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WarmFuzzyFun · 23/02/2013 17:27

Here it is...

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VelvetSpoon · 24/02/2013 00:03

Lubey, maybe see how it goes with TT, no need to make a decision just yet, perhaps would be nice to have him sort of in the background for a while...?

Western, so happy you got your conversation and a good outcome. Glad you said all that you needed to and are happy with the response you got too :)

lubeybooby · 24/02/2013 00:12

Velvet yeah I'm kind of thinking the same I think. I'll see him at least once more I think and we'll see what happens from there.

ChooChooLaverne · 24/02/2013 00:34

Just got back from first date (in 11 years). Lovely, lovely man.

mercury7 · 24/02/2013 00:47

I think sugar baby would be the closest female equivalent to a toyboy, even then a sugar baby exchanges sex for money & gifts

I dont think it's common for a 'toy boy' to benefit from the arrangement..then we'd call him a cocklodger wouldnt we.

these things are not really symmetrical Confused

Scrazy · 24/02/2013 00:53

Choochoo, any chemistry as well as loveliness?

mercury7 · 24/02/2013 00:59

Juliette ' I think the name for predatory younger men would be 'stud' '
possibly, but I think delusional is often more accurate:o

Flipper924 · 24/02/2013 08:01

Good Morning, Thread!

OWW, that's brilliant, so happy for you that the conversation was had, and you are now on a more stable footing.

Lubey, hope you're feeling ok in yourself. I think it must be hard to decide about TT at the moment, he's been playing a supportive role for the last couple of weeks, so chemistry may have been altered. Giving it a chance seems reasonable in the circumstances.

Are you off on a date today, Ike? Have the nerves turned into excitement yet?

Choochoo, have you made plans to meet again!

KinNora · 24/02/2013 08:12

Good morning everyone, it appears that I've caused offence, which was entirely unintentional ( I had forgotten the * * *gar hooha from the other day) the word was used mainly because I liked the alliteration with 'catnip' .
I am contrite and will never use the < makes slightly camp feline clawing gesture accompanied by a 'rarrrr' > word again.

Excellent news OWW and ChooChoo, I'm off to sit in a corner and think about what I've done.

OhWesternWind · 24/02/2013 08:13

Choochoo do you think you'll see him again? Glad it went so well.

Feeling so sad today about my dad, but there's a big part of me inside that's grinning fit to burst about LM. He was just lovely to me last night, really kind and understanding and listening to all my nonsense. Can't believe I cried on him like that, got horrible puffy eyes today. I never cry in front of anyone. Anyway, I know where we are with each other, which is in a really good place. I don't think he's suddenly going to find it easy to say how he feels, but he feels it so that will do for now. I'm feeling so much more confident about him, really looking forward to how things might go over the next few months.

Day out today to take dcs to see ex's family. Whoopee. Actually it's not that bad.

Think I'm going to start another thread somewhere about my dad as he's really on my mind at the moment. I can't believe he's been gone twenty years.

WarmFuzzyFun · 24/02/2013 08:57

OWW, I am so glad that things have become clearer and know where you are with LM.

I miss my mum at odd moments (very intense longing), would love a hug from her. I am welling up just writing ^ Sad so I completely understand how you are feeling.

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OhWesternWind · 24/02/2013 09:08

Thank you WFF, that's just how I feel. Thought it would be better after twenty years but nothing can fill that hole.

The thing with LM is that I know and understand why he's like he is, and now I know that he loves me and isn't just using me for sex, or as a stopgap, or whatever, I'm okay with that. I'd love all the romance and stuff but that is going to be down the road a bit. He's coming to trust me and realise that I'm not a liar, not a cheat, not just after his money etc etc. We're both in our forties and there are hang overs for both of us from our last relationships, but I really feel that we can work this out. I think I've got something really good with this man.

WarmFuzzyFun · 24/02/2013 09:16

It sounds lovely O, it really is what we all want, the letting down of barriers and being able to see a future with someone else. I wish you every good thing with him OWW. (Please don't leave usSmile, we need you)

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ChooChooLaverne · 24/02/2013 09:17

Morning all. Ow, my head. Drinking on an empty stomach is not a good idea, especially for a lightweight like me.

I can't believe how scared I was about going on last night's date - think I'd built it up into such a big thing in my head because after all the last person I went on a date with was my ex-H. Anyway, date was a really lovely guy and I haven't laughed so much in ages. He was a real gentleman (not something I've ever experienced) and wouldn't let me pay for anything and just said that the evening was his treat. Tall, handsome and interesting. But, I'm not sure about chemistry. Still, if nothing else I think I've probably made a new friend.

I will definitely see him again and see if anything comes of it. He's texted this morning and has mentioned doing something with less alcohol next time.

OWW - sounds like your chat with LM went exactly how it should have done. It's so good to be able to open up to someone and trust that they can cope with it. I think I'd be exactly the same as you about being scared though - my ex always got cross with me if I ever dared cry in front of him and I've definitely built up a bit of a barrier about showing 'weakness'. But LM sounds very kind.

DS is due home in about an hour so need to try and make myself look more human - don't want to scare him!

WarmFuzzyFun · 24/02/2013 09:20

'but nothing can fill that hole. ' Because they were good parents and good people, who loved us. And we loved them back like only a child can.

I will go and find your thread OWW

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KirstyWirsty · 24/02/2013 09:23

Morning!! Just marking my spot .. Had a lovely first night in my new place with Mr Cheeky on Friday .. He made dinner .. Although we didn't get to eat until nearly midnight as we were busy christening rooms .. Kitchen first!! Grin

He is absolutely amazing .. I told him that I love him .. I am a bit scared about the whole thing ( although it was easier because he has already told me more than once that he's in love with me)

ike1 · 24/02/2013 10:06

Morning my little lovers! Sorry about the use of Toy boy last night.

Off to town, in a bit, to carry on the search for an eye bag concealer that will make me look like I have slept. Laters, dudes and dudettes.

ike1 · 24/02/2013 10:08

Flip....I will try to get excited....but feeling the inevitable doom about it...sigh..

ChooChooLaverne · 24/02/2013 10:12

ike - let us know about the eye bag concealer if you find a good one - was horrified when looked in mirror last night at extent of bags/wrinkles.

AndLibbyMakesThree · 24/02/2013 10:34

Does anyone know any good make-up for sensitive skin? (I have dry skin, eczema, rosacea ... the list seems endless). I haven't worn much make-up in the past, but I seem to have aged hugely in the last few months, and don't think I can get away with it any longer.

I also found my first grey hair this week. It was surprisingly upsetting.

AndLibbyMakesThree · 24/02/2013 10:48

OWW, I'm so glad LM phoned and that all is well. It's made me feel so happy reading your update this morning,

Lubey, thinking of you and glad you seem to be feeling just slightly better.

ChooChoo, sometimes chemistry takes a while to develop. When I first met Mr C, I liked him and found him interesting, but wasn't sure if the chemistry/attraction was really there. Then something indefinable changed... When's your second date going to be?

mercury7 · 24/02/2013 10:50

Libby, I'm sure you'll find plenty of recommendations in the beauty section, I have quite dry/sensitive skin, quite like bobby brown, generally I wear layer upon layer of foundation & sunscreen combined with large dark glasses to prevent squinting (gives you wrinkles)
I maintain that it provides a protective layer, keeps out the wind and the UV light :o

find pure potions skin salvation good for eczema, although I keep hydrocortisone on hand in case of a really bad flare up

Snapespeare · 24/02/2013 10:56

oww I am absolutely delighted for you! Glad the chat went well. :)

I'm having a couple of days of not first-contacting nameless. I am creating a space in which to be missed..and keeping busy elsewhere.

libby I found my first grey hair when I was thirty (while pregnant with DS1. I do not regard this as coincidence) dyed it dark brown for years, am now going for very light blonde highlights around face to cultivate growing it out to badger-wings, which I have convinced myself are stylish. Make up wise I generally only use base, bit of highlighter, very light eye make up and mascara. In an ideal situation I use Chanel vitaluminere, but have emergency everyday max factor 3in1. If you're not used to wearing much make-up I'd very strongly suggest a trip to a major department store and book an appointment with a name up counter of your choice - I do really like Chanel, it is hideously hideously expensive...but they managed to cover my roscea without leaving me looking clown-like.

VelvetSpoon · 24/02/2013 11:05

I found my first grey hair when I was 19 Shock I have 100s of the things now...

Choochoo sounds like a good first date. Sometimes you need to give these things a little time to build, as Libby said.

Western so pleased for you :) I understand the other stuff though, having lost both my parents, will have a look for your other thread.

I had a dream about Cuthbert last night (clearly for my brain it is not enough that I spend all day thinking about him Hmm ). I text him last night, he hasn't replied yet (of course!). I really hope I'm not on a completely different page to him about all this.

Good luck to those with dates today. I am helping my friend with wedding admin...probably the closest I will ever come to planning a wedding!

lubeybooby · 24/02/2013 11:28

Oh god grey hairs. I found my first proper on at about 26. They were not really noticeable or lots of them til I turned 30 though. Now I just do my roots every 4/6 weeks and redye totally every 3 months ish so so I don't have to be confronted with their glaring obviousness anymore. Sod that!

KinNora · 24/02/2013 11:29

Snape, there are rumours that Bourjois cosmetics are very similar to Chanel, Healthy Mix foundation is supposed to be very similar to Viatalumiere ( can't say myself as both Chanel & Bourjois are too yellow based for me ).

Good luck, Ike and how lovely for all those who are loved up, you deserve it.
I'm travelling back down south with a very heavy heart as always. Bag o shite.

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