babyjane1 · 28/03/2013 09:37

Good morning, it is not often I can ever say the weather in Scotland is milder than the South but today it is!!! On day 4 and have a pounding headache today, since I've not been drinking I'm having horrendous nightmares which are leaving me exhausted in the morning but I'm sure it's all part of the process. Even in a few short days my oldest dd is looking at me with less of a snarl and my body has been spared at least 6 bottles so far and drinking water by the litre. I still look horrendous, can anyone confirm when the aesthetic benefits start to show? X x x

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Mouseface · 28/03/2013 09:51

Morning, tis me, Mouse

Blush

Sorry about that rant last night, I was a little fired up after seeing a 'friend' who constantly goes on about how she can't wait to get home each night from school after picking her child up to have a drink after such a hard day at work and then having to look after her two boys..... it's so hard for her, etc etc etc.

I have all the time in the world for those who have a tough time of it, those who work, raise a family, do the school run, do all you can to make ends meet but this particular person managed to push my buttons for purely selfish reasons.

Nemo starts half days in preschool after Easter (going from full 3 times a week to half days every day and I have GOT TO LEAVE HIM) to mirror the days he'll do in September once he starts at his primary school.

This person was moaning about how each day having to cope with her boys at home, she's got lots of support, family, friends, DP etc.... is just a PITA and wine cures all.

I'm sorry, my post wasn't meant to upset, more point out how I was feeling I think reading back.

Hope you are all okay Brave Babes.

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So, last night I went to see a private physio and he's told me after an hour of tests and examinations, that my pelvis is twisted and that I have one leg 2.5cm longer than the other because of how I compensate when walking due to the pain. He's recommended an insole for my left leg, in the hope that I'll straighten up a little as my posture is dreadful too.

He said that he wants to get my core as strong as possible to support my spine, and try to keep me out of a wheelchair for as long as possible. He also said that if I had my spine fused once, I'd spend the rest of my days having it fused again and again because of how DDD works. (Degenerative Disc Disease)

So there you go, that's where I'm up to. I promise not to post when emotional like that again. Sorry Babes.

Off to make Easter masks, eggs, and chicks at a craft morning at school soon. See you later Babes, stay brave Smile

We've had around 4ft of snow over the last few days here and I'm bored of not being able to walk on the pavements because the stupid council decided to plough the roads each time it snowed, sending the snow into the pavements, which is now frozen solid. Poor DH has had to carry Nemo to school every day!!

I'm really going now, stay safe xxxxx

Thank you Clutter - will PM you later :) x

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obrigada · 28/03/2013 10:12

Mouse, post away, whether it's from a good or a bad place, we are here for you just as you are always here for us.
Baby well done on Day 4, you seem really determined this time, go you:)
Morning Clutter:)

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Lemonylemon · 28/03/2013 10:14

Morning All!

Purps - re. your son - does this ring any bells? "Non-bullous impetigo - initially causes red sores usually around the nose and mouth but sometimes on the arms and legs. The red sores quickly burst leaving a layer of yellow or brown coloured crust on the skin, which turns into a red mark before disappearing."


Mouse My sister has DDD. She went to see a podiatrist and has a lift in one of her shoes. I've had a twisted pelvis which I've had untwisted, but I'm just in the sciatica stage, nothing, nothing, nothing like you. My sister is in constant pain as well, but has had a lot of relief from the lift. She hasn't had the spine fuse, just cortisone injections. I liked your post from last night, actually. I've often found that its those people with pretty much nothing to complain about who complain the most...... Anyway, little Nemo starting preschool sessions on his own. That's going to be a big jump. I hope that it works out ok.

Fuzzy the perimenopause can last for years.... Just sayin' Wink

kate that's good progress.

Wishing you all a peaceful and sober Easter. I shall be relaxing with the babies (ha!) and talking myself onto the bus again....

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aliasjoey · 28/03/2013 10:18

mouse I loved your 'emotional' post. It says what lots of people might be thinking, or not wanting to think about too deeply, the short-sharp-shock is what we need sometimes.

It must be frustrating listening to your 'friend' but read your own advice - life's too precious to be spending your time dwelling on someone who isn't worth it. Think of her as toxic alcohol - don't let her take up your valuable time/emotions. Imagine she's a bottle of vodka, cork her up, put her in the back of the cupboard and do something more interesting. Grin

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curryeater · 28/03/2013 10:26

Mouse, I liked your post last night too.

All good here. Busy but now I have something to listen to it on, have gone back to the mindfulness book I posted upthread, and even just a few days has really helped me clear my head.

have a good day all

xxx

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kateissotired · 28/03/2013 10:44

I am on day 5 now, and I have never been so tired. I went for a meal last night and had soft drinks, got some funny looks and but did it. This is alien for me.

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kateissotired · 28/03/2013 12:03

I am sorry if I am using this thread as a diary. Mouse, my friend has DDD and swimming helps her enormously to strengthen her core and alexander technique has helped to improve her posture which has helped to manage the pain.

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Mouseface · 28/03/2013 13:17

Thanks all :)

Katie - YAYAYAYAY for day 5!! Thank you for telling me about your poor friend, it's nice to know I'm not alone in my quest to stay wheelchair free for as long as possible!! I've not heard or been told anything about the Alexander Technique so will Google that soon!!

I have been told by the physio last night, GPs, pain clinics and back surgeon not to swim, I have other issues too, Facet Joint Syndrome, SPD from being pg with Nemo so now my pelvic halves are twisted, the left side 'leans' forward, they're in opposite directions and I have 3 herniated discs so 'swimming' as such is out. Sad

I had three wonderful years of hydrotherapy but there's only so much that can do and Nemo's needs always come before mine I'm afraid, so I had to give that up as I couldn't get there. :)



However, I've just joined a health club with a warmer than average pool, sauna and steam room, with a jacuzzi which will help no end. Heat really helps me so the end of Winter (some time in bloody April according to the BBC weather nobbers) can't come soon enough!

I can use the pool floating in it, using foam supports and carefully walking in the warm water, but because of the severity of the DDD, the lack of support my muscles currently give my back, lumbar region and pelvis, if my bottom sinks (which it does) I'd be putting too much pressure on that area. Does that make sense? :)

We're starting from scratch so I have to tighten my lower abs as many times a day as I can and try to hold my belly in when I bend. The physio I saw last night taped me up again, with k-tape, but the middle strip came off last night. Luckily I have some more from years ago so I can just replace it until I see him again in 2 weeks. I honestly didn't think he'd be able to help but if he can strengthen my core, then that will help so much, the pressure will be less on my hips, pelvis, knees, ankles everything, it all has a knock on affect.

Joey - thank you :) you are, of course, right xx

Lemony - they did try to 'untwist' my pelvis when Nemo was younger but failed, they're not going to try again because it's too much for my body to take currently. Who knows what technology we'll see in the future? :) I had injections into the spine last year, anaesthetic and steroids but it failed. Sad the pain was excruciating. The poor nurse was holding my hand and I swear I cracked a few bones! I'm glad your sister is getting relief. I'm going to give it a shot with the lift, see if we can get it on the NHS or via our healthcare, that's what it's for after all!!

Obrigada - thanks xx

Another epic waffle from me! Grin

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Lemonylemon · 28/03/2013 13:25

Mouse Oh yes, the Alexander Technique is supposed to be really helpful, as is Pilates..... My sister said the pain of the injections was excrutiating too.

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KoalaKube · 28/03/2013 13:55

Hi Babes i have been quietly lurking in the background recently - I keep up to date with you all most days, so am thinking of you all. Thanks for the name check. The bus is one of my stepping stones to sobriety, but I don't feel comfortable offering advice - so forgive me if it appears that I'm not contributing as much as I should.

Life is good - I'm now over 3 months sober - looking back to those dark days at the end of last year (which I do often as its best not to forget and get complacent) I'm getting to the place I wanted to be and back to the person I remember before the wine witch crept in and took over.

Just enroled on the EA/Get up to date again with office skills course - which starts next week. I have to do this so that I can move back to London for a while to support my daughter who is not getting on with Dad and his family (I did warn her but love her she wanted to try), so I don't want her to mess up A levels next term so its best that I move up for a year or so until she's finished, which means good job required, new home, etc etc.

It's a new start and I'm looking forward to it. House nearly finished decorating so I can rent it out, and I'm working on a new glam london look for myself -instead of the old barbour and wellies country style.

Still attending AA and finally actually speaking (a bit!!) but gaining something from it every time - haven't fully embraced the 'programme' but I'm working on working on it.

Happy Easter All

Koala

I WILL NOT BE DRINKING TODAY

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obrigada · 28/03/2013 14:47

Wow Koala, over 3 months sober, huge huge huge well done:) What a brave thing you are planning to do, hats off to you!

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babyjane1 · 28/03/2013 15:34

koala I remember those dark days you went through and honestly you seem like a totally different person. Silly as it sounds I'm proud of you and have huge admiration for how you've turned this all around and all on your own, you are an awesome lady!!!! kate use this thread in any way that can help you, I'm right behind you (on day4) and it helps me knowing we are going through the same thing so keep going girl, I'm right behind you x x x

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aliasjoey · 28/03/2013 16:41

Well done koala 3 months is brilliant!

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jesuswhatnext · 28/03/2013 17:42

BOING!! happy easter babes! Grin sorry not to name check and rush in and out - am having very exciting time work wise, have an event tonight, launch of s/s collections wooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

love to you ALL!!!!!

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