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Is my boyfriend tight?

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pippilongstockinglondon · 10/12/2012 12:39

Firstly, apologies for the long message!

I?ve been dating with my boyfriend for two months. The first date was in a fairly expensive restaurant (he invited me out and booked the table). Despite the fact that the venue was my choice I was actually expecting to stay in the bar area as I?m struggling financially. He ordered a drink, one of the mains (£18), I ordered a starter only (£6.50) and we shared a bottle of wine of which he had more than half. At the end of the evening he asked what we should do with the bill. I offered - just to be polite - that we split it in half; however I was expecting him to pay a bit more as he had the lion?s share. But he gladly agreed and I ended up paying half of the £52 bill. Fair enough, he paid for the wine at a pub the following weekend (£10), so I thought it was actually fine. Only recently I have started thinking about the old saying ?mean with money, mean with love??Maybe I have watched too many Hollywood romcoms, but shouldn?t it be the case of a man making an effort when he?s dating a woman?!

We spend around 3 days/evenings a week together and he always stays at mine. I do the grocery shopping, spend time cooking and generally put quite a lot of effort into pleasing him. We have gone out for breakfast twice (local caff the first time and a bit more upmarket café the second time) and he has paid for it, but on both occasions he kept on complaining how expensive it is to eat out. We once went grocery shopping together for which he paid (£12). He has also paid for a takeaway twice: pizza and Chinese. When I go shopping I always try to buy healthy nutritious food, because this is what I am used to and I genuinely love cooking. I usually make my meals from scratch: casseroles and stews, steak and salad, roast chicken and potatoes, soups. I don?t eat crisps or £1 frozen pies. Yes, I sometimes have a cheeky takeaway pizza and chips, but it doesn?t happen often.

He never brings any food or anything else with him, except for the last weekend when he decided to bring some of his own items, after saying that ?you never have any food at home?. So he brought a pack of frozen waffles, a frozen pie (the kind of products you can get from Iceland for £1) and a tin of baked beans. However, in the evening after realising my food was so much better (chicken fajitas and green salad), he decided not to eat his but indulge in mine. I don?t always have the items in the fridge that he would like (for full English), but I have always made him coffee & toast, omelette or a bacon sandwich. Except for the two breakfasts mentioned earlier and a couple of times when he has woken up before me and gone to eat in a local caff. So I think it is unfair to say that I never have any food at home. What about all the dinners I have prepared for him?

As a side note, I am a secretary on a 23k salary (plus stuck in a dead end job) and he is a financial analyst in the City. Not sure how much he is earning, but perhaps around 50-60k?!

I feel that he is not making much effort and is generally a tight person. Am I unfair?

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lostconfusedwhatnext · 11/12/2012 16:41

Ugh who cares about his silly jobs, he is just horrible. Pippi you are wasting much too much mental energy on this.

You need to:

    1. [optional] PM me his name and the name of the co. he supposedly works at and I will ring them up for you without it reflecting on you in any way at all. I will either terminate the call when I have established whether he works there or not, or, if you like, if he is there, I will conduct a head hunter type phone interview and get all the facts. This happens all the time, for all he knows I could be real. I will not charge a fee for this ;). Then, whether or not you go ahead with this splendid gratis opportunity,

  • 2. [not optional] forget him. Phone a friend, arrange a drinks meet up for tonight or soon, get on with your life, and forget him
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snowtunesgirl · 11/12/2012 16:47

What lost just said. Is this what you always do this early on in relationships?

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expatinscotland · 11/12/2012 16:50

Good grief, Pipi, it's only been 8 weeks and it's like this? Don't bother digging anything up, just DUMP.

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pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 16:57

No, not really...I'm actually giving it a rest, don't really care that much what he does. Have to concentrate on my job interview, which is this Friday. :)

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Pendipidy · 11/12/2012 17:09

you can surely see that any reasonable person , not even a boyfriend, would not run away when asked where they live? you realise he has been lying to you about something. are you going to contact him to find out why he ran off ?

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pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 17:29

No, I'm not going to contact him. If he has something to say or in case (hmm wonder if that's possible?!) he wants to explain his strange behaviour, then he can phone me...But I have decided that I'm not going to make contact myself and definitely won't be sitting there waiting for him to call either.

Not worth spending more time on thinking about the reasons for his behaviour and actions. Wasted too much time already. As someone in this thread already said in other words, it's not going to change the fact that he is too inconsiderate and mean to be a good partner in life. It's always about him him him anyway.

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lostconfusedwhatnext · 11/12/2012 17:31

Thanks Thanks Thanks
Wine Wine Wine

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AndrewMyrrh · 11/12/2012 17:42

I agree, just dump him. No need for sleuthing, proof, or explanations. What an arsehole.

Out of interest, what time did you meet up with him last night?

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SomethingProfound · 11/12/2012 18:04

Good move pippi, no need to start playing detective, all it will do is drag you deeper into this mentally and emotionally.

Good luck with your interview!

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BonzoDooDah · 11/12/2012 18:33

Well done Pippi - excellent decision! Stand up for yourself, make the decision yourself and be proud.

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dreamingbohemian · 11/12/2012 18:42

Well done Pippi Grin

And good luck on that interview!

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TweedSlacks · 11/12/2012 21:08

Rather too late , and apologies if this has been covered already...

I think from Pippi's information he might very well still be married , maybe with DC's .
He might have been booted out by his STBXW from the marital home for cheating , hence the Mtg . Twuntyman is now renting a room from his 'mate' and its an awkward '3some' in a small 2 bed flat in London.
His bessie mate;s G/F does not like him because he interupts their relationship , and the fact he cheated on his wife and kids . . . .

Skint because of paying mtg and rent plus child maintanence ? Cant cook because dp has done all the washing and cooking for years

LTB and run , dont look back ( hang on.- HE ran. fucking weirdo )

Sorry but sounds like a wanna be cocklodger to me .

LTB

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AndrewMyrrh · 11/12/2012 21:17

Great post Tweed.

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MyLittleFluffball · 12/12/2012 07:44

You sound like you're reaching a good headspace regarding this strange man, pippilongstockinglondon. Just way too many red flags for you to even consider him as a long-term prospect. Given this, I agree with those who've said there's no need to try to verify the details he's given you, play detective, etc. I can assure you that he's behaving like he's got something to hide, which means he's lying to you - either overtly or through omission. So I guess any lingering "infatuation" is misplaced anyway, as you don't actually know the man you've been dating!

And I'm so glad that the tone of this thread has changed back to being supportive, which is what you deserve, rather than that crazy tangent of baseless accusations! Even when you know people's comments are totally off-base/unfounded, the insults can still hurt - especially when you're someone who values others' opinions of you/likes to see people happy (as I can certainly attest).

Best wishes to you. :)

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legoballoon · 12/12/2012 16:23

Definitely just dump and don't expend any more energy on this man. So what if he doesn't have the job he says he has, or if he is married... You already know he is discourteous, tight, misogynistic, and looking for someone to do his washing/ cook him meals/ put out etc. on his terms.

Please listen to your head. Speaking as someone who's been there, pre-Mumsnet, and wishes she'd had such wise and kind advice from other women (and some nice men) all those years ago.

One day you will probably meet a good man, but he ain't it.

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NotGoodNotBad · 12/12/2012 16:42

"And I'm so glad that the tone of this thread has changed back to being supportive, which is what you deserve, rather than that crazy tangent of baseless accusations!"

Not sure what accusations you're referring to Fluffball... BUT

I do think OP should have a long think about what happened in this relationship - not just about what her boyfriend did, but about what she did. Unless that is she wants to spend the rest of her life skivvying for some man and being treated like a slave by her children.

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Pendipidy · 15/12/2012 15:09

update?

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MushroomSoup · 15/12/2012 17:53

How was your job interview yesterday?

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AndrewMyrrh · 16/12/2012 20:29

Update Pippi?

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toucancancan · 22/01/2013 19:57

Pippi, can I ask what happened in the end?

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prelim29 · 22/01/2013 20:07

I must have missed this gripping thread in December - desperate to hear the outcome!

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bongobaby · 22/01/2013 20:45

Fed and watered from my fridge, never offered to help out. I,m a single mum low earner, he was an analyst on 40k.
Took home from my fridge 2 sauages for his breakfast next day,i had brought to feed dc.
Brought my dc a large packet of crisp some left over, he ate the rest because he had brought them told dc not to have anymore.
Took him out to dinner he sat there and ordered 7 pints of beer with his food.
Wanted lift home from Airport, it was my skint few days before payday asked for tenner petrol said I was taking a fucking liberty asking him for it.
Started his own clothes buisness ran him around suppliers and places in my car, didnt pay for any petrol.
Asked him for a t shirt from his new buisness, held his hand out and charged me for it saying he was not a charity.
Moaned that he would not pay £23 for a meal for 3 of us and I was a mug to do it.
please Pippi tell me you have not hooked up with my ex of 3 years. All of the above is one tight arsehole, maybe it his twin brother!!!!

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prelim29 · 23/01/2013 23:22

bump for news from OP

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schooldays · 24/01/2013 13:14

I have been in this situation - and yes he is tight - and he will be tight in other ways too. i remember when my dh and i started dating i noticed he would never leave a tip and other smallish things. then when we started getting more settled we would have dinner in my house alot and i remember asking a friend was it tight that he never even brought as much as a bottle of wine or a packet of biscuits. the writing was on the wall then and i wish said friend would have told me that yes that is a stingy miserable person right there!
anyway i married him and had kids and to say i have had a tough few years would be an understatement.
he will only get worse as the stakes get higher - they always do - so while you might be enjoying his company now and hoping that things will improve or he will change - that wont happen. sorry to be so doom and gloom but i am on very dependent on my dh (not to pay everything to to pay his share) and it is horrible and makes me feel very insecure. always excuses not to pay his part of the electric bill or complaining about the price of everythign.

sorry to be so blunt but dont get involved any further - if you are not mean yourself there is nothing as unattractive and embarrasing as being with a tight wad. there are no excuses.
ps might just be my dh but along with the meaness there was always this retinence to hold back in other areas and whilte lies and pleading poverty - run girl!!

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schooldays · 24/01/2013 15:00

sorry didnt mean to go on a rant there - to summarise what i am trying to say: yes he is being very tight and to my mind this is a character trait not something to be taken in isolation - and trust me, you can try and get someone to change their behaviour - you can never change their character........ same advice break up with him and find someone with a nicer character

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