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Hollow laugh from the OW

581 replies

Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 21:22

I was the OW. As well as sweeping me off my naive feet into a 50 shades type sexual thrall, he convinced me that the marriage was dead, he'd hated her for years, he only stayed because he felt sorry she was going bald (!), they only had pity sex, she was horribly unstable and always threatening suicide, was a total hypochondriac, terrible mother, educationally bereft, emotionally subnormal and socially inept.

He made me feel absolutely beautiful and special and I couldn't do without it, nobody can make you feel better than an emotionally abusive man, it's almost an art form. They get inside your head and worm out your deepest dreams and promise to make them all come true. Then he makes them almost come true, but just dangles perfection out of reach.

You'll go mad trying to get there and you won't have the sense you were born with, the madness takes you over and morality won't enter it because you want to believe the fantasy more than you will listen to friends, family, conscience.

For all the wives who've been left by this type, sleep a little better knowing that less than two years on, the beautiful clever perfect wam they left you for discovers he's pulling the same stunt on new woman, and suddenly it's easy to see why the mental health issues arose.

Don't waste time begging him to come back, he has a cock where a heart should be and doesn't say a word that hasn't been carefully chosen to get exactly what he wants.

Thought it might give a wry smile tp those who have been there.

OP posts:
PosieParker · 22/10/2012 17:17

Empathy is not humanity.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:21

Whatever PP humanity. You have some humanity for the women who have been hurt by the actions of OW.

bochead · 22/10/2012 17:22

Posieparker -

Noone is forced to stay in an unhappy marriage - however individuals CHOOSE to treat their existing partners to deceit, dishonesty on every level by having affairs, rather than making a clean break.

It's infantile behavior at the end of the day - waiting until you can grab hold of someone elses apron strings before letting go instead of behaving like an honest adult and allowing your partner and children the decency of a dignified exit. An open and honest relationship end also paves the way for a true friendship between two people who should have the welfare the children as a shared priority for the rest of their lives, no matter what the romantic status of their relationship is.

Once kids are involved there is never a clean break from the other parenno matter how old those children are. Why create intergenerational dysfunction? The kids will grow up and there will be family weddings, christenings etc for the Grandkids. Those events and relationships can all be tainted by the original deceit of the affair.

It was the deceit that hurt me most emotionally, far more so than the fact that he upped and left when I was at my most vulnerable. OW phoned me to tell me she was shagging my man, or I wouldn't have found out till much later. Years later I still gasp at the cowardly cruelty my ex & his OW (herself a Mum) displayed. However the ultimate responsibility lies with him.

The pair of them then spent months going around telling my family and friends the most awful lies, about me. Again I didn't find out till afterwards, given that thankfully my friends chose to wait until my son was out of medical danger. I wouldn't have given a damn if I had known tbh - a very sick baby tends to give you tunnel vision about your priorities.

Agree too that the media does not portray the true fall out from infidelity. Woman are instead castigated as single mothers, when often they are the ones literally left holding the baby.

OwlLady · 22/10/2012 17:23

Why is it the original posters fault? I am not suggesting what she did wasn't wrong, because it was, but the main fault is of that of the husband who had an affair behind his wifes back, not the OP. He was the one who let people down and betrayed people.

if women keep their knickers on men wont cheat, purlease.

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 17:23

But you had an affair with the same woman - OW - who is now your W, correct OMC? Did you know she would be thee for you when you decided to leave? Did you keep in touch? Sorry I don't know your story. If you send me a link of one of your threads I can read it later if you don't mind.

OwlLady · 22/10/2012 17:24

Agree too that the media does not portray the true fall out from infidelity. Woman are instead castigated as single mothers, when often they are the ones literally left holding the baby

I agree with this too :(

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:25

Oh and PP it was the way you worded it like you were exasperate with my temerity to find the OP's post patronising! That is where I found your post particularly offensive!

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:28

Adultery is a selfish act perpetrated by two people. Nobody should stay in an unhappy marriage-that I can agree with, but find a way to leave with dignity..

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:29

Look for support from friends, family, support agencies whatever...not by fucking another person!

GhostShip · 22/10/2012 17:30

Why is it the original posters fault? I am not suggesting what she did wasn't wrong, because it was, but the main fault is of that of the husband who had an affair behind his wifes back, not the OP. He was the one who let people down and betrayed people

No-one is saying anything of the contrary. Everyone has said that he is at fault. Moreso. But the OW is never innocent if she knows about the wife and children

Bogeyface · 22/10/2012 17:38

posie I fail to see how the OP posting here is in anyway going to make amends for what she did.

Will it make his ex feel better? No. Will it make those of us who were cheated on feel better? no.

And I am frankly gobsmacked that despite seeing what it has done to your mother, you attach not blame to the woman who, in your own words, enticed your father into bed. He is to blame for going with her yes, but she does hold some responsibility for what happened. He was married, he wasnt on the market and she had no right to go all out to "win" herself a better life by using what is between her legs.

I have no empathy whatsoever for any woman who has a choice about shagging a married man. You do that then you remove yourself from any chance of understanding or empathy or indeed humanity in my book.

LineRunner · 22/10/2012 17:38

My DCs were and are very unhappy that their father chose to abandon them. That is their reality. They are teenagers now and not oblivious to how he prioritised his life.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:41

Mmm but god forbid if we ex wives and mothers start 'shouting' on threads and show our anger and gosh yes not have a particularly humanitarian outlook towards OW. No, better we shut up behave with decorum and have a naice cup of tea! Lol!

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 17:43

Life is not so simple.

The woman that snared my father, di so almost literally. She went into Western restaurants looking, a place where locals never go, she played a good game and got him. But no woman, no matter who she is can snare the husband that refuses to cheat.

Cheating is always an opportunity and circumstance away, it's just whether it's worth the lies, deceit, hurt etc. I'm guessing for many men on here (by proxy) it was worth it, or so they thought when they decided to do it.

My wording to you ike1 was such because you were being pretty nasty.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:43

Aw Linerunner that is what I was worried about for my kids and I bent over backwards to insure access but if the ex and OW are not participating there is not much you can do. My commiserations.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:45

Look PP I have a right to be angry and to find the OP patronising. But you were in my opinion rude and offensive! You had read what I had been through, the court case etc and yet you thought I should take a humanitarian point of view towards an OW - well not on this thread!

LineRunner · 22/10/2012 17:46

I'm expect my ExH rationalises his behaviour by pretending that what he did shows how much he really loves his kids.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:47

God yeah they tend to be masters of rationalising to their own advantage-much like some OWs!

pausingforbreath · 22/10/2012 17:58

Feel the need to comment on this one.
When my H came home and told me if his 'OW', a co worker. My world crashed.

I did tell him that although she probably 'knew' lots about me and our children , I didn't know much about her. I knew she was single , a lot younger than me ; but her character I couldn't judge as I hadn't met her. She could be 'lovely' but I had been kept ignorant of her.
I did say the only thing I KNEW for certain was that ,what I shat out of myself contained more standards, morals and decency than she could ever hope for in her whole body and mind. To knowingly sleep with a married man with children was far lower than I could ever go ...
I stated I had more self respect than that .

The only time she showed herself in an unfavourable light to him
( apparently, without my knowledge me and her were in a competition for him). Was at the time when he told her it was off, that he would not be leaving me for her and if he had given her hope of it happening- it was false hope.
She went ballistic , he 'suddenly' became a lying, cheating, deceitful bastard. Etc.
I stated that that in itself was ironic ; ' their' whole relationship had been based on those values . Yet the only time those lack of values had become a bad thing to her was when they didn't suit her - and she felt deceived by promises he had made to her and didn't keep.
Do I feel sympathy for her and her shattered dreams ? Not a chance.
What goes around , comes around.

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 18:02

Whatever humanity I may, or may not, feel for you has nothing to do with the OP. You are more than welcome to copy and paste my posts that you found offensive.

You have a right to be angry, not one to be offensive.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:12

Well guess what Posy you do not have the right to be offensive either! And indeed you will be told clearly by me when you have been. Tough if you dont like it!

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 18:14

Please copy and paste.... I think you'll be hard pushed.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:17

Jesus have some humanity Posie Parker!

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 18:19

That's offensive? Really? Asking you to have some humanity is offensive?

Riiiiight.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 18:19

Yep you being the humanitarian individual that you so obviously are PP, chose to tell me to 'jesus have some humanity' for the OP almost straightaway after I had explained my battle at the courts with the ex and his ow holding his hand..mmm sooo sensitive!