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Residual Parenting Commitments, The Last Turkey In The Shop, Boiled Bunnies, Men With Fish and Stolen Condoms. Dating Thread XXXI.

999 replies

FlorentinePogen · 04/12/2012 19:49

Get on with it, daters.............Smile

OP posts:
BantaBaby · 14/12/2012 11:28

And she just called back to plead. And said she'd bought me a present, could I text her my address so she could send it - she hasn't been to mine yet (only been two and a half weeks)

So how do I tactfully not give it to her as I'm seriously worried about getting voodoo dolls through the post? I said I didn't think it was a good idea if we saw each other again, so meeting up somewhere isn't a goer.

ike1 · 14/12/2012 11:30

Erk..I kow what I would say if it was a bloke...but you probs want to be nice....has she not got a receipt to take it back? Or she can give it to a charity?

ike1 · 14/12/2012 11:31

know

mercury7 · 14/12/2012 11:35

If you accept a gift from her then you'll 'owe' her something, you'll also be continuing to engage with her.
Only you can really judge how to play it...but I'd suggest being polite but firm.
Perhaps tell her that you know yourself well enough to know that this isnt going to work for you, and continue to repeat that the best way for you to both move on is to cut all contact.

Good luck...it's not your fault that she's so over the top

OhWesternWind · 14/12/2012 11:36

Bant sorry it's not going well. If you give her your address, you know she'll be there on the doorstep two hours later. What did you say when she asked you to text her your address? Talking about the present is a bit of a passive-aggressive guilt trip thing and she can either take it back or give it to someone else I'm sure. You don't go sending presents to someone you've only known for a fortnight and aren't seeing any more, really you don't.

There's no point really in dragging it out with her as you're not going to change your mind, so it may be a case of being cruel to be kind and just not engaging in any more communication with her.

That sounds really harsh and I wouldn't like to be treated like that, but on the other hand I wouldn't be behaving like she is, so I think that special measures may be called for.

SweetSeraphim · 14/12/2012 11:37

She CRIED??? After a few weeks and a couple of dates? Blimey, you definitely did the right thing, do you feel relieved?

SweetSeraphim · 14/12/2012 11:39

Don't tell her your address, whatever you do. I sympathise that she's been hurt and all that, but she is waaaay over the top.

48howdidthathappen · 14/12/2012 11:39

Can you say a clean break is better for you both? You need to get out now.

ike1 · 14/12/2012 11:46

Yep all of the above ...just tell her to take it back and get herself something nice in return.

BantaBaby · 14/12/2012 11:50

Another text asking if we can still be friends, meet up for dinner once a month or something.

This is horrible - I actually liked her - yes she was over the top, and too intense, and frustrating when she wouldn't take my comments that we should take things slowly - but she's a nice person. I feel a bit relieved that it's done, but mostly just shitty for hurting her (and oh how much)

It's weird, on this thread we give and ask for advice, make comments about people, slate peoples weird behaviour - and we find the mutual support makes it easier to get over the way people treat us badly.

But this is a person who's actually nice, albeit over the top and too full-on. It's horrible that she's so upset, in tears, asking if we can make it still work just casually when I know she can't do that. She's just texted again to ask if I can still go for dinner on Sunday...

Alright. Red flags learned. Possibly. Although I really don't see when I'm going to fit in time for dating - or energy - if I'm commuting between countries come January.

48howdidthathappen · 14/12/2012 11:55

Has she not got people in RL to support her?

Plenty of people here on the sofa. A break maybe in order.

ike1 · 14/12/2012 11:57

Oh dear Banta, lovely, I dont know what to say really...but you know its not a goer and for her sake you really have to hang tough if you wobble and mess her about it is going to hurt her more in the end..

DeanMartinx · 14/12/2012 11:57

Wickaninnish - I take your point about over-thinking things.
To be honest, that is what I do - but in a controlled way.

Years ago, I learnt to go with my natural "style" which is one of kicking an issue around until every single known strand has been explored. I am at my best when I am bouncing stuff off people - I could never survive on my own as a single practitioner or self-starter.

It has been my good fortune to surround myself with fantastic people with whom I operate, working off their strengths. We are extremely diligent in shaking out every sliver of information, every clue and every cue - so that when we get involved with anybody we have the best information possible, with a view to avoiding avoidable mistakes.

At home, my wife and I were somewhat similar in that we would discuss an issue ad nauseam - and would then be fairly comfortable that we had covered most of the "known knowns".

With regard to Widow, I cannot really discuss this with anybody - and so, I am using this thread as my bouncing wall. It is probably a bit wearisome for people skipping through my posts - because my story does not have the same pace as most peoples'. But I am very grateful for the feedback - and would not have believed how affirming it can be.

As for swamping Widow on the emotional front, there is little likelihood of that. When my wife was here, she used to say (to the dog) "God help the poor woman that get's him when I'm gone. I'll have to come back and give her my notes". It was a running "joke" for years. Little did either of us know that it would come to pass.

In real life, while I am naturally warm and lighthearted, I can be a hard read. My daughters get me completely - but, I might be hard enough work for somebody else.

Also, lulubella, you are very perceptive to spot that Widow could easily have excluded me from her responses. I don't think that is over-thinking at all - it is a strand of information that forms part of the mosaic. In truth, I take a lot of encouragement from that single cue - and thanks for highlighting it.

P.S.
Of course, I am not suggesting that experience of dealing with business issues can be used in deciding the best approach to a fair lady.
Ah no! - business is easy (well, the male-dominated part anyway).

48howdidthathappen · 14/12/2012 11:58

You didn't treat her badly. You tried. It didn't work out.

BantaBaby · 14/12/2012 12:13

Ah well I feel better now. She spoke to a friend in RL, who it turns out is someone who knows me (small world), who told her that I'd asked his ex out for coffee. So now she thinks I'm a player and can't believe I would be that much of an arsehole. She was really very annoyed on the voicemail.

So I texted just to put the record straight that I'd asked that girl out the day before the Artist ever contacted me, and hadn't spoken to her since. She's accusing me of retroactively cheating and getting angry about it.

Okay, now I feel less of a bastard for hurting her.

mercury7 · 14/12/2012 12:16

Bant you say the artist is 'nice'
but is it really nice to want to swamp another person, is it still love when you try and drown a person with your love?
pouring out all her pain on you is emotional blackmail surely?
This was not a longstanding relationship...her pain is out of proportion.

I've felt disproportionally upset before, but I kept it to myself, I didnt spew all over the other person

48howdidthathappen · 14/12/2012 12:20

She has gone into 'your loss arsehole'. That is good.

KirstyWirsty · 14/12/2012 12:27

Bant she is a nutcase and you've had a lucky escape my friend - I would just ignore any future attempts at contact

Well done on the job as well .. !

I've been busy in RL so haven't been on here much .. raised £1.1k yesterday for Yorkhill children's hospital through carol singing and a bake off organised by moi :)

No OD for me .. Mr Cheeky says he is going to whisk me off on a romantic highland weekend away in the new year .. Grin

Yogagirl17 · 14/12/2012 12:41

Hi Bant, just want to say I'm sorry it feels so shitty but the truth is she hasn't really been that nice to you, she may have been nice & funny as long as things were going the way she wanted but she didn't have any real respect for your feelings or needs. Let her be mad at you if it makes her feel better. But if she keeps pleading for contact I would do what 48 suggests - just tell her you really think a clean break is the best thing and then don't continue to engage with her (and FFS do not give her your address!).

Are you going to take the job or can you afford t keep looking for something a little more local?

I went for another interview this morning. I think I was pretty awesome if I do say so myself. I don't actually want the job as I've already accepted the other one I was offered but I'd really love to be offered this one as well just for the ego boost. They said they would let me know on Monday.

Still firmly on the S.O.F.A.

BantaBaby · 14/12/2012 13:04

Okay, now she's well into the 'I was too good for you stage' and accused me of using her for sex. Part of me wants to defend myself as she's been told I was dating someone else at the same time - and this was when I'd sworn off the sweet trolley. Seeing anyone else wasn't even possible given the fact I spoke to her every night for 3 hours or so.

But.. she's exploring the far reaches of wronged-womandom so not much I can say.

Apparently Hungarian girls are cute, I guess I'll see if they're less full-on.

Snapespeare · 14/12/2012 13:27

bant well done for being brave and doing it. Personally I would send a final text along the lines of 'I'm sorry you feel upset, but as I've previously stated, the only reason why I have ended things with you is because of (restate whatever it is) I do not feel it would be beneficial to either of us to remain friends especially as you seem to have such a low opinion of me..and you're a sperm-stealer I will not respond to further texts & wish you well.'

Snapespeare · 14/12/2012 13:28

...then turn your phone off for an hour and come back and tell us how many incandescent sweary texts you have from her

lulubellaboozle · 14/12/2012 13:40

snape !!! 'sits at foot of guillotine knitting furiously' - made me laugh!

Banta doesn't all this aftermath just confirm that it was indeed the right decision not that any of us were in any doubt about that

Yogagirl17 · 14/12/2012 13:43

You've done the right thing, I don't think there's much more you can do.

Apparently a lovely relative of mine is making a voodoo doll of my XH. Grin

Snapespeare · 14/12/2012 13:56

Kirsty well done for the cash for Yorkhill. It's a special place in my heart.

yoga isnt it funny how 'you' can nail an interview when you've already got a job! no nerves, you feel confident because you've already proven you can do it. I'm sure theres a dating analogy there.

bant scrub my last suggested text. replace with 'yes, I used you for sex. you were rubbish, but i thought i'd give you an opportunity to improve. The next time you were worse. That's why i'm dumping you. bye now' you'd lose ethical dating points, but it would be worth it.