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Is my boyfriend tight?

313 replies

pippilongstockinglondon · 10/12/2012 12:39

Firstly, apologies for the long message!

I?ve been dating with my boyfriend for two months. The first date was in a fairly expensive restaurant (he invited me out and booked the table). Despite the fact that the venue was my choice I was actually expecting to stay in the bar area as I?m struggling financially. He ordered a drink, one of the mains (£18), I ordered a starter only (£6.50) and we shared a bottle of wine of which he had more than half. At the end of the evening he asked what we should do with the bill. I offered - just to be polite - that we split it in half; however I was expecting him to pay a bit more as he had the lion?s share. But he gladly agreed and I ended up paying half of the £52 bill. Fair enough, he paid for the wine at a pub the following weekend (£10), so I thought it was actually fine. Only recently I have started thinking about the old saying ?mean with money, mean with love??Maybe I have watched too many Hollywood romcoms, but shouldn?t it be the case of a man making an effort when he?s dating a woman?!

We spend around 3 days/evenings a week together and he always stays at mine. I do the grocery shopping, spend time cooking and generally put quite a lot of effort into pleasing him. We have gone out for breakfast twice (local caff the first time and a bit more upmarket café the second time) and he has paid for it, but on both occasions he kept on complaining how expensive it is to eat out. We once went grocery shopping together for which he paid (£12). He has also paid for a takeaway twice: pizza and Chinese. When I go shopping I always try to buy healthy nutritious food, because this is what I am used to and I genuinely love cooking. I usually make my meals from scratch: casseroles and stews, steak and salad, roast chicken and potatoes, soups. I don?t eat crisps or £1 frozen pies. Yes, I sometimes have a cheeky takeaway pizza and chips, but it doesn?t happen often.

He never brings any food or anything else with him, except for the last weekend when he decided to bring some of his own items, after saying that ?you never have any food at home?. So he brought a pack of frozen waffles, a frozen pie (the kind of products you can get from Iceland for £1) and a tin of baked beans. However, in the evening after realising my food was so much better (chicken fajitas and green salad), he decided not to eat his but indulge in mine. I don?t always have the items in the fridge that he would like (for full English), but I have always made him coffee & toast, omelette or a bacon sandwich. Except for the two breakfasts mentioned earlier and a couple of times when he has woken up before me and gone to eat in a local caff. So I think it is unfair to say that I never have any food at home. What about all the dinners I have prepared for him?

As a side note, I am a secretary on a 23k salary (plus stuck in a dead end job) and he is a financial analyst in the City. Not sure how much he is earning, but perhaps around 50-60k?!

I feel that he is not making much effort and is generally a tight person. Am I unfair?

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pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 09:34

I haven't heard from him since last night and won't be making contact myself. Would be interesting to know what he has to say about his living arrangements.

He has a mortgage, but is renting the property out. Renting a room in his friend's flat - that's the friend with the girlfriend that he hates so much.

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NotGoodNotBad · 11/12/2012 09:47

"A couple of weeks ago he left some clothes lying around on my bedroom floor and I just put them aside. A few days later, he asked about the clothes and seemed annoyed that I hadn´t washed them: "Why haven´t you washed my clothes?" So the following week I washed his clothes too. It didn´t really bother me that much at the time as there were only a few items"

Back to my point about role reversal - what if you had left a few things on his floor (if you ever got to visit!) What would you say to him about it? Would you be complaining that he hadn't washed them? Shock Think about that.

pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 09:48

I've googled him a few times (name, surname, telephone number, email address), but nothing much comes up except for an old electoral roll data from 2002 when he was living with his parents. Plus a reference to his old job, which I found yesterday - I actually don't think he is making up his employment history or current job. He also has a Facebook account, but obviously the info is private.

Has has told me about his friends (never met any) and know that he disapproves of their girlfriends. All of them. Misogynistic?

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pippilongstockinglondon · 11/12/2012 09:50

I would never leave my dirty clothes at anyone's place, let alone expect them to wash the clothes. Good point! :)

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 11/12/2012 09:51

Perhaps his friends gf's don't wash his mates clothes ?

tallwivglasses · 11/12/2012 09:58

Phone his office!!!

caramelwaffle · 11/12/2012 10:03

He hates the girlfriends because they refused to go to the tattoo parlour to have "mug" etched on.

You're too good for him. Get rid.

Chandon · 11/12/2012 10:04

Something is up.

We need to know now!

LunaticFringe · 11/12/2012 10:05

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lostconfusedwhatnext · 11/12/2012 10:06

Pippi, are you not fb friends with him?!
Yes, men who don't like ANY of their friends' wives or gfs are usually misogynists. I think even the thing about "hating" his flatmate's gf is sus enough - I mean surely most nice men would say "we don't really get on, and it's a bit crowded when we're all there, and I don't really feel comfortable bringing another person..." etc - if it is a tricky situation there are nicer ways to talk about his friend's partner.

I agree he might be hiding something, from the way he blew up - something big like no job, or married - or could just be something small, things that most sane gfs wouldn't mind about, but he is angry with you for questioning him and not knowing your place. Suppose, for instance, he is broke because he is supporting his slightly embarrassing, dementia-suffering mum who has nowhere else to go. A nice man would say "Look, I should have told you this before, but...." and it would be ok, you would like him more for looking after his mum. But the danger signal is the anger and the flouncing off (and everything else you have ever said about him)

Bogeyface · 11/12/2012 10:08

I rather suspect he disapproves of his mates GFs because they are strong independent women who don't go into ecstasy at the sight of a basket of ironing.

Misogynistic? Just a bit!

lostconfusedwhatnext · 11/12/2012 10:10

I had one like this. I too focused my disquiet on the money thing because it was the most quantifiable thing and my self esteem was too low to recognise the things that are less quantifiable. But I was always slightly out of pocket from anything we did together - it was a pattern, and over time it felt like he was using me. He was, but the money wasn't the worst way he was using me. I wish I had had a mum and a best friend like yours to tell me things weren't right. Or mn.

APMF · 11/12/2012 10:10

As long as it is just a few clothes and the op isn't carrying the load down to the river what is the big deal about chucking in a few extra items into the washing machine?

When we were dating we tended to stay over at DPs (it was nicer). I simply left the dirty clothes behind so that I always had clean clothes there. I would definitely gone WTF! if DP had made a point of not chucking my stuff into the machine.

Don't get me wrong. I'm with the Dump Him! crowd. But provided he isn't bringing dirty clothes TO your place AND he offers to help iron I don't see what the big deal is

dequoisagitil · 11/12/2012 10:15

If he has a place of his own and hates lodging with his friend, why in the hell is he living there? It sounds like a lot of old bollocks.

His overreaction to your questions says freakazoid or something to hide.

Going back to the "why haven't you washed my clothes?" thing - at no point should there even be an expectation that you do your bloke's clothes for him - in our house when a load needs doing whoever is there at the time does it. My dh wouldn't dream of saying "why haven't you washed my clothes?" The only time he'd ever ask me to do his washing specifically would be if he couldn't get to it for some undeniable, practical reason and he needed something specially done for a good reason, like an interview - and then he'd ask me nicely!

You are not an indentured servant, a laundrette or his mother... And even my kids would think twice about asking me why I hadn't done their washing Grin.

Bogeyface · 11/12/2012 10:15

The big deal APMF is that after 8 weeks he is treating her like a maid! I would be pissed off if my husband got snotty with me for not doing his washing, and we have been together 7 years. After 8 weeks I would have told him to sling his hook!

He did do his laundry at my place and I would sometimes put his stuff in with mine, but that was because he didnt have a machine of his own, and he insisted on paying towards the electricity bill. If he had just assumed that I would do his washing as a thank you for being allowed to bounce on his cock three times a week he would have been history.

dequoisagitil · 11/12/2012 10:19

Plus asking you about £2.50 that fell out of his pocket, while claiming to be something in the city?!

£20, I could understand him asking about, but just cos he was worried about having lost it somewhere rather than needing it back immediately. He ought to be embarrassed about asking about £2.50 Hmm.

dequoisagitil · 11/12/2012 10:20

Maybe it's a diamond-encrusted 24 carat gold cock, bogey.

Bogeyface · 11/12/2012 10:22

That'd be a bit sore wouldnt it?! :o

ike1 · 11/12/2012 10:24

Listen Pipi I am coming to lodge with you! Ive had enough of my life at home and I fancy having someone cook me delicious healthy meals and do my washing if I leave my pants on the floor. I might buy you the odd meal in recompense. Deal??? You sound great btw..(I am quite hot in the sack too..)

Anniegetyourgun · 11/12/2012 10:34

Re "you are not his mother" type comments, fair enough though those are, I live with an adult son who does his own washing. Yesterday I popped some clothes in the wash for him and he thanked me most politely. That is how decent men with manners behave even towards their mothers. One might reasonably expect even better towards someone he should be trying to impress.

LaQueen · 11/12/2012 10:54

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badinage · 11/12/2012 11:06

He also has a Facebook account, but obviously the info is private

Eh?? Private to you only, I should think..........

JamNan · 11/12/2012 11:09

Hmm..
I think mortgaged property is occupied by Financial Analyst's ex-wife/girlfriend who got wise and chucked him out. He's now 'lodging' temporarily with best mate. Maybe bezzie mate and his girlfriend have also got wise to FA and asked him to leave. Of course he can't invite you there because his lies will be found out. He's eying up your place though.

Do you know the actual address of where he claims to live?

ethelb · 11/12/2012 11:16

The facebook thing screams louder than anything else tbh.

Why would his FB profile be private from someone he has been seeing for two months? This coupled with the fact that you have never been to his house, or apparently never met any friends of his etc it woudl put money on him having something to hide.

ethelb · 11/12/2012 11:18

can you look up his house on the land registry? That will say who owns it.