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Is my boyfriend tight?

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pippilongstockinglondon · 10/12/2012 12:39

Firstly, apologies for the long message!

I?ve been dating with my boyfriend for two months. The first date was in a fairly expensive restaurant (he invited me out and booked the table). Despite the fact that the venue was my choice I was actually expecting to stay in the bar area as I?m struggling financially. He ordered a drink, one of the mains (£18), I ordered a starter only (£6.50) and we shared a bottle of wine of which he had more than half. At the end of the evening he asked what we should do with the bill. I offered - just to be polite - that we split it in half; however I was expecting him to pay a bit more as he had the lion?s share. But he gladly agreed and I ended up paying half of the £52 bill. Fair enough, he paid for the wine at a pub the following weekend (£10), so I thought it was actually fine. Only recently I have started thinking about the old saying ?mean with money, mean with love??Maybe I have watched too many Hollywood romcoms, but shouldn?t it be the case of a man making an effort when he?s dating a woman?!

We spend around 3 days/evenings a week together and he always stays at mine. I do the grocery shopping, spend time cooking and generally put quite a lot of effort into pleasing him. We have gone out for breakfast twice (local caff the first time and a bit more upmarket café the second time) and he has paid for it, but on both occasions he kept on complaining how expensive it is to eat out. We once went grocery shopping together for which he paid (£12). He has also paid for a takeaway twice: pizza and Chinese. When I go shopping I always try to buy healthy nutritious food, because this is what I am used to and I genuinely love cooking. I usually make my meals from scratch: casseroles and stews, steak and salad, roast chicken and potatoes, soups. I don?t eat crisps or £1 frozen pies. Yes, I sometimes have a cheeky takeaway pizza and chips, but it doesn?t happen often.

He never brings any food or anything else with him, except for the last weekend when he decided to bring some of his own items, after saying that ?you never have any food at home?. So he brought a pack of frozen waffles, a frozen pie (the kind of products you can get from Iceland for £1) and a tin of baked beans. However, in the evening after realising my food was so much better (chicken fajitas and green salad), he decided not to eat his but indulge in mine. I don?t always have the items in the fridge that he would like (for full English), but I have always made him coffee & toast, omelette or a bacon sandwich. Except for the two breakfasts mentioned earlier and a couple of times when he has woken up before me and gone to eat in a local caff. So I think it is unfair to say that I never have any food at home. What about all the dinners I have prepared for him?

As a side note, I am a secretary on a 23k salary (plus stuck in a dead end job) and he is a financial analyst in the City. Not sure how much he is earning, but perhaps around 50-60k?!

I feel that he is not making much effort and is generally a tight person. Am I unfair?

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izzyizin · 11/12/2012 13:42

From what I've read of the online dating thread, Annie, it would seem it's a world in which it's not easy to avoid becoming a twat magnet and careful sifting of wheat from chaff is required before any rl encounters take place.

In short, a gal needs to have finely tuned twat radar and acute hearing to detect the clanging of alarm bells on paper as well as in person.

The signs were there from the off, pippi, and you need to work on why you ignored them and chose to let yourself be suckered in by this tosser.

MadameOvary · 11/12/2012 13:47

Well I feel for the OP.
I have been that passive, that down on myself, and that naive. I would have done the same, been unsure, waited to see what happened.
Now, however after an abusive relationship and a few years on MN he wouldn't get a second look.
OP, you voiced your concerns, and he ran away in a strop. At the very very least, that marks him as unreliable and immature. Both of which mean he should be ditched without a second thought.

pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 13:48

MyLittleFluffball, Arseface and other helpful people, thank you for your kind words. :)

Not sure how to find out about his living/work arrangements more, but I'll find a way. As suggested, will try to call the Switchboard of his company later just to find out whether he has been telling the truth about where he works. A bit scared of doing this though, need to work out a strategy.

We normally take different trains from the same station after finishing work. Around the same time as well.

I just wish him to be honest/open with me and explain why he has been keeping me away from his flat, apart from the fact that he hates that place. Never thought of this before until people mentioned about it - maybe I'm not nosy/clever enough. I've definitely been too trusting and naive - guilty as charged. His response, that he hates the flat, dislikes the people in it and doesn't want to spend any time there at all, seemed believable enough. Maybe he is embarrassed about his living conditions. But maybe I'm just finding excuses for him.

Here's an idea. He has left his dirty pants on my floor, I might just post them back to his once I know the address. Along with the £2.50. ;)

Really confused now. Will listen to my heart, but use my brain too.

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LaQueen · 11/12/2012 13:51

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pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 13:54

Deep in my heart I know this is over, because I'm furious over his behaviour. But you're absolutely right, I'm a very passive person and find it difficult to talk about my feelings and needs directly. Have made the first step and asked him the uncomfortable question (and he ran off).

I know the next logical step would be stop seeing him.

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MadameOvary · 11/12/2012 13:54

Your need for him to be open and honest is reasonable, but you are not going to get that from him. Really, you don't need to know, because he has amply demonstated his unwillingness to be open and honest. Believe me, you are only going to get the facts under duress, probably yelled at you followed by a tirade of abuse and "Hope you're happy now" before stomping off in another strop.

He isn't worth any more of your time, energy, or emotion.

dreamingbohemian · 11/12/2012 13:56

The thing is, OP, you might never know the real reason why he won't take you to his flat. It's so frustrating to never find out these things, but prepare yourself for that. It might just be an unsolved mystery you have to let go.

And you don't need to know. You already have enough evidence that he's deeply weird and not good partner material. Let him go back to his weird stupid life and you go on improving your life and doing great things.

As for calling -- don't be afraid. Just ask for him (have a fake name prepared just in case). If they say "Hold on, I'll connect you", then hang up. If they say, "No one here by that name," well, then you know.

But it's a bit of a distraction. Even if he does work there, that doesn't mean he's not being weird and untrustworthy anyway.

He ran away from you at the train station. Good god, that's really all you need to know.

Whocansay · 11/12/2012 13:58

I really wouldn't bother with this guy. He's clearly a liar. But to put your mind at rest, call the switchboard and say that you need to write to him and ask them to confirm his job title and department.

I imagine he's actually something called a paraplanner, which could kind of be described as a financial analyst, but you'd earn substantially less. And unlike a proper FA who would work long hours, a PP would work 9-5, which would explain how he could get a train at the same time as you.

izzyizin · 11/12/2012 14:02

Forget your heart; use your brain to work out you'll need the £2.50 for postage to return his dirty undies

Put on your best secretary voice, make contact with the main switchboard of the company he allegedly works for, say you're writing to Mr X X, and ask for his job title

If you care to pm me the details I'll be happy to make the call and report back to you privately in strictest confidence. That way there'll be no comeback for you whatsoever - not that I imagine there would be if you follow the script above.

pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 14:22

I just figured it out how to make the call. He's currently looking for a job, so I could say I'm calling from a company Some-Made-Up-Name to get a reference.

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earlyriser · 11/12/2012 14:22

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If it's this much hard work, this early on, it's just not worth it Grin

snowtunesgirl · 11/12/2012 14:23

OP, hang on a minute. What on earth will this achieve? Just walk away with dignity intact and a phew that you had a lucky escape so early on in a relationship.

caramelwaffle · 11/12/2012 14:32

pippi read AF's post at 12.47 again.

Think it over.

jingleallthespringy · 11/12/2012 14:36

Make that call if it helps you to tie up some loose ends. You've had a shock to cope with a very unsatisfactory end to your 'relationship' - with him running away FFS - and maybe doing some detective work will strengthen your resolve.

btw, do they know he's looking for another job? re references could land him in it. Your choice.

LaQueen · 11/12/2012 14:44

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pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 14:44

Re his job...This clearly proves that I'm not thinking straight. Will think of a better plan, don't want to put his job at risk.

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pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 14:45

LaQueen, I agree with you. It wouldn't change anything at all.

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jingleallthespringy · 11/12/2012 14:48

I think it will change things. You want to know, as much as you can, what was and wasn't true, otherwise it's all a bit of a headfuck I would've thought.

dinkystinky · 11/12/2012 15:06

Pippi - you dont need to check up on whether or not he's told you the truth about his job, his living situation etc. The fact of the matter is that you can feel something isnt right in this relationship which means, after 2 months, its time to move on. Dont tie yourself to this man for any longer!

Fluffycloudland77 · 11/12/2012 15:20

You dont have to be on the searchable electoral role, neither of us are but you could find us if you went to our local council and searched the paper role.

So, he could well live with a wife/gf and you wouldnt find out online.

cestlavielife · 11/12/2012 15:45

just ask to speak to him then lose the connection (damn those tunnels!) when they put you thru...

Mollydoggerson · 11/12/2012 15:51

Does he have a linkedIn profile?

pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 16:24

No, he doesn't have a LinkedIn. I asked him recently why he doesn't have it as I reckon it's a good way of keeping in touch with your contacts and letting everyone know that you're looking to find a new job. He said he cannot be on LinkedIn because he has lied a lot about his jobs. Not the names of the companies or length of employment but the job titles. I actually understand this tactics (not entirely though) as it's sometimes necessary to change your details - especially when applying for very different roles. But how much do you need to lie?!

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clam · 11/12/2012 16:27

Lied about his jobs? What else does he lie about then, I wonder?

SorryMyCandyCaneLollipop · 11/12/2012 16:31

"Lied at lot" hmmm not just about his jobs I'll bet ...