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Sofas and Slankets V Irregular choice shoes and Snogging - Dating Thread 23

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watchoutforthatsnail · 28/09/2012 10:14

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watchoutforthatsnail · 08/10/2012 10:52

29 and a half.

bloody ridiclous.

i have asked him at what point he might consider himself an adult, but he said he didnt know and hadnt done most things normal people had.

So - like i say, its like dating a 15 year old boy. essentially since i am 34 this is not good.

and why i know he might take the news worse than some kind of normal reaction.

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snapespeare · 08/10/2012 11:04

I think the thing to do is to just be very clear, put it terms that he will understand...am i right in thinking he's borderline ASD, or am I making that up?

Movingforward123 · 08/10/2012 11:39

Well it's not your problem that a man of his age considers himself to be a child!

He's a waste of your time, do he's got to go!

mercury7 · 08/10/2012 11:54

Watch he wants to stay with you so I'd say it's in his interests to portray himself to you as childlike and vulnerable, I'm not suggesting that this is a deliberate strategy. more his 'instinctive' response to get what he feels he needs.
You are sort of colluding by having conversations about whether or not he's a grown up?
Not trying to blame you, you clearly care about peoples feelings and dont want to hurt him, but he knows/feels this and is bound to use it.

Again I'm not suggesting that all this is calculated, more emotional gut reaction.

It's very difficult but he is an ADULT MAN, I'd say he's got it in him to behave like one if he has to:)
Good luck:)

mercury7 · 08/10/2012 12:00

and my position in the dating sitting room is as follows...I have slid completely off the sofa and am now near to the coffee table:o

DoingItForMyself · 08/10/2012 12:25

I have sloped completely off the sofa up to POF man's bedroom!

watchoutforthatsnail · 08/10/2012 12:39

no, it came from ( several ) conversations, where he says ' im not adult enough to have options on that' or shit along those lines, which ive ignored. This last time he said something about only one adult living in his house and i said ' no, theres two' and he said no, just one as he isnt an adult. So - i snapped and asked him when the hell did he think he would be a grown up. Not colluding at all actually.. very very narked.

snape - i ( and time) think so, yes. Asperbergers, which probably compounds the whole thinking hes not a grown up thing? but i dont know enough about it to say. i just know its not for me. Apols to anyone who knows anything with it, or anything, its not a slur.

anyway - he will be gone thur evening.

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mercury7 · 08/10/2012 12:47

im not adult enough to have options on that' or shit along those lines, which ive ignored. This last time he said something about only one adult living in his house and i said ' no, theres two' and he said no, just one as he isnt an adult

wow..he is weird!! Confused

JoylessFucker · 08/10/2012 12:54

watch I've been observing this whole 'dump the puppy' thing and knowing that I'd be less inclined to so do because everyone else was being mean to/about him which would then bring out my nurturing and 'be kind to the puppy' side.

But from personal experience, suggesting continuing friendship/contact unless there are exceptional reasons why you consider that would work for you both is a really bad idea, because it nearly always leads to one person having false hope which inevitably leads to greater hurt.

JoylessFucker · 08/10/2012 12:58

Oh and a personal moan from me. Having paid up in order to communicate with someone who appeared interesting rather than attractive, now there's radio silence despite continuing site useage. Bloody typical

snapespeare · 08/10/2012 13:05

yes, thought so -I dont think the 'not a grown up' thing is an indicator, more some of his rituals, inability to process and difficulties in relationships/reading signals - (PM is borderline spectrum as is DS1)

can i reccomend wrong planet as an excellent aspie forum - i do believe that you're trying to do the right thing for both of you, but he won't take in information in the same way and will react differently to NT folk. I think a logical progressive argument would be your best bet - if he is AS, then you might get some good ideas for progression by asking on wrong planet

...and may I be the first to tell you foof to SHUT THE HELL UP! Wink

watchoutforthatsnail · 08/10/2012 13:22

joyless - im not even some massivley nurtering type!! lol. its just not me, which is why, perhaps, im narked by it. He maybe needs to be with somone more like that. not me.

Ive tryed the logical thing a few weeks ago - and the he said he could see why i would think that, but that he had no idea. I then tried to explain the facct that he had no idea, was in itself a problem. And that it wasnt him, nor me, but maybe we just didnt fit well together. It was super logical.

My foof is being silenced!!!!!

I will check out the site, it might help. Thanks

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Yogagirl17 · 08/10/2012 13:26

LOL at mercury & doingit falling off the sofa! I would say my arse is still firmly on the sofa...but my legs might be sliding off! Grin

watch, if he is AS all the more reason not to suggest the friends thing, you need the message to be crystal clear. Also, I get the 'treat people how you would like to be treated' - which for me at least would be all the more reason to be honest. There is nothing i have learned to appreciate more in this last year than truth. But maybe for you the need to be gentle about this trumps the need for cold, hard truth. That's ok. Whatever your decision is, its ok, I just wish you wouldn't be so hard on yourself. xx

watchoutforthatsnail · 08/10/2012 13:40

thanks yoga - im not being hard on myself, its just not a nice thing to do, and you know, only a week ago he was giving me a birthday present. I will leave the friends thing aside.

Theres the truth, and the sugar coating something, and i just think, knowing him, he wont understand the truth, so im going to blame myself.... its just easier.

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FateLovesTheFearless · 08/10/2012 15:07

Watch - just tell him straight. Don't dress it up to spare feelings, as nasty as that sounds. You need to be direct and don't leave any room for debate. A simple: whilst I have been away, I have been doing some thinking. We are two very different people and I know we don't have a future together. I am certain of my decision and am ending this relationship. All the best.

Then don't respond to any further communication. Break ups are horrible but he will move on and you may even help him to grow up. Just be careful not to encourage him in any way to think there is any chance.

As for leaving you hanging Grin okay I will spill Smile

So background. Met PMF (platonic male friend) when I started my college course end of August. We made friends straight away partly because we were at the time, the only smokers in the class and because we were at the time, the two oldest. We are also pretty well matched in what we know regarding the course we are doing so when we had to be in a group we paired up. After college he would come back to mine before going to work and muck about with the kids, do assignments. He never flirted etc and I was still with S so we were just college mates, nothing more.

Fast forward to last week. We were out with two of my friends at a karaoke night getting drunk, dancing and singing. He pulled me up for a dance and whilst I was laughing my head off at his bizarre dancing he just leaned down and kissed me. I was Confused and Hmm and Blush for about five seconds then kissed him back. We even got a round of applause from the bar haha!

He later told me he had a crush on me from the very first day of college Blush before the karaoke bar I had never really thought of him that way, because I was still with someone and because he is five years younger than me Blush but I realised I do actually like him and we have started tentatively seeing each other on the basis of nothing serious, just...fun. The end. Grin

hatesponge · 08/10/2012 15:12

watch I think you probably know him well enough to know best way to approach it, leave the friends bit out and all should be ok. good luck, it's not nice having to dump someone because they're wrong for you, and you know they will be hurt, but you will feel 100% better once it's done :)

No dating here (still!). And in other news we have an emergency work meeting tomorrow in which it looks like we're going to be told we're losing our jobs...or being redeployed to another office 25 miles away which I (and most of my colleagues) can't travel to.

All a bit :(

watchoutforthatsnail · 08/10/2012 16:52

fate!!! ah - thats fab. Im pleased. Its nice to have some fun :)

sponge- what??!?! my goodness, i hope that isnt the case....

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KirstyWirsty · 08/10/2012 17:52

Hopefully the news isn't as bad as the rumours sponge

Well Mr Cheeky from work has turned into the male equivalent of a bunny boiler .. Looks like the red flags were totally spot on and I am so well rid.. And so glad I didn't shag him!!! Hmm

snapespeare · 08/10/2012 19:22

sponge sending hope and love! :)

Have spent the best part of what is left of my day cutting out butterflies. Now onto small fish. Utterly fed up with the notebook, the end is in sight! In more ways than one Thank fuck.

scrablet · 08/10/2012 19:43

Oh sponge, what grim news. Hope you ok?

OhWesternWind · 08/10/2012 19:54

Sponge - sending you crossed everything for a good outcome tomorrow

Movingforward123 · 08/10/2012 20:43

well I'm now feeling abit crap that I am going to have to tell mr wealthy that we should just be friends. I really though I might like him and have someone i'm actually interested in for a chnage.

And I also feel like everything would be fine if i didnt get drunk and sleep with him. When i get drunk i cant remember much the next day, and i could have been talking any kind of shit and thats really not very attractive is it?

the thing is if I didnt like him, I probably wouldnt have got drunk and acted like a complete fool. so now i feel like its all my fault.

sorry if i sound pathatic, I just needed to get it off my chest.

snapespeare · 08/10/2012 20:56

moving do not beat yourself up - your reaction at the moment is due to him going a bit quiet. better that you found that out now. we all have expectations when we meet someone and when they don't live up to expectations, of course it's hard/ Sad

snapespeare · 08/10/2012 20:57

and on a lighter note... productive old me....

my kind of love is an ugly love, but it's real and it lasts a long long time

Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one." (this is my favourite!)

[[http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h347/Snapespeare/green_zps890f7f27.jpg so I'm turning on the stereo and I'm lining up the names on the mixes I made before you and I'm turning into fairytales
with glitter and some glue everything we ever planned to ever do]](need to go over the words, a bit swimmy looking')

[[http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h347/Snapespeare/violin_zpsf7375940.jpg And I'll dance with you in Vienna I'll be wearing a river's disguise
The hyacinth wild on my shoulder, My mouth on the dew of your thighs
And I'll bury my soul in a scrapbook, With the photographs there, and the moss
And I'll yield to the flood of your beauty My cheap violin and my cross]]

watchoutforthatsnail · 08/10/2012 21:06

they are lovely.... :) well done productive you!

moving - its hard, i wouldnt blame yourself and a few drinks. Its shit when someone who was interested goes quiet, it hurts :(

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