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Silver heart pendant (name change)

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Totallydistraught · 04/01/2013 21:48

You may remember my recent thread about my DH and his female friend and the silver pendant, which went back to the shop. Sadly, and I'm not sure how, things have gone rapidly and horribly downhill and though we tried a few counselling sessions, DH has announced that, according to him, there is not enough left between us to save the marriage. We are living in some sort of horrible limbo, he says he is not seeing anyone else just that, after 4 marriages, he thinks he should be alone. We have a 5 year old daughter, and I have 3 older children from my first marriage, who love him.

Though he won't admit it, I think he is having a delayed stress reaction from 3 awful years of running our own business, plus a recent operation and bereavement. The issues re Caroline seem to have diminished though I suspect she may be in the background. Mostly, I think he just wants to stop the world and get off for a while. He says I tried to control him in the summer when I was worried about Caroline but agrees I don't do that now.

He says he is going nowhere at the moment, he hasn't been doing much freelance work recently so we are under each others feet all the time. I suspect he was hoping to go to his brother's locally but his brother has made it clear he doesn't want him there.

I am hoping if I can just keep everything calm, get him back to work on monday the reality of giving up his entire life will come into focus. I think he is severely depressed but he won't have that, as he is a mental health professional. He has promised me he will go to his GP but has cancelled the appointment. The strain is awful, I have lots of support but at home he virtually ignores me and won't touch me at all. I am heartbroken and terrified.

I can't believe he is planning to leave his child as she is his only one and he adores her.

Any advice?

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AnyFucker · 08/01/2013 11:43

it's not been 10 days, this "situation" has been several months in his making

you have simply chosen denial until now, and boy you are still determined to hang onto it with every shred of your being

you will see this with time

Mu1berryBush · 08/01/2013 11:45

ps, also, what his brothers think is yesterdays fish and chip wrapping.

Start to think of them as x BILS. You don't have to be unpleasant to them! But you do have to realise for your own sake that what they think of the relationship doesn't actually matter in any real way. Even if you were still happy with your h, what your bils make of it all doesn't improve the relationship.

Having the good opinion of your bils is nice I guess. I walked away with my x's entire family demonising me. Other side of the coin but like you I made the mistake of thinking that their opinion, their 'take' on it all mattered. A while later I realised that what these people makde of the relationship or of me mattered far less than zip.

what mattered was that I escaped, strong, sane, content and ready for the rest of my life.

And as I type that i know that it's only been ten days for you.

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:48

It's 10 days since I found out he was finished with the marriage, I am not in denial about that.

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AnyFucker · 08/01/2013 11:51

So you accept your marriage is over, but you don't want him to leave. Why ?

Mu1berryBush · 08/01/2013 11:52

take care of your self totallydistraught. I hope the counsellor makes you feel better. can be like a valve just telling somebody everything! and do tell her everything. x

Mu1berryBush · 08/01/2013 11:53

Half term is a long way away.

AnyFucker · 08/01/2013 11:56

I am sorry to be harsh, love

But I don't think you are protecting yourself, and you can be damn sure he won't. So who is ? Not your family/friends other than on a superficial level. Yes, they are angry for you and devastated at what he is doing. But they go back to their own nuclear families at the end of the day and you are on your own, with this cruel man.

Please, get more proactive.

HappyNewHissy · 08/01/2013 12:22

No-one WANTS the person they are with to leave, not even when you know they have to go, that they are hurting you or could really physically harm you. None of us want that. It's like admitting defeat.

Thing is OP, it's not OUR defeat. He failed you, as he failed his former wives. You are hanging on to the hope that YOU would be the one that succeeded.

But this is not about you, not in the slightest. For some warped reason, this bloke you are married to can't allow himself the luxury of being settled, happy and content. He clearly has self esteem issues and feels unentitled to be happy, so will set about destroying every relationship he has.

The harder you try, the more he will fight to prove himself right.

You can't help him, you can't change him, you can't make the slightest bit of difference. he pressed the Destruct button.

You now have only ONE option, to get yourself and those that depend on you, to safety. His brooding presence in your life is stripping you of dignity, self-esteem and hope.

He needs to get out.

He needed to get out before christmas, last year, and probably before that too, but that is in the past now.

Your H and this Caroline have similar partners in you and her H. You blame HER (your text pre-christmast to tell her to back off) and He blames your H (by telling you that ALL contact from your combined quarter is unwelcome)

You were let down by your H. He's not thinking about HER H.

Caroline did the same to her H, not you. You don't figure in her thoughts at all.

Get your focus right, take control over your life, your home and your dignity.

If you allow him to pollute your environment until he is ready, and her H does the same, then there IS a big change that they are planning this.

So wreck the plans, tell him to go TODAY, that he is being unreasonable and cruel to you by staying and that you deserve some space and peace to work things through.

He needs to go. A decent man would go.

HappyNewHissy · 08/01/2013 12:23

change = chance

apols for typos too.

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Mu1berryBush · 08/01/2013 13:28

They say the best revenge is to live well, and it sounds like bullshit when you're the one who is dealing with betrayal, having been abused/failed/cheated on/let down generally. But years on, I know it's not bullshit. I am capable of being content. I am hardwired all things being well in my life to be HAPPY. my x is not. It can take five years to get to the point where you feel superior again, but although it's not about that, I do feel that now. Hth

Backroomgirl · 08/01/2013 16:07

Op, loads of advice to be proactive here, gotta agree with it! Get your life back. Help him find somewhere to go maybe though as throwing out will traumatise the kids won't it? U really gotta move on then, have some fun if nothing else!!

AnyFucker · 08/01/2013 18:26

how did the counselling go, OP ?

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 19:08

It was good, she says she thinks I am doing well in the circumstances and have capacity for happiness in the future and I came out feeling pretty positive. Then I get home....he is bantering with my 13 yr old DS and all I can think of is the destruction to come. Off to choir tonight, a good sing helps. Then a birthday breakfast in the morning. Trying to keep busy.

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garlicbollocks · 08/01/2013 19:19

Good luck! Glad you're keeping busy ... Is it your birthday?

AnyFucker · 08/01/2013 21:46

Your birthday ? Many happy returns. Let's hope you are in a more peaceful place by the time your next one rolls along. Although of course, you can make sure that is entirely in your own hands.

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 22:03

Not mine, no, one of my girlfriends. But an unexpected invite - so I'm making the most of it!

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AnyFucker · 08/01/2013 22:17

Ah, have a nice time anyway. And what I say still stands Smile

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee · 08/01/2013 23:26

Enjoy the breakfast in the morning. You are going to need your friends now more than ever. Try to forget about all of this while you are there.

Totallydistraught · 09/01/2013 00:12

I will do, thanks. Currently watching DVDs in front of the fire. DH has had rare trip to pub for friend's birthday. Found myself being disappointed when he came back earlier than expected. He and his buddy are currently ensconced in the garage, smoking and drinking whiskey. Think I am the more comfortable!

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Totallydistraught · 09/01/2013 00:14

I have also arranged a weekend away, with a very old and dear friend in Essex this weekend. Feel nervous about being so far away from home, we are in the West Country but think it will give me a bit of time off.

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Totallydistraught · 09/01/2013 00:35

But this is not about you, not in the slightest. For some warped reason, this bloke you are married to can't allow himself the luxury of being settled, happy and content. He clearly has self esteem issues and feels unentitled to be happy, so will set about destroying every relationship he has.

This. Very perceptive!

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GregBishopsBottomBitch · 09/01/2013 00:49

For some warped reason, this bloke you are married to can't allow himself the luxury of being settled, happy and content. He clearly has self esteem issues and feels unentitled to be happy, so will set about destroying every relationship he has.

Totally This is something you should say to him camly DH, Im sad that our marriage is ending, i hope you get the help you need to enable you to stay happy and settled, after me will be your 5th attempt at marriage, i think you punish yourself by ruining things, because you think you dont deserve it, when things were good, they were worth staying together for, i hope you find peace with yourself, it saddens me to say but i think you should move out until we can discuss the finer detail, shall i help you pack your things

badinage · 09/01/2013 01:10

I don't agree with that though.

It makes him sound like a tragic figure who just can't help ruining his own life and everyone else's.

I think this bloke is highly entitled and every time his life gets a bit 'real' or tough, he gives himself the reward of a new love affair and fucks over the last woman he promised was the love of his life.

Low self-esteem my arse.

Totallydistraught · 09/01/2013 01:16

I can see something of both, to be honest.

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GregBishopsBottomBitch · 09/01/2013 01:24

Badinage Either is possible, but the above will atleast give the OP the dignity she deserves. TBH, hes a man-child, who dont like rollercoasters, because the fall always comes after the high, my ex was much the same, happy when it was good, but fuck the world if it got a bit shit.

OP You may love him, but you shouldnt have to live your life waiting for him to grow up or get better, his own brothers are disappointed, he may have another woman or maybe, probably does, because it'll be new and exciting, more than like marriage number 5 will probably go the same way, because hes a child who cant cope with the bad,