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Bizarroville!! PoshBoys, Muppets, Surgeons, nurses, coffee addicts and RL - dating thread 27!

999 replies

lubeybooby · 05/11/2012 21:40

Roll up roll up get yer dating chat here... all kinds of dating...

Online, RL, established, new, join in and blether away!

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Scattylatte · 08/11/2012 18:27

Sponge, I dont have much luck either with even getting a date. You do far better than me in that respect. Id say I am 500 feet behind you. I get the "odd message" + no interest in real life. Sometimes it bothers me, sometimes it doesnt.
My latest collection of sub-marina is a man who said his name translates to "you bed": very appropriate for an OD site.
Ive got 2 men messaging me at the moment. Both not particulary interesting, sort of borderline red flag.
I bumped into an ex's ex the other day: our relationship ended badly when he basically chose to ignore me. I felt much better when his ex said he was a control fanatic and I dont know why, but I needed to the verification.
Like you Sponge, I am professional, upbeat, savvy and with it.
But I find dating stressful, insincere and mildly ridiculous.
Was LC really that wonderful? More wonderful than your most treasured friend? You only scratched his surface, you didnt know him. who cares if he never texts you again...he was a stranger. And now he hasnt text you, he isnt worth a second of your time.
If you knew him a year id be furious, but you knew him a few hours and neither of you have any obligation to contact each other.

Yogagirl17 · 08/11/2012 18:28

and watch - Amazing, well done you superstar you! Smile

snapespeare · 08/11/2012 18:32

sponge. I'm not saying anything, because everyone else has said and will say it, but I'm here to listen and send squishy-hugs when they are needed.

Don't you dare go anywhere. I'd miss your 'whiny self-absorption'

[wetfish] (but only for you thinking you're whiny and self obsessed. I am QUEEN of whiny self absorption and refuse to relinquish my shiny crown

Scattylatte · 08/11/2012 18:32

Here is another one who wants you to stay Sponge.

snapespeare · 08/11/2012 18:33

watch fab! Fab you!!

bant hurry up!

SweetSeraphim · 08/11/2012 18:33

I don't think you're whiny! Please don't go.

ike1 · 08/11/2012 18:33

De-lurking to say that I agree with faint and watch. I am a pretty self contained person infact verging on asexual if the truth be told. However the comfort of being with a careing partner is one that I would prefer to being single. So I can very much understand that for someone like yourself who has a libido and enjoys physical and emotional intimacy, years without such pleasures must at times feel very difficult.

SweetSeraphim · 08/11/2012 18:35

Bantam is too busy trying to get off with his giiiiirlfrieeeend Grin

faintheartneverwonfairdate · 08/11/2012 18:49

Ike1 to me, physical intimacy, being touched by someone, hugs are actual needs. When we have young children we still get the non sexual cuddles, touch others we care about and are openly loved. It is part of being human. The need for intimacy is also strong for me, to have a best friend who 'gets me' and I them and where also want to shag each other is wonderful.

I totally agree that healthy self esteem is essential to thrive on our own or in a relationship but no amount of self esteem will bring intimacy on a level that a partner does.

faintheartneverwonfairdate · 08/11/2012 18:52

Sorry Ike that sounds like I disagree with you, I don't! It was more that you being kind of asexual brought it home.

bantamrooster · 08/11/2012 18:57

Hello.

Sponge - not much I can add to what snape & watch etc have said. We think you're lovely, we've all been walking around grinning when we know you had a good time with LC, we hope things work out and we want you to stay on here.

All our hopes are crushed when things seem to be going badly, and we feel for you, we want things to work out too, whether with the poshboy or someone else. All I can say is it doesn't appear you've done anything wrong, so if you want to get annoyed, get annoyed at him, not yourself. Maybe he's busy, maybe he's a dick, we can't say. We do think you're awesome.

That said, second date with the nurse went - kind of okay? No huge snogging session like the first time, although that's kind of weird to do in the city centre mid afternoon. We sat, had food, had coffees, talked for hours, peoplewatched a bit and took the piss. Got to know each other a little better. I think it was a bit more matey this time than the first. We get on well and made each other laugh but the fancying bit kind of disappeared a little. Maybe. Not sure yet. I'm not sure if we enjoy taking the piss out of each other too much to actually want to rip each others clothes off.

We've got another date for Saturday, she's got the weekend free, so we'll see how it goes.

lubeybooby · 08/11/2012 19:04

Oh, sponge. What I've said has been taken completely the wrong way, honestly. I am very sorry, I edited and re-edited a million times before posting, trying to find the right words, but obviously have failed at conveying what I wanted to. So for that I am sorry.

I won't be sorry for being increasingly concerned about you though. I've said time and time again how damaging I think OD can be to the soul and self esteem and I stand by that. That isn't any kind of attack on you, it applies to anyone. God knows I've felt the effects of it myself, it chips away at you. It isn't as simple as just having a break either, to undo the damage.

Ok, so I haven't been in your exact position, and maybe the other people who agreed with me haven't either. But does that mean our opinions and empathies count for nothing, should be discounted and we should just shut up and watch OD keep damaging you and bringing you down, and say nothing? Not try and help at all? I'm not one for meaningless platitudes when it's clear that someone is in a lot of pain and I have an opinion on what could help make that pain go away.

Don't leave the thread. Please?

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snapespeare · 08/11/2012 19:08

I Get it too. If I go for a while (2 and a half years, remember..) without sex I don't think about it, I turn in on myself and throw myself into other things, but things have been so shitty of late that I was walking up from the train station on the way home tonight and I just wanted a hug from voldemort sure, I can go home and hug the DCs, but it really isn't the same don't worry, will NOT text him I could have cried but I walked on.

It's the fact that we all have SO much to give and it's ignored or rejected or fucking laughed at. It's cruel. I will not compromise me to limp through some shitty relationship with someone who will 'tolerate' me (snort!) I know what I want. I also know that there are very, very few men who will contemplate me; because of the DCs and all they bring, because I'm covered in tattoos but I like Shakespeare and classical music, museums, oddities...and I'm hideously geeky and bookish and prefer books to most people and because I'm generally smarter than about 90-odd % of the population (sorry, Blush). I don't tolerate fools or the emotionally unstable (clarity!) & my field is therefore severely limited.

It would be lovely, it truly would to come home to someone, to be loved and thought beautiful, to have in-jokes and be so excited to share new discoveries and favourite things, to sit together and read and not need to say anything. Might happen. Might not. All is well either way. Because it has to be. It doesn't mean I don't get lonely. It doesn't mean that I could do with a damn-good seeing to and it doesn't mean that I don't miss people. Hmm but it is what it is.

Yogagirl17 · 08/11/2012 19:10

sponge anyway it's true - snape is way more whiny and self obsessed than you Wink

snapespeare · 08/11/2012 19:12

Hurrah! Gratification!! Wink

bantamrooster · 08/11/2012 19:16

I'm sorry, if there's some kind of competition going on here, I win by default. I am far more whiny and self obsessed than anyone else on the thread

I am a man. I win.

snapespeare · 08/11/2012 19:18

Yes dear.

snapespeare · 08/11/2012 19:19

Look! A sexy nurse!

OhWesternWind · 08/11/2012 19:22

Sponge, I'm so sorry, didn't mean to hurt you or make you feel unwelcome. I posted out of genuine concern as you seem to be having such a rotten time of it. Take care and please don't go.

NicholasTeakozy · 08/11/2012 19:22

I have sent a whiny self obsessed pm to Sponge, therefore I win. Ner.

snapespeare · 08/11/2012 19:25

This does remind me of the war of the roses.

my crown.

Mine.

lubeybooby · 08/11/2012 19:33

I don't think any of you are whiny and self obsessed.

Must. try. harder!

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snapespeare · 08/11/2012 19:41

Clearly I am.

I have a CROWN!!!!

Wink
AndLibbyMakesThree · 08/11/2012 19:42

Sponge, I've been wanting to post all day and am finally getting the chance. I know others have pretty much said this already, but it's totally natural to want a partner. Look at how many people get married, and how many dating sites there are. Pretty much everyone has the choice of being single if they want to be, but virtually no one chooses it - at least long-term.

I agree with others - wanting affection, intimacy, wanting to share things with others, etc, is all a part of being human. Yes, of course it's ideal if we can be happy on our own, and our self-esteem shouldn't depend on being with a partner. But that's a damn sight easier said than done, especially when you've been single for a long time.

OD (in my experience) constantly raises your hopes and then dashes them. Emotionally it can be very difficult. And, as you say, again and again you've had bad luck, and in my opinion it's natural to look at yourself and wonder where you're going wrong - I do too.

When I was 31 I broke up with a (lovely) boyfriend (or rather he broke up with me). I was devastated. Friends kept saying "oh, you'll meet someone soon". When I said I didn't think I would, they acted as if I was being whiny and negative. But sadly I was right - I was 38 when I finally had another relationship. It was a soul-destroying time which I think really damaged my self-esteem. All my friends were finding partners, having children, etc, and I felt so lonely sometimes. An active social life does NOT make up for the lack of a partner.

Sorry, I've rambled on for ages but just want to say that I think I understand a little of what you're feeling. I know everyone on here just wants to help, because you come across as awesome - you're intelligent, have so much empathy, you're funny, sparkling ... honestly, that's how you come across to me.

Big hugs ... and please don't go away.

fayster · 08/11/2012 19:59

Whiny? Self-obsessed? Undatable? Can I enter this competition too, please?

I never win anything, though, so I won't win Snape's crown. Could I just have a 'highly commended' rosette, l please?

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