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Hollow laugh from the OW

581 replies

Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 21:22

I was the OW. As well as sweeping me off my naive feet into a 50 shades type sexual thrall, he convinced me that the marriage was dead, he'd hated her for years, he only stayed because he felt sorry she was going bald (!), they only had pity sex, she was horribly unstable and always threatening suicide, was a total hypochondriac, terrible mother, educationally bereft, emotionally subnormal and socially inept.

He made me feel absolutely beautiful and special and I couldn't do without it, nobody can make you feel better than an emotionally abusive man, it's almost an art form. They get inside your head and worm out your deepest dreams and promise to make them all come true. Then he makes them almost come true, but just dangles perfection out of reach.

You'll go mad trying to get there and you won't have the sense you were born with, the madness takes you over and morality won't enter it because you want to believe the fantasy more than you will listen to friends, family, conscience.

For all the wives who've been left by this type, sleep a little better knowing that less than two years on, the beautiful clever perfect wam they left you for discovers he's pulling the same stunt on new woman, and suddenly it's easy to see why the mental health issues arose.

Don't waste time begging him to come back, he has a cock where a heart should be and doesn't say a word that hasn't been carefully chosen to get exactly what he wants.

Thought it might give a wry smile tp those who have been there.

OP posts:
PosieParker · 22/10/2012 17:01

ike1 You are getting on my nerves now.

You have accused me of being tactless and insensitive. Neither of which are true.

I was not insensitive to you (the prospect does amuse me though, how you can even accuse anyone of that with the way you phrase your posts) by asking you to show someone some humanity. I am not being tactless toward you by expressing a desire that someone is happy.

If this thread is too painful for you I suggest you look elsewhere.

garlicbaguette · 22/10/2012 17:03

Ike, have you noticed you're shouting all over this thread? It's clear you don't know much of OMC's history; have you thought that perhaps some other posters are more aware of the backstory? PP told you she didn't like you insulting her father and your response is to have another go at her.

You claim the right to tell us your own feelings - over and over again - but want to deny others the right to share theirs. You're being quite obnoxious. You could do with getting some perspective. Go and have a cup of tea. I mean that in the most patronising way possible.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:03

Quite the opposite PP I am finding this extremely therapeutic! You told me what I should think! Humanity indeed! You read what I had been through! If I am getting on your nerves perhaps you should leave!

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 17:03

And I think everyone has a right not to be bullied, including the OP. Of course people are cowards, we all are at some point in our lives. It's human nature.

OwlLady · 22/10/2012 17:03

so people who have had affairs are fair game at the hands of abuse? is that seriously what some of you are suggesting? Shock

please forgive me if I am wrong as I did somewhat skim read

OneMoreChap · 22/10/2012 17:04

AutumnGlory
Also OMC, you were the coward cheater blaming your wife for your appalling behaviour.

In what way?
My XW was extremely abusive, and I was horrified to recognise that nowadays it would have classed as DV.

I've always said I shouldn't have cheated.

You say you are happy now. Why don't you go live in your fluffy pink cloud with your OW

ITYM my DW for 10+ years....

and let's us here relieve what we think about cheater on Op's expense?

Good.
And you will, of course, do the courtesy to another parent to let them point out that there is more than one type of cheater...

She asked for it as far as I'm concerned and I'm finding it very liberating.

Did she say otherwise?

Happylander · 22/10/2012 17:04

What I would like for ex twat and his whore is for them both to stay together and be as miserable in their relationship because they feel to old to go their separate ways.

I would quite happily chop his balls off and poke burning sticks into her eyes.

Deserve everything they get.

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 17:05

ike1 I guess that says a lot about you.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:05

garlic dont need tea. I have throughly enjoyed a lovely workout. I have empathised with those who in my opinion have suffered real hurt and yeas if I wish to voice what i have been through then that is the point of mumsnet..no?

GhostShip · 22/10/2012 17:06

And I think everyone has a right not to be bullied, including the OP. Of course people are cowards, we all are at some point in our lives. It's human nature

In all fairness what exactly did she expect from this topic? Feels of love and forgiveness? She's not being bullied, there's just many people trying to put the same point across which may come across as bullying. She opened herself up for people's opinions, and whether she likes them or not she has been given them.

tiredofwaitingforitalltochange · 22/10/2012 17:07

Posie you are right. Men have always had affairs. But the internet makes it so, so much easier. You can be anyone you want to on there. And it is harder to meet people for genuine relationships as well, because the social networks and extended families that people used to live in no longer exist. The internet fills the gap.

Cheating bastards + lonely single women meet on the internet all the time. And the woman often doesn't find out he's married until she does a little FB snooping, or whatever. By which time she might have slept with him, or think herself in love with him.

And he knows what he is looking for, sticks his wedding ring in the glove compartment as he parks up for the first date...

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:07

It says alot about you PP that you would rather protect the rights of a woman who is prepared to screw over other females and yet not empathise with those who have been through hell at the hands of similar.

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 17:08

So you refuse to acknowledge OMC and his suffering at the hands of his abuser and how his escape was the OW? Does that not fit neatly into your box labelled 'all people that cheat are bastards'? I don't blame him for cheating, perhaps his self esteem was so low that he didn't think he could leave and then having someone else care for him made him think he could.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:11

My god so therefor cos I have been through shit I should just find someone's husband to fuck after all I deserve some comfort.. I have been abused..I would rather chew my own hand off!

OwlLady · 22/10/2012 17:12

We all make mistakes, that doesn't mean someone deserves to be abused ffs, whether that be a man or a woman.

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 17:12

She might be your wife I'd 19087653 years but she will always be your OW, OMC. You may be sorry but the past can't be changed nor your actions. And I thought you said you cheated because your XW was abusive. Should have left before cheating. I know people make mistakes. But cheating will never be acceptable like some people here are trying to make it be. I know it is not the OW fault if the husband cheats. But if there were no woman accepting to be OWs the husband would have to end the marriage the right way. I'm not even saying we should rely on our sisters to keep our husband penis inside their pants, obviously we don't live in an ideal world. But at the end of the day the cheaters are the villains. Don't want to be the villain? Do the right thing. Or leave with the consequences. OP asked for it because she posted here. Nobody is forcing her to read the thread. If it too much for her she can always run away...hopefully not to the arms of another married man

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 17:12

No ike1, what it says about me is that when someone does something with a humble demeanor and a positive motive I think it's completely shitty to attack them and unleash your own anger, about your own marriage, upon them as if they're 'fair game'. OP was obviously trying to make amends of some kind.

AutumnGlory · 22/10/2012 17:12

Yes I know I'm bitter and it is part of my healing process, at least I didn't kill myself thank you very much.

Fishwife1949 · 22/10/2012 17:13

Just not sure why your self asteam was so low you would shag somone who talked about another women that way let the mother of his chikdren and his wife

And as for pity fuck Confused If women like you kept your legs shut men wouldnt be able to cheat

Awful and for the recored op most women dont "beg back " there husbands because they dont know they are cocks mostly they are trying to save there chikdren the heart brake of growing up with out a father and a step mother who resents them

After all a women who would shag another womens husband is hardly going to be a selfless stepmother

GhostShip · 22/10/2012 17:13

So you refuse to acknowledge OMC and his suffering at the hands of his abuser and how his escape was the OW?

I know you're not replying to me there, but I just wanted to say that would never ever wash with me.
I had a very very abusive ex who I found it really hard to leave. My self esteem was low, my confidence was shattered. There's someone I did like, and he did help me to leave, but as a friend. Not a lover. Once the relationship was over I then allowed it to grow into something more and now we are very happy together and have been for a while. I could have cheated, but I didn't. Everyone has got the choice to do the right thing, and if they dont, even in an abusive relationship, they have to answer to that.

ike1 · 22/10/2012 17:14

Well goody for her PP but as someone who has been through hell at the hands of an other woman I found her post patronising! I dont need you to tell me to have empathy!

OneMoreChap · 22/10/2012 17:14

PosieParker thanks for the empathy.

I do deserve blame for cheating; I broke my marriage vows by adultery. I should have broken them by leaving instead.

Oh, and tiredofwaitingforitalltochange
Cheating female bastards + single men meet on the internet too, you know...

Fishwife1949 · 22/10/2012 17:14

Please dont come one here trying to make amends just keep your knickers on next time yuk

OneMoreChap · 22/10/2012 17:16

oh - and my affair was long ended before I left XW. I'd gone back to try and do "the decent thing".

I lasted about another year.

PosieParker · 22/10/2012 17:16

OMC your vows were already broken, by your wife.

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