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Silver heart pendant (name change)

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Totallydistraught · 04/01/2013 21:48

You may remember my recent thread about my DH and his female friend and the silver pendant, which went back to the shop. Sadly, and I'm not sure how, things have gone rapidly and horribly downhill and though we tried a few counselling sessions, DH has announced that, according to him, there is not enough left between us to save the marriage. We are living in some sort of horrible limbo, he says he is not seeing anyone else just that, after 4 marriages, he thinks he should be alone. We have a 5 year old daughter, and I have 3 older children from my first marriage, who love him.

Though he won't admit it, I think he is having a delayed stress reaction from 3 awful years of running our own business, plus a recent operation and bereavement. The issues re Caroline seem to have diminished though I suspect she may be in the background. Mostly, I think he just wants to stop the world and get off for a while. He says I tried to control him in the summer when I was worried about Caroline but agrees I don't do that now.

He says he is going nowhere at the moment, he hasn't been doing much freelance work recently so we are under each others feet all the time. I suspect he was hoping to go to his brother's locally but his brother has made it clear he doesn't want him there.

I am hoping if I can just keep everything calm, get him back to work on monday the reality of giving up his entire life will come into focus. I think he is severely depressed but he won't have that, as he is a mental health professional. He has promised me he will go to his GP but has cancelled the appointment. The strain is awful, I have lots of support but at home he virtually ignores me and won't touch me at all. I am heartbroken and terrified.

I can't believe he is planning to leave his child as she is his only one and he adores her.

Any advice?

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MumVsKids · 08/01/2013 02:47

Oh op :(

FWIW I did wonder if the brothers would keep it to themselves.

Hope you're ok x

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 03:03

He hasn't got the warm understanding response he was hoping. What on earth did he expect?

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badinage · 08/01/2013 09:36

Your husband knows that his brothers will deduce that he's up to his old tricks again, so that's why he's spitting fury. All the time this was a secret he could kid you that there was no-one else involved, even though by the sounds of it there is a likely suspect who's probably currently wearing a hastily re-purchased pendant.....

I'm glad you're going to get legal advice, but please re-consider your decision to remain under the same roof while all this is going on. Secrecy is likely to elongate your difficulties too - is this Caroline woman married?

If she is - and you booted your husband out on his ear and word got around that he'd suddenly exited your marriage - would that make her husband suspicious?

TippiShagpile · 08/01/2013 09:41

Now that he knows that his brothers know what he's been up to he may move out. There's no longer a pretence to keep up. I know it's not what you want but I do think it's the best thing for you - get some distance from him and work on moving forward with your life.

HappyNewHissy · 08/01/2013 09:56

WTF? He said you're not distressed enough? What does he want? For you to dissolve completely? What an ARSE!

Hold your head up high love, this is HIS failure, not yours.

Whatever he's up to, it doesn't matter, you need to leave HIM for dust.

You're worth a million of him. Seriously.

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 10:27

Feeling so strange this am. He didn't come to bed and I came down about 6am and was told he didn't want to be in the same room as me. He has subsequently apologised, he had quite a bit of brandy last night...

I have expressed my concern at his reassurance of financial provision for us and he has suggested mediation so we have something formal written up. I suppose that's something. Still feeling so desperately sad...

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badinage · 08/01/2013 10:53

Sod mediation. Get your own legal advice first.

This man is cruel.

Mediation only works when a split is reasonably amicable and finances are straightforward.

Is Caroline married?

HappyNewHissy · 08/01/2013 10:54

Please love, don't put yourself through this.

Tell him to go.

TippiShagpile · 08/01/2013 11:03

He's punishing you for not keeping quiet.

He's suggesting mediation to stop you from seeking independent advice.

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:05

Caroline is married but she and her husband are separating. Yes, I know, but I still think they are not planning a life together, although I know you all think otherwise. Local friends of mine who know them both agree but only time will tell on that front.

I can ask him to go but he doesn't have to at this stage, as we jointly own the house.

We spoke this morning and agreed we need to improve things at home for the time being, for our own sanity and for the security of the children.

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Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:05

He has suggested a number of times that I see a solicitor and I have arranged an appointment for next week.

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AnyFucker · 08/01/2013 11:06

Your husband is resenting your dignity in the face of stuff that would have some women screaming like a fishwife and going round to "Caroline's" to put her windows through.

He loves to witness the drama of him doesn't he ? Don't give him the satisfaction of being yet another devastated bit player left behind in the wake of his ongoing bittersweet romantic soap opera

Hullygully · 08/01/2013 11:09

It's all about HIM

HIM HIM HIM

Like all fucked-up narcissists no one else is really real to him.

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:09

Trouble is, with putting Caroline's windows through is that we live in a tiny village - only 40 kids in the entire school and our respective daughters are in the same class. It's very tempting though!

Time will tell. They certainly wouldn't be popular if they got together and stayed round here....

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TippiShagpile · 08/01/2013 11:11

Can't you get an appointment earlier than next week? Was it someone your H suggested? If you do go ahead with the appointment then please don't tell your H what the solictor says.

I'm really sorry OP but your H is calling all the shots here and to an outsider it looks like he has complete control over you and he knows it. I'm sorry.

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:11

Like all fucked-up narcissists no one else is really real to him.

Totally agree. Spoke again to brother number 1 this morning, they are all shocked but sadly unsurprised. The rest of them all have had long happy marriages and are at a loss to understand him.

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Thisisaeuphemism · 08/01/2013 11:12

Carolina and her husband are splitting now.

You and your husband are splitting now.

Caroline and your husband were texting each other day and night last year.

You really don't see a coincidence?

He has to leave your house, surely.

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:12

No, the solicitor wasn't suggested by him. There aren't many in this town but I know one of the partners in this firm, although she doesn't specialise in family law herself.

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badinage · 08/01/2013 11:13

Jesus, talk about a smoking gun.........

Look, these two are currently plotting against you and her husband. Do you know him? Have you spoken to him and told him that coincidentally, your husband also wants a separation?

The only reason he's still there is because they are still cracking on to everyone that nothing's going on and they can't be seen to be moving in together just yet.

No he doesn't have to go, but why on earth haven't you asked him to?

Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:13

I can't make him leave, unfortunately.

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Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:14

Yes, I know her husband well. He and my DH are good friends too, so he knows what's happening with us.

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Totallydistraught · 08/01/2013 11:17

Look, I'm not stupid and and I'm not being deliberately obtuse. I can put two and two together but that's not necessarily going to give me the right answer. I have thought about it constantly but all I can say is that other of my friends who know them both don't think they are setting up together. Only time will tell.

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Thisisaeuphemism · 08/01/2013 11:17

I'm sorry Totallydistraught, You seemed so certain that there is not an OW, and now you say that the silver pendant woman is leaving her husband. Surely, somewhere in the back of your mind you know that they are planning this together?.

badinage · 08/01/2013 11:17

What's all this about him texting her day and night last year? Does her husband know that? Have you spoken to him yourself?

Why won't you ask your husband to leave?

TippiShagpile · 08/01/2013 11:17

I agree. They are playing the long game.

They'll separate and get the divorce proceedings ticking along nicely.

He'll rent somewhere local for 6/12 months and then they'll announce to the world they've just got together (I'm guessing about mid March) and isn't it so lovely after all they've been through that they've found each other blah blah blah

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