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over reacting?

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dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 18:11

so for the last few months my rather antisocial hubby has started going out with a group of mates, im really happy about this as i think friendships outside the marraige are really important and healthy.
his best mate is a girl who is into the stuff he likes, wrestling, computer games ect. he goes out to watch films with her a lot and they socialise with others regualy, i have no issue with this, my best mate is a bloke (although he is gay) she has even kipped on our sofa when they went out so she didnt have to drive home. i have had no suspicions that anything other than friendship has occurred.
she is in a bad relationship, talks about it to him all the time, and seems to say lots of leading things like "my bf doesnt like my breasts, what do you think?" and that suggests to me she may be having thoughts towards him in a romantic way... i have told him that platonic friendships are great but its important not to give the wrong idea...
he assured me she didnt have thoughts like that.
i have become aware that his workmates have been gossiping about them, and that makes me uncomfortable, he assuered me it was one comment from someone really stupid and to take no notice.
well today he left his facebook open and thier messages were there, hundreds of messages, really really flirty.
he calls her sugar tits, says he needs to clear his mind of dirty thoughts of her, many messages of sexual teasing, nothing hardcore, all wink winky, things like, i'll let you dominate me, i'll lie there and take it, he replies i am dripping with antisipation (this is in reference to being beaten in the computer game, but its suggestive and sexual.)
he says, if we carry on going to see films together, people will be even more suspicious, more than normal" which means lots of people at thier work are already suss...
i text him and said, u left your fb open, and i read your msgs, sorry for invading your privacy but i am glad i did,
the level of flirting is unacceptable, and really dismissive of your wife. i feel humiliated after all the bending over backwards i did to accommadate your new mates.
i want this flirting to stop, i am not asking you to end your friendship, or cancel saturday (she is kipping on the sofa again) or to cancel the wrestling (they are going with 2 others to wales to watch the wrestling, him and her are sharing a twin room) i just want you to know the boundries and not overstep them.

he phoned and said nothing was going on, i said it doesnt matter if his penis stayed in his pants, the fact he has been texting her this means he has at least had an emotional or sextual affair. he said nothing had happened, and he was sorry for upsetting me, (sounding irritated now) i said i didnt need him to be sorry for upsetting me, that meant nothing to me, he needs to be sorry for doing it. he doesnt talk to me like that, so he needs to talk like that to someone else.
i said, if you want out of our marraige, tell me, i want to know, dont string me along, and drag it out, if you want out, just go. i wont stop you.
he said he loved being married to me and he loves our children, i said well that wouldnt change would it?
then i said i had to go and get kids ready for bed, and hung up.
was i overreacting?

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 07/09/2012 18:10

do we think he is going to cancel it of his own volition ?

going off the first words out of his mouth in the morning "can my pretendy-girlfriend still sleep on our sofa?" despite everything said the night before I very much doubt it

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 18:11

i very much doubt it too.

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dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 18:12

he just called from work and asked if i wanted to speak to her as she is so sorry... er yeah... i'll pass thanks.

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Xales · 07/09/2012 18:14

So he is still discussing all this with her Sad

Even after your outburst he goes to work and talks to her all about it rather than thinking I had better back off a bit here so I don't upset Dancing.

He really just doesn't fucking get it does he??

CaliforniaLeaving · 07/09/2012 18:15

Well done Dancing, your are strong and have taken control of your life.
Brilliant, scary, but really well done.

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 18:15

the man i married is in there somewhere, and i know i love him.
but i feel utter revulsion and derision when i think about him. not only was he really fucking disgusting saying such sick inducing things to sugar tits (i mean sugar tits, what is this a bloody 80's porno?!) but his blubbering was the ultimate turn off. bleaugh.
he just seems suddenly so pathetic and grotty.

its gonna be a while before i get over this impression of him.

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MadameOvary · 07/09/2012 18:24

You may love him but this is the sort of person he has shown himself to be. He is the one who is going to have to work very, very hard to rebuild the trust.
This is not an aberration or a one-off. Imagine all the attitudes and values that go towards thinking this sort of behaviour is acceptable? And the complete lack of disrespect in even imagining that you would just merrily go along with it?

The fact that he is not on his knees in shame and immediately cutting contact with OW is a huge red flag as regards how much you can trust him. He is upset at your reaction, not his behaviour. Until that changes, until he proves with consistent actions that he can be a good man and a worthy partner, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could kick him.

anairofhope · 07/09/2012 18:29

I would tell husband to pass a message along that i never want to talk to her again. She is not to come anywhere near me, the kids or my home. That there is nothing from her that i want and so have no need to talk to her ever again.

If she does i will call her partner and explain why and see if he can get it thru to her.

AnyFucker · 07/09/2012 18:33

blubbering is so unsavoury and repellant isn't it

the stupid fuck doesn't even know how much he must be killing your respect for him, with every idiotic move he makes

Midwife99 · 07/09/2012 18:34

Still discussing it with her? Wants to put her on the phone to say sorry so it seems like sugar tits & Mr So Turned On weren't doing anything wrong? Bollocks they weren't! Try again mate! You OP are amazing! Well done!!

MigratingCoconuts · 07/09/2012 18:35

Just read all of this...awesome arse kicking!! Grin

But why is he still talking with her??

Midwife99 · 07/09/2012 18:35

Touché anairofhope!!

AnyFucker · 07/09/2012 18:37

you are still being discussed by them, OP

your reaction is being dissected and pored over by these two sexually-incontinent fuckwits

they are comparing notes on how to get you to shut the fuck up, so they can still go on their their dirty weekend away

you, if you value yourself, will make it clear it isn't up for negotiation and if the issue is raised again, you will consider it a deal breaker

don't communicate with her, at all

she is not actually the problem....your husband is the problem

TigerStripe · 07/09/2012 18:44

"He is upset at your reaction, not his behaviour."

This

Dancing, I am so sorry you are going through this. But how fucking amazing are you?! I cannot believe they (and they are a 'they') have the audacity to talk about this and think that a good solution would be for Sugar Tits to have a chat about it all and placate you. Do they not get it?

Btw, in answer to my first question, you are VERY fucking amazing.

LydiasMiletus · 07/09/2012 18:46

OP I have been following this since I was sat with ds at 5.30am.
I am so sorry this has happened. I am so impressed with how you dealt with it.
But no I am disgusted in both your dh and her. So after all that's happened he is sat at work discussing this with her?
she wants to apologise so they can go to Wales. Both of the are disgusting.
I completely understand you wanting to sort it. But I am not sure you can unless he chooses to end the friendship.

If i were you i would forward the messages to her dp. I am not saying its the best decision, but i would. He has a right to know, no matter how horrible he may be. I bet if her dp found out she would drop your dh in an instant.

SuperB0F · 07/09/2012 18:50

I've only just read this, and I am IN AWE of your kick-ass spirit. Bloody good for you.

Midwife99 · 07/09/2012 18:51

Tell him if he talks to her again he's out!!

MadameOvary · 07/09/2012 18:55

Tbh, if OP did tell OW's DP about the messages her H would probably blame her for the fallout Hmm (a la charming fucker on the recent vomit thread)

BerylStreep · 07/09/2012 18:59

Why is she paying for the weekend away for his birthday? Is this a normal thing for friends to do? If so, I have the wrong friends! What's wrong with a bottle of cava?

Out of interest, can I ask what field of work your DH and sugar tits are in?

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 19:12

they work in a cinema.

thanks everyone, reading the replies with a big grin on my face, its been appalling the last 24 hours and i cant belive that in the midst of it all i feel a new shiny feeling of self respect and just a wee bit of awesomness.

i think its the "not getting it" that is making me so incredulous. as i said to him earlier, what kind of moron is he? (and my finest moment in my opinion)

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marriednotdead · 07/09/2012 19:16

I've just read this thread for the first time.

Sugar tits?! Oh fucking really.

Am cheering you on with everyone else here. You are bloody amazing and don't you forget it!

clam · 07/09/2012 19:28

Of course, if she did come and kip on the sofa, you could make sure you have loud and very satisfying sex in the room above. You know, just to dispel any idea he's given her that the sex at home is non-existent.

AnyFucker · 07/09/2012 19:29

what kind of a moron is he

loving it Smile

well, if he wants to stay your moron, he's better cop on pretty damn quick, hadn't he ?

Offred · 07/09/2012 19:36

Another who thinks you are great! Fucking "sugartits" Shock

And he works in a cinema? Is he 12? Sounds a real catch with his wrestling and video games and all!!!

gimmecakeandcandy · 07/09/2012 19:38

You officially have balls my lovely! Good for you! Are you going to tell him to terminate the friendship? I am aghast that he is still Gallic about her all the time?! It seems the only thing he cares about are her feelings?!

Tbh, you sound far too awesome for him, far far too good for him. You deserve more honey.