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Hollow laugh from the OW

581 replies

Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 21:22

I was the OW. As well as sweeping me off my naive feet into a 50 shades type sexual thrall, he convinced me that the marriage was dead, he'd hated her for years, he only stayed because he felt sorry she was going bald (!), they only had pity sex, she was horribly unstable and always threatening suicide, was a total hypochondriac, terrible mother, educationally bereft, emotionally subnormal and socially inept.

He made me feel absolutely beautiful and special and I couldn't do without it, nobody can make you feel better than an emotionally abusive man, it's almost an art form. They get inside your head and worm out your deepest dreams and promise to make them all come true. Then he makes them almost come true, but just dangles perfection out of reach.

You'll go mad trying to get there and you won't have the sense you were born with, the madness takes you over and morality won't enter it because you want to believe the fantasy more than you will listen to friends, family, conscience.

For all the wives who've been left by this type, sleep a little better knowing that less than two years on, the beautiful clever perfect wam they left you for discovers he's pulling the same stunt on new woman, and suddenly it's easy to see why the mental health issues arose.

Don't waste time begging him to come back, he has a cock where a heart should be and doesn't say a word that hasn't been carefully chosen to get exactly what he wants.

Thought it might give a wry smile tp those who have been there.

OP posts:
ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:20

Riiiight!

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:23

At the risk of sounding oh so insenstitive why dont you go and sit with your poor mum and help her to come to terms with what has happened at the hands of this OW and her husband. Time better spent methinks than trying to undermine someone who has been through hell, supported her kids to come to terms with their father pissing off with another woman, insured a roof over their heads, went back to college full time and tactfully stood back while OW and exH played happy families with her kids!

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 18:24

Oh grow up. You were expressing glee out of being vitriolic toward someone that was being pretty humble.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:25

Oh get a life! I just refused to play a stereotype so you thought you could have a go!

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:26

Like Autumn said earlier at least I am not dead! I am here I am angry and I care that I dont hurt people who have not set out to hurt others!

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 18:28

PP I really don't understand where you come from. You said your mum suffered herself. Nobody is here saying that cheating men are innocent souls who fall under the spell of wicked witches Everyone here blames them FIRST hand but to understate the part OW - whoever she is - plays in the whole situation and to say what the W should or shouldn't feel and also to come here defending the OP when she is not even bothered is far too weird. You are either the OP with a name change or are OW yourself. Sorry no intent to cause you offence.. If we want to bash OWhood we will and who are you to say we shouldn't.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:28

Honestly-I am taking from this thread that certain folk would love those of us who have been cheated on to be broken, down trodden, needing naice cups of tea.Lol! Not this mofo-I am a fighter! Have had to be it is what has pulled me through!

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 18:30

Go IKE go, I'm cheering for you!

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 18:30

At the risk of sounding insensitive? Ha ha ha. You know nothing about me. My mother is about to be sectioned, she's been on the edge for 9 months, I spend most of my time listening to her endlessly wailing. But thanks for your concern.

You don't just sound insensitive, you sound horrid, vile and a nasty piece of work.

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 18:33

PP bet you were such a good help trying to defending your dad's OW while your own mum she is suffering.....I can hear you saying: - Please mum have some humanity, it is not her fault if dad could keep his trousers on.....-

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:34

So do you PP. You know little about me really and the incredibly sensitive tactful way I have handled this awful landmine that exploded on out heads. I have many friends and they have all been very supportive at the way I have handled stuff! Oh and btw I had to have my poor old mum sectioned as a legacy from my fathers abusive behaviour.

LineRunner · 22/10/2012 18:34

Please stop it now. It's pointless.

Bogeyface · 22/10/2012 18:35

Does she PP?

Because I wonder how your mum would feel about you, if she heard you defending the woman who helped your father along this road.

I am bloody sure that my attitude towards my DD would change if I heard her defending the woman my H had an affair with.

Seems to me that there is more to this than you are saying. If my father had an affair and he and his OW caused my mother to be sectioned I would have loathing and hatred for them both. At no point would I be saying "well, she played a good game!" FFS!!!

LineRunner · 22/10/2012 18:36

One thing I will take away positively from this thread is that it is kind of normal to feel devastated.

Why do we get left holding the babies, by the way?

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:36

Mmmm I am oh so horrible... refusing the advances of my friends husband - nasty piece of work me! Lol!

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 18:37

I haven't defended anyone's OW, just the OP and I haven't defended her actions, but believe that it wasn't her marriage it was his.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:37

Yep LineRunner I hear you.

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 18:38

If my father/husband or anyone breaks their vows it is their fault and theirs alone.

Seriously is that so hard to understand?

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 18:38

It is pointless I agree. I bet someone else will come here later saying : oh I don't understand why those scorned wives dare to blame poor OW, their husband were cunts and they chose wrongly. ..... I don't think I can read another on like this. Think I'm gonna hide the thread now. Thanks OP for the opportunity to release some anger and for the reassurance that I'm a better person than coward selfish cheaters.

Bogeyface · 22/10/2012 18:38

line because babies arent part of the fairytale are they?

you cant have a 24/7 shagfest if the baby needs feeding or the kids need picking up from school.

You cant pretend you are 25 and carefree again when the evidence that you are 40 with responsibilities is standing at the door waiting for you take them to Brownies. Hmm

Bogeyface · 22/10/2012 18:40

If my father/husband or anyone breaks their vows it is their fault and theirs alone.

Everyone is agreeing with that. What we are saying though is that the OW still has some blame to take for the affair.

If the man has an affair then that is his choice. But a woman who facilitates that affair by going with a married man must also accept that she takes some of the blame. No one can have an affair all on their own, and the affair partner, whilst not the vow or promise breaker, is still partly responsible for it.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:41

Linerunner I am absolutely disgusted by PP but out of respect for you and I know you have been through shit I will stop reacting to PPs nonsense.

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 18:41

It is not hard to understand at all PP but don't you come here trying to regulate what the W should feel and say about the OW.

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catsrus · 22/10/2012 18:44

well - I feel I do have the right to comment, having been left for the younger (softer and more 'feminine') model 2 yrs ago. I have not found myself taking the promised early retirement (I am almost 60) as I now have no pension and I've been taking whatever work I could get, all temporary, to delay having to cash in the family home. I too have had to support my kids through their father's abandonment to play happy families (not only with a new W but a new little sd too). I have had to make sure they don't start thinking that their entire happy childhood was a mirage because nothing seems certain any more.

Yes I am angry with their father for that - but I will not let anyone, especially him, rewrite history and say we were not in love and we were not happy. We were in love and we were happy for many years. With the benefit of hindsight and being honest with myself I can now pretty much spot the point it all began to change - but like someone upthread I believed that respect and trust were the bedrocks of a marriage when "feeling" in love was not always there. My exH wanted the feelings and that's what he went for. Yes the OW knew he was married but he was the one who did not walk away, he was the one who betrayed his vows, he was the one who chose not address the problems. It was not that he left but the manner of his leaving that caused most pain.

Having said all that I pretty much agree with Posie on how this thread has developed - and I am eternally grateful that I have not allowed myself to be dragged down by feelings of hatred and bitterness towards anyone.

The opposite of love is not hatred - both tie you to someone with unbreakable threads as your emotions are pulled around by what happens to them - the opposite of love is indifference. In my opinion the only way to survive with humanity is to detach, it's a work in progress for me but I'm glad I'm going in that direction.

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