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My married lover has added another relationship into the mix and I am jealous

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FreckledLeopard · 17/12/2012 17:16

So, figure the title should get your attention...Apologies for length.

Essentially, I find myself in a situation that is making me miserable, but seems to be a situation that I have repeated all my adult life in terms of who I fall in love with.

Background is somewhat complicated so bear with me. Met STBXH four years ago. Moved in with him, DD, his son to a new area. Met a couple and their DD (same age as my DD) living nearby. We all became friends, spent a lot of time together etc.

Discovered that other couple were into swinging - I was always attracted to the husband and my 'D'P was curious and attracted to the wife. So, not surprisingly, we started 'playing' with them, for want of a better word, from time to time. All very amicable and open.

Anyway, I married 'D'P - big mistake, but nothing to do with other man, just a number of other issues that all came to ahead at wedding (at which other couple attended).

The attraction between my and other man was always stronger than between DH and the wife. Often it would be just me, my DH and the other man together, though, frankly, I always wished it would be just me and other man.

Split up with DH at beginning of the year - continued to see other man and his wife. The wife was away over summer for a few months, so saw other man almost daily - went out, went for dinner, stayed over at each other's houses (children were not aware of situation). His wife was aware and happy with the arrangement (she had a number of lovers when away, though her affairs are essentially sexual and one-offs, rather than actual relationships IYSWIM).

So, things ticking over ok. I've never been jealous of his wife - she and I are friends, I wouldn't want a monogomous relationship with the other man and am happy being 'single' yet having him as a lover (also, have moved out of area, so see them less frequently).

Anyway, went there for the weekend....had heard him mention another woman a few times, but found out from his wife (my friend) that he has a huge crush on this other woman, is having a relationship with her and has told the children about polyamory and the fact that the other woman is his lover (his DD is 11).

I am so hurt and jealous. The other woman is a good twenty years older than me (he is closer to 30 years older than me). I know I have absolutely no basis for legitimately feeling as I do. After all, if I am his lover, as well as his wife, what's to stop him (or me) from having as many lovers as he wishes? I have no claim to him. But, but....it hurts so badly. I don't want him to be with the other woman. I am jealous that suddenly she is the centre of his attention. I am upset that he has told his DD about his relationship with her, but not me (though that would open a can of worms anyhow).

I've told him how I feel - he is encouraging me to get a lover where I am now living. Problem is, I don't want another lover - I want him. It's the same situation as all previous men I've fallen in love with - all unattainable. Either married, don't believe in monogomy or don't want relationships. All are charming and all have caused endless pain.

I know there's no 'magical cure' - I should distance myself from him and not open myself to being hurt. But I love him. I'm moping around miserably, dreaming about the other woman and just want him to get rid of her.

Not sure how his wife feels about this - I may see if she has misgivings or is truly ok with it all. It's like some Mormon polygamous drama or something. Freud would have a field day....

OP posts:
FreckledLeopard · 21/12/2012 13:49

Other man and his wife have told me about her. As has my STBXH who also has met her. I've seen photos, heard about her life story. Etc.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2012 14:44

Erk, you all sound a bit predatory

MamaMary · 21/12/2012 14:56

It all sounds a bit juvenile tbh

SorryMyCandyCaneLollipop · 21/12/2012 14:59

Do NOT give him the Christmas presents.

Better to give them to someone else, take them back to the shops or give to charity surely??

AgathaHoHoHo · 21/12/2012 16:04

I hope this is an episode of your life that you will look back on in a few years and think "what the fuck was I playing at?"

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 21/12/2012 16:29

I feel sorry for that new woman - what a bunch of manipulative, strange people you sound. While no doubt believing yourselves to be oh so sophisticated...

FreckledLeopard · 21/12/2012 17:08

Cheers for that Alibaba Xmas Hmm - where or how have I mentioned any kind of sophistication?

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Alibabaandthe40nappies · 21/12/2012 17:22

You are sneering at someone who has 'very little sexual experience' and is 'lacking in confidence'. Clearly you think this man should prefer you to her, and the inference is that you are so much more knowledgable and sophisticated.

I genuinely think that your perception of this whole situation is warped by your own experiences and lust for this man.

FreckledLeopard · 21/12/2012 17:45

Certainly not sneering at her. Just not understanding why, someone like other man, who has always had a certain 'type' of person in the past, has suddenly done a U-turn. And, of course, I'm jealous of her, despite having never met her, that she's suddenly the object of his affection.

Knowledgable and sophisticated - um, no. As much as I would love to be, I have very little hope of holding myself out as either of those things as anyone that knows me can tell you.

And of course my perception of the situation is warped by my experiences and love (not lust) for the other man - if it wasn't, then I'd hardly be posting a thread about it, would I?!

And lust - maybe this may be hard to believe - but I've had a grand total of one orgasm with this guy in the 2 years I've known him (more about my sexual hang ups than anything else) and I wouldn't care if I never had sex with him again. Sex isn't relevant here - I just want him to love me, whether we fuck or not.
Which obviously he doesn't. I want him to love me, care for me, look after me. If that involves sex, fine. But I'd far rather he stayed in touch, hugged me, held me or anything like that than simply fucked me. Which, again, isn't the case. And is why I have to walk away.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2012 17:49

FL, all the way through your thread you have sounded so vulnerable

You have this raddled old shagger on a pedestal

Please take him off it, for your own sake.

or else, if not this raddled old shagger, there will be another equally fucked-up situation that does you no good at all Sad

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2012 17:50

he's not even much good at the shagging

which is what you were supposedly in this scenario for

now look...you are fucked in the head about him

and he's really not worth a second thought

MooncupGoddess · 21/12/2012 17:57

Oh God OP... your situation sounds like such a cliche. Ageing man who loves having several women to sleep with and is totally uninterested in anyone else's feelings (and crap in bed)... younger vulnerable woman who just wants to be loved and cared for. It's a very long way from mutally open, equal and happy polyamory.

Great that you have blocked them -for heaven's sake don't give them the presents!!

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2012 18:00

I'll bet that old cock is going a bit soft already Xmas Grin

OP...you need to develop some healthy disrespect of this man.

(disclaimer, my DH is in his 50's and no softness problems here...mind you he doesn't use his energy chasing all kinds of vulnerable women and then giving them crap shags)

chucksaway · 21/12/2012 18:01

OP in time i hope you find and experience real love

then all of this will pale into insignificance

DontmindifIdo · 21/12/2012 18:01

I'll be honest OP, the more you say, the more vunerable you sound, and the less you seemed to get from this (really only 1 orgasm in years together? This sounds so very one sided). It does sound like you were a vunerable woman and now he's found another vunerable woman. That sounds more like his 'type' for a relationship, whereas his 'type' for one night stands is different.

Spend some time alone. Don't jump into the next relationship.

aroomofherown · 21/12/2012 18:04

I think you've fallen in love and it is the same pain as anyone who's fallen in love and dealing with a breakup.

I think you aren't threatened by his wife because you sense that the attraction between you two is stronger anyway.

It sounds like you just aren't cut out for polyamory, because you want this guy to not take on new lovers. But that's exactly what is going to happen - they are the mutually implied conditions under which you met. It's not going to change - but you have.

I think you are best to move on, and find love with someone you don't have to share.

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