Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Hollow laugh from the OW

581 replies

Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 21:22

I was the OW. As well as sweeping me off my naive feet into a 50 shades type sexual thrall, he convinced me that the marriage was dead, he'd hated her for years, he only stayed because he felt sorry she was going bald (!), they only had pity sex, she was horribly unstable and always threatening suicide, was a total hypochondriac, terrible mother, educationally bereft, emotionally subnormal and socially inept.

He made me feel absolutely beautiful and special and I couldn't do without it, nobody can make you feel better than an emotionally abusive man, it's almost an art form. They get inside your head and worm out your deepest dreams and promise to make them all come true. Then he makes them almost come true, but just dangles perfection out of reach.

You'll go mad trying to get there and you won't have the sense you were born with, the madness takes you over and morality won't enter it because you want to believe the fantasy more than you will listen to friends, family, conscience.

For all the wives who've been left by this type, sleep a little better knowing that less than two years on, the beautiful clever perfect wam they left you for discovers he's pulling the same stunt on new woman, and suddenly it's easy to see why the mental health issues arose.

Don't waste time begging him to come back, he has a cock where a heart should be and doesn't say a word that hasn't been carefully chosen to get exactly what he wants.

Thought it might give a wry smile tp those who have been there.

OP posts:
ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:45

Its hard to say Autumn, but I know and I can tell that you also are having genuine and open responses to this. If some think its not humanitarian - then hey ho!

Bogeyface · 22/10/2012 18:45

Well autumn I do think that there is more to it than she is letting on. "She played a good game"? Really? Thats what Olympic Silver medalists say about the gold medalists, not what a DD says about his fathers mistress! ......unless she is one of the Borgias!

Bogeyface · 22/10/2012 18:45

her fathers

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:47

catsrus- I respect your point of view I am really glad you have found serenity- but it is really ok to get angry and a bit shouty at having been treated like shit! I laugh, I love, I most certainly am not angry all the time. I am 'working through it'.

Bogeyface · 22/10/2012 18:48

Catrus would you ever defend her though? Would ever insist that she should be felt sorry for or empathised with?

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:50

But I get shouty and angry at being told to have humanity for an OW when I have just revealled some really painful events as part of a break up caused in part by an OW. Catsrus we all have our ways of dealing with it and I hope we all reacha happier place in the end. But anger is an energy and I find often more positive than crashing despondency.

catsrus · 22/10/2012 18:58

to be honest I do feel sorry for her, I think it must poison the soul to do what she did. It is incredibly sad that she has so little self-regard and was so desperate to be married. I think she is a sad, pathetic, woman whose own adored father walked out on her and her mother when she was the same age as my dcs and she didn't see him for years.

I don't much like her - and I'll be honest and admit I have a few choice put-downs well rehearsed should we ever meet Grin - but I certainly am not going to waste any of my emotional energy hating her. If I were to get angry then I would be letting them have the power to control my emotions, I don't choose to do that. Pity is much more satisfying Wink

BloodRedAlienReflux · 22/10/2012 19:01

Maybe she is lying about her Mum, seems V. strange, but don't think she's the OP

ike1 · 22/10/2012 19:01

Well we choose our weapons catsrus as long as they work for us then that's all good!

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 19:09

Lucky you Catsrus. People heal differently as their experiences are different too. For me at the moment feeling sorry for 'my' OW is not an option. Yet. But as you said I don't even want to get to the stage to feel sorry. I would rather feel indifferent as you said. Unfortunately sometimes we can't control our feelings.

GhostShip · 22/10/2012 19:14

I wish I could feel indifferant, but I can't.

My stepdad cheated on my mum with our next door but one neighbour (im not even joking)
This woman knew my mum, her son was friends with my brother, my brother stopped over at her house, she took him on holiday.. she came round for chats every now and again, was knocking on the door when an ambulance had to come for my sdad and offering kind words to my mum.

All the time she was shagging my mums partner of 19 years.

I was the one who found out. What an awful position I was in and I blame the pair of them. She didn't even have the decency to apologise.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 20:03

Oh god Ghost ship- nothing quite as awful as that but a 'friend' of mine did something similar- kind of befriending the wife of the man she is shagging but slagging her off behind her back. Had to give the 'friend' the order of the boot eventually as although we had been ok as mates and I tried to remain impartial, her actions began to turn my stomach.

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 20:11

Autumn....I have been on Mumsnet since 2008.

GhostShip · 22/10/2012 20:12

ike - horrible isn't it. I would have done the same as you did, I couldn't be friends with someone who thought that was acceptable

Dahlen · 22/10/2012 20:13

This has become extremely unpleasant and the personal attacks on PosieParker are dangerously close to breaking MN Talk guidelines. I appreciate this is very close to home for some posters and allowances have to be made for that, but let's keep it to the abstract please. It benefits no one if the thread goes tits up.

catsrus · 22/10/2012 20:22

"unfortunately we can't sometimes control our feelings"

If that were true autumn then how can we blame men who have affairs - or OW?

We might not be able to control what we feel - whether its attraction or anger - but we can control what we do about them. Just as I expect my husband not to act on attraction to another woman so i expect myself not to act on feelings of anger. Just as I believe that his feelings of attraction could have been kept under control and would eventually die out - so I believe feelings of anger will die out.

I'm not talking about denying feelings and burying them - but acknowledging them and moving on. I refuse to be the bitter angry victim. The person that would most hurt is me - that is not who I am and I will stay true to who I am. And yes that means having compassion for people who do me wrong.

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 20:24

Yes

Dandythelion · 22/10/2012 20:33

I have been at work today; I assure you I am not Posy, though I admire her bravery. As mentioned, the thread has become a different conversation to that I had originally envisaged. I will make three observations before I change back my name and leave this thread permanently.

  1. I did not post for sympathy or forgiveness from anyone on this forum.
  2. I am AN OW not YOUR OW and as such do not believe that I am under any obligation to respond to personal invective.
  3. I have come to terms with the choices and decisions and mistakes I have made, I accept myself and I have found peace. I sincerely wish the same for many of the posters here who are clearly struggling.
Thank you all for an interesting exchange.
OP posts:
PosieParker · 22/10/2012 20:35

My parents lived in China, my father is a cliche as he has fucked off with a local. She is piss poor and would do anything to escape her poverty stricken life. She is one of thousands that will do anything to get a Westerner.

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 20:38

Dandy I hope you are alright. Personally if it weren't husband you had an affair with I wouldn't have blamed youSmile he is a looker. I do wish you success on finding an unattached man.

KennethParcell · 22/10/2012 20:38

how can men bear to lose the respect of their children like that Posie?

I thought that the OP gave interesting perspective. It was a pain to see her berated as tbh I'd find it interesting to have more women in 'her shoes' post.

LineRunner · 22/10/2012 20:48

KennethParcell Mon 22-Oct-12 20:38:14
how can men bear to lose the respect of their children like that Posie?

Good question.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 20:51

Dahlen MN HQ will delete any posts they deem unacceptable so dont worry too much!

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 20:53

I have no idea how anyone risks their family, their kids happiness etc. But I can imagine a situation where someone feels lonely and meets someone nice who bleats on about how they have a miserable existence and then gets close, finding out s/hes married.

I can also imagine being so miserable in a marriage that an affair becomes an attractive proposition.

I can also imagine the over entitled person who thinks they can do whatever they like and get away with it, where their wife is viewed as part of the furniture and not respected or cherished.

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 20:53

ike1 posts need reporting to be removed.