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To get annoyed at having to prompt dh for some money?

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WomanCalledAlice · 01/03/2013 15:57

I work FT and get paid monthly, dh gets paid weekly. My wage pays the bills/clothes the kids need etc. On a Friday when dh is paid he transfers money straight into my account for groceries. Today he transferred £100 so I went to Tesco and spent £70 on food for the week and put the other £30 in the meter for electric.

Now it's my friends birthday today and I'd like to buy her something nice and also my other friend had a baby on Monday so would have liked to buy her a little gift.

Every week it's more or less the same, he transfers money over but I just never have enough. When I ask him for more money he usually says "did you spent the whole £100"? But he always transfers more over its just the fact he questions me and I don't think I should have to ask.

I'm not out buying luxuries for myself (I wish) I'd just like a little bit of cash in my purse. AIBU?

I almost feel guilty for asking him Confused

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blacktaildog · 01/03/2013 22:53

Shock that is not nice or fair he's having more money than you.

all our money goes into one pot, which all bills etc come out of, then we both have a equal amount of spending money to spend on whatever we like

works very well for us

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/03/2013 22:54

Please make sure your eye is OK. Get it looked at.

MammaTJ · 01/03/2013 22:55

Well that was more interesting than expected.

My DP and me have a great arrangement. We have a joint account which his wages get paid into, I have my own account ,which my wages and tax credits get paid into.

I am responsible for the bills, but also have access to all the money at all times. My DP does not necessarily have this!! Grin

WomanCalledAlice · 01/03/2013 22:58

I'm not too comfortable calling the police, 2 of his close friends are police officers at my local station. I know it would serve him right for his friends to see what he's like but I don't know, it's a small community chances are one or both may be on duty. I know I'm a total coward.

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WomanCalledAlice · 01/03/2013 23:03

Thanks MrsTP, I will.

Thanks everyone for all advice, much appreciated.

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AnneofGreenFables · 01/03/2013 23:04

I know it's weird and a bit scary the first time you call the police on your DP/ DH but hopefully you'll find they'll help you by making him leave so at least you can have some space.

I was relieved how seriously they took it when I rang them about XH, seriously it was the best move I made. Brought it home that his behaviour was not only unacceptable but downright criminal.

Get him gone. Please Thanks

expatinscotland · 01/03/2013 23:08

All the more reason to call them!

You need to take a photo of your eye and get it looked at. Corneal abrasions are not like normal scratches.

WomanCalledAlice · 01/03/2013 23:10

Can they make him leave? If he says it was an accident, will they believe me, it's my word against his.

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WomanCalledAlice · 01/03/2013 23:13

I've taken a picture expat. The annoying thing is I wear glasses I had taken them off to put moisturiser on just before he chucked the card. They would have protected my eye against flying missiles.

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blacktaildog · 01/03/2013 23:17

i would personally call the police, its the only way to get him out

so sorry this has happened to you op
you do not deserve this

i am worried what he could do to you, please call the police and get your eye seen asap too

expatinscotland · 01/03/2013 23:20

Yes, they can make him leave. Even if he says it was an accident. Wouldn't they all? We got into a row and I accidentally pushed her.

zipzap · 01/03/2013 23:21

After reading the start of this thread I was going to suggest looking at the moneysavingexpert site - they have some really good budget planner information to work out easily monthly budgets and to help you see what you are spending and when/where, which is a good starting point.

I think also if your dh is not buying food or doing the supermarket shop or buying the clothes and the school uniforms etc etc then he probably doesn't realise quite how much all those things have gone up by in the last few years as there are just a few odd things that have managed to come down in price or stay ticking along the same and if they see those it's easy to conveniently pretend think that everything else is the same too.

If I'm out shopping with dh (not a natural shopper at the best of times!) he is always horrified by how much things cost - he think he should be able to get a weekly shop, a new interview suit and a meal out for a fiver and still have 3'n'6 left over! he does realise he is bad though and it is a long running joke, plus he is happy to pay up for things at today's prices without question when it comes to opening his wallet.

but just a couple of examples - about 5 years ago in asda I could get a box of their cheapy tissues for 25p. Today they cost almost 70p - which is almost 3 times the price. Petrol - 5 years ago I could fill my car up for about £40, now it's almost £60. And whilst it's technically possible to buy 8 burgers for a pound still - they are now the basic value ones that are made of all sorts of dodgy horse meat and fat and reclaimed meat sludge rather than ones that have proper minced beef in that provide some nutritional value. Downshifting products is all well and good for a while but there comes a point where you can't do it any further without risk to your health or sanity.

OK so I can get an all singing all dancing latest whizzy flat screen tv for a hundred or two less than the same thing would have cost last year, but as I don't buy those every week or even every year or two, I'm not actually saving that much; the things that are going up in price are a much bigger percentage of my overall total shopping basket and it is rocketing in price. And of course bills have been rocketing too.

Which means that if he has been giving you £100 the whole time that you have been together, your purchasing power with that £100 each is diminishing week on week Sad and so he should at least have been upping it each year to keep you able to buy the same amount of stuff - and increasing it as I'm sure that as your kids are getting older they need more stuff - they will eat more, clothes get more expensive, they just become more expensive as they start to have hobbies or do sport etc etc.

It's still probably worth doing a budget with the help of the mse stuff - it will help you to see how much you have been spending and how much he hasn't. I bet if you were to ask him, your 'd'h would think that you are both paying pretty much the same amount towards the family expenditure and has no clue how much things actually cost. Much easier for him to pretend think that and say that you are frittering the rest of your own money away than actually face up to how much modern day life costs and have to give a much bigger chunk of money into the pot and have less to fritter away himself.

Maybe if you are able to talk to him about it at some point it will be a way of talking without him kicking off as it will be a neutral independent way of looking at expenditure and he won't be able to pretend any more about the money situation.

or if you are managing to talk about this and he is being reasonable, point out that if you asked him to transfer all his money over to you, apart from the £30 for childcare and any other costs you know he has (say a bus pass or canteen lunch or things that are really regular things) and he had to ask you for an extra £30 here or £50 there every time he fancied a take away or buying a new shirt then he would hate it with a vengeance. So why does he think that situation is unfair when you would obviously give him the money when he asked for it... And when it is what he is expecting you to do at the moment.

I hope that you manage to sort something out that brings you peace of mind with regard to your relationship and your financial stability both in the immediate future and in the longer term. And I hope that your eye stops hurting soon - do get it looked at if it hurts for too long! take care of yourself - have some Thanks and Wine and some un-mn hugs in the meantime.

anonacfr · 01/03/2013 23:23

The accident was hitting your eye. Aggressively throwing a credit card at your face was deliberate.

blacktaildog · 01/03/2013 23:24

it, is very worrying, that as soon as you tried to talk to him about things, he just flipped out, almost as if to say, don't you dare question me or i will be really horrible to you, to try and make you fear bringing up issues with him.
he sounds very controlling to me

this plus the cheating plus the financial abuse, you derserve so much more.

expatinscotland · 01/03/2013 23:26

zipzap, please read the rest of this thread. This person is abusive.

PureQuintessence · 01/03/2013 23:27

You need to get your eye seen to. The card could have ruptured your retina, and you might need antibiotic ointment for your eye.

He is financially and emotionally abusive. Can you get to A&E? You can tell them your h threw a credit card in your face when you asked him for money.

LayMizzRarb · 01/03/2013 23:33

If he earns £4 an hour above minimum wage, and works 15 hours a day, he must be rolling in it.
I'm really curious (nosey) what work does he do? - starting at 4am and finishing in the evening

WomanCalledAlice · 01/03/2013 23:34

Zip zap, thanks for the link. I'll have a look tomorrow. Always looking for ways to cut down expenditure.

Blacktaildog,, no matter what I speak to him about he snaps. When I met him all those years ago I was a very open person about my feelings, now sometimes I think I'm not capable of having any feelings good or bad. I feel I can't talk to him about anything. He's become unapproachable.

He's gone, told him I was going to call police and he said "for fuck sake, I'll go then, see how you manage with fk all money for 2 weeks"

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expatinscotland · 01/03/2013 23:36

'He's gone, told him I was going to call police and he said "for fuck sake, I'll go then, see how you manage with fk all money for 2 weeks" '

Good riddance to an abusive fuckwit who'd leave his kids with FA money for a fortnight out of spite.

Get your eye seen to! It might be nothing, but if it is, you really need AB drops for the eye.

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/03/2013 23:37

That parting shot showed his true colours. There is no misinterpreting that as anything other than controlling you with money and punishing you with money. That = financial abuse. No other words for it.

blacktaildog · 01/03/2013 23:37

i'm so sorry alice, you've done well to get him out, now the trick is to keep him out.
do you want to get rid of him for good?

blacktaildog · 01/03/2013 23:41

when you seperated before, what did you need to do? i'm guessing get benefits sorted, is that something you could look into tomorrow?
i think you said you was better of when you were seperated?
and you will be better off in so many ways
i would also ask your parents for help, if you were my dd, i would love to help you back on the straight and narrow, i will try and help you, if you want me too.

IneedAsockamnesty · 01/03/2013 23:47

And now you have his true colours.

What a wanker.

Yes the police will take it seriously his friends will not be able to fob you off, even if he says it was an accident it won't matter it would not have connected with your eye if it wasn't thrown at you. I'm Just glad he didnt have anything heavy in his hand.

WomanCalledAlice · 01/03/2013 23:50

Blacktaildog, that is so kind. Thank you. After tonight's events I can't be with him. Last time when we split I worked 20 hours per week and I got help with rent payments and a council tax reduction. I work 40 hours now so I will manage fine, just need to tighten the purse strings.I'll be a whole lot happier anyway. I just need to stay strong and stick to my guns because I've realised he has grind me down, thinking I need him when I don't.

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