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over reacting?

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dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 18:11

so for the last few months my rather antisocial hubby has started going out with a group of mates, im really happy about this as i think friendships outside the marraige are really important and healthy.
his best mate is a girl who is into the stuff he likes, wrestling, computer games ect. he goes out to watch films with her a lot and they socialise with others regualy, i have no issue with this, my best mate is a bloke (although he is gay) she has even kipped on our sofa when they went out so she didnt have to drive home. i have had no suspicions that anything other than friendship has occurred.
she is in a bad relationship, talks about it to him all the time, and seems to say lots of leading things like "my bf doesnt like my breasts, what do you think?" and that suggests to me she may be having thoughts towards him in a romantic way... i have told him that platonic friendships are great but its important not to give the wrong idea...
he assured me she didnt have thoughts like that.
i have become aware that his workmates have been gossiping about them, and that makes me uncomfortable, he assuered me it was one comment from someone really stupid and to take no notice.
well today he left his facebook open and thier messages were there, hundreds of messages, really really flirty.
he calls her sugar tits, says he needs to clear his mind of dirty thoughts of her, many messages of sexual teasing, nothing hardcore, all wink winky, things like, i'll let you dominate me, i'll lie there and take it, he replies i am dripping with antisipation (this is in reference to being beaten in the computer game, but its suggestive and sexual.)
he says, if we carry on going to see films together, people will be even more suspicious, more than normal" which means lots of people at thier work are already suss...
i text him and said, u left your fb open, and i read your msgs, sorry for invading your privacy but i am glad i did,
the level of flirting is unacceptable, and really dismissive of your wife. i feel humiliated after all the bending over backwards i did to accommadate your new mates.
i want this flirting to stop, i am not asking you to end your friendship, or cancel saturday (she is kipping on the sofa again) or to cancel the wrestling (they are going with 2 others to wales to watch the wrestling, him and her are sharing a twin room) i just want you to know the boundries and not overstep them.

he phoned and said nothing was going on, i said it doesnt matter if his penis stayed in his pants, the fact he has been texting her this means he has at least had an emotional or sextual affair. he said nothing had happened, and he was sorry for upsetting me, (sounding irritated now) i said i didnt need him to be sorry for upsetting me, that meant nothing to me, he needs to be sorry for doing it. he doesnt talk to me like that, so he needs to talk like that to someone else.
i said, if you want out of our marraige, tell me, i want to know, dont string me along, and drag it out, if you want out, just go. i wont stop you.
he said he loved being married to me and he loves our children, i said well that wouldnt change would it?
then i said i had to go and get kids ready for bed, and hung up.
was i overreacting?

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Alurkatsoftplay · 07/09/2012 16:20

Yeah, to echo nje, watch that he doesn't get in contact on the sly :(

KatieScarlett2833 · 07/09/2012 16:21

Well done OP.

That's it, just bloody well done.

Thanks

and

Wine
dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 16:27

the vrying really pisses me off tbh. it is pathetic. he wants my sympathy?
or that the tears will stop me being so mean to him?
i have told him i will be checking on him and hers communcication for a while. i want his fb password.
but if they want to carry on (which i doubt, he wouldnt actually want to leave i dont think) they will obviously find a way.
the work together, so see each other everyday.

ooh one thing i did say, is i wonder what her boyfriend would say about the messages? would he get the joke? find it oh so funny?
maybe we should let him in on the fun shall we?

he looked quite panicked about this suggestion lol.

i am feeling quite good right now actually. (nothing to do with the piniot grigio...) fucker. he wont walk over me.

i have just put a bid in on a 3bed house in our perfect area. been on council list for 5.5 years now, and we are finally queue position one. not holding ones breath, but if we get it, a stable home for the kids forever (we private rent) i will be able to divorce him in a heartbeat if this behaviour carries on.

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dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 16:28

*crying not vrying... blurry wine...

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OliveandJim · 07/09/2012 16:38

Love you Dancing, I'm at work otherwise I'd be cheering and clapping...you tell those MNs... and I agree with you the answer always seems to be Leave th eBastards, seems like noone is working on saving a marriage this day and age anymore, certainly not on MNs anyway.

Heavensmells · 07/09/2012 16:43

OP I think that you have handled the situation brilliantly. Glad that you are not taking any shit off him.

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 16:43

thanks Grin i wonder if i would have been quite so forthright today, if it wasnt for my little nest of vipers conversation with the ladies on here. Wink

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dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 16:44

i do want to save my marraige. and if it can be saved it will.
but only if he works at it. and not at the cost of my sanity or self respect.

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KatieScarlett2833 · 07/09/2012 16:49

Hehehe

One day you will be a viper too, you are well on your way.

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 16:50

awww thanks.
(really quite chuffed)

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MadameOvary · 07/09/2012 16:54

Dancing - you will be dancing after getting shot of the useless cheating twat.
Cannot believe the brass neck of him. If this were a soap his behaviour couldn't be any more jaw-droppingly awful.

When you chuck him out and all his clothes and possessions into the street please tell us and put it on Youtube

MadameOvary · 07/09/2012 16:57

Dancing - please think back to all the times he has taken the piss. There will be plenty. No-one is this bad without it showing in other ways. You will find that as you get clarity on the situation you see more and more what he is really like.

So best give away your sharp objects for now Wink

BerylStreep · 07/09/2012 16:59

Dancing, well done for standing up to him. His behaviour is dreadful, and I wouldn't stand for it. My DH has loads of female friends from uni, and he would never dream of speaking to any of them like that.

I wonder why your DH deleted the messages? That doesn't sound good. Glad you kept a copy - he will, no doubt, try to minimise this. Keep another copy elsewhere, just in case something happens to the one you have.

The cow wouldn't be stepping over my doorstep ever again. As for the weekend away - well it wouldn't be happening. Tough if there is money lost on the tickets and hotel.

It makes me so cross to hear of people who are on ads, and get fed the crazy line by their Hs. I am convinced that there wouldn't be the need for ads in a lot of cases if it wasn't for the Hs' behaviour in the first place.

BerylStreep · 07/09/2012 17:08

Oh, and not all of us say 'leave the bastard' (not all of the time anyway) Grin. I know you felt you were given a hard time at the start of the thread, but you will be supported no matter how you want to deal with things.

I'm so glad you have said what really, really needed to be said. You would have driven yourself demented trying to pretend to be cool about the whole thing. Sometimes you need to show your teeth.

Inertia · 07/09/2012 17:09

Well done Dancing. Whatever happens from here, you have made it absolutely clear that you refuse to be treated like this and you have started to make contingency plans.

I think you're right to remain suspicious - if they work together it'd be easy for them to carry on and just get better at hiding it . The banter line is bollocks and he knows it - that's why he panicked at the thought of her boyfriend finding out. And the tears seem to be all for show, especially as the first thing he did was to ask if she could still stay over. I think it's tears for himself, not genuine contrition at having destroyed the trust in your relationship.

You seem to suggest in your posts that you regard yourself as a pushover. I think this is why your H was hoping to get away with it - but you are actually pretty strong and feisty, and your manner with your husband will have shocked him - he was probably hoping you'd be crying and pleading, and he doesn't know how to respond to this.

MerlotforOne · 07/09/2012 17:09

Just read this thread...

Good for you, dancing! My mum was in your position 15 years ago, as in my dad had an EA with a woman who we all knew, who seriously pursued him. Mum similarly has childhood issues that make her a 'pleaser' and initially refused to see how bad his behaviour was (even when 18 year old me pointed it out to her!), but when she finally got it, she said much the same as you have.
It turns out he seriously thought he could have both OW and his marriage! Mum standing up to him made him realise what he would be losing. They're still married and much happier. It took a long time to rebuild the trust, but she no longer views him through Rose tinted specs and he stopped treating her like a doormat, so their relationship is much healthier. Just wanted you to know that these things do sometimes end happily! Good luck and keep on being strong, he'll respect you much more that way! Wine

izzyizin · 07/09/2012 17:15

O honey, I LOVE it... I have been ROFL for the past 5 minutes Grin

You are MAGNIFICENT and now you've started, don't let up until he's in no doubt whatsoever that you won't tolerate him crossing boundaries that any reasonable man or woman would expect their dps/dhs to observe.

Ol' sugar tits can go fuck herself find another sofa to seduce married men kip on and if he starts with the 'you're crazy' talk again, tell him the copies of those texts you've made are more than sufficient ground for you to divorce him for adultery and name her as co-respondent - and then ask him who's the crazy one now?

Hyperballad · 07/09/2012 17:21

Well done Dancing! You have done brilliant, stick to your guns, make sure he works bloody hard to get you back, and if he doesn't he can do one! X

anairofhope · 07/09/2012 17:24

Waving pompoms for Dancing. You did great. You rock :)

maandpa · 07/09/2012 17:36

I think you are under reacting massively as well.

If they are sharing a room something will be happening physically.

Do NOT let her stay on the sofa. And the friendship HAS to end (even if he has to go cold turkey) because it is massively inappropriate to your relationship, and massively inappropriate at his work too.

You really need to tell him to stop this, he needs to concentrate on the relationship with you. End all contact with her. And learn about boundaries and respecting them.

So sorry you are going through this. Its because you are so trusting of him. It probably happened by degrees, and is way out of control now.

Get Shirley Glasses book about affairs. Its largely about affairs that start out as work friendships. She explains all about how boundaries get blurred, and how this flirting becomes addictive, and builds into a full blown emotional and then physical affair. Which is why they have organized this night way, with you beingthe trusting partner at home.

The book also explains how to recover from what you are going through.

It happened to me 2 odd years ago. Your relationship can recover. But after you have read the book he will need to too.

PM me if you need any further advice. Get angry. What he and this woman have been doing is not good. It has been exciting for them. And you have been kept in the dark - for a reason.

xxx

AnyFucker · 07/09/2012 17:42

olive andjim I don't think you have read OP's updates properly have you ? Smile

dancing I am so pleased to see you find your cojones

what a big baby, snivelling and crying when he realised you weren't letting him off the hook...not sure I could respect any person (never mind my husband) if they did that

what is happening about the weekend in Wales, love ? That is a big issue, IMO. Tell him to cancel it...that will test his commitment and whether he truly is sorry. Any whining about losing the money for the tickets should be met with a completely deadpan face....he can sell them over the internet easily enough.

in your position, I would be insisting that any communication with her, other than at work and to do with work, is over and done with

and I would consider any behind-your-back contact to be a dealbreaker after he has agreed to that

he has been taking the piss, and now it stops

AnyFucker · 07/09/2012 17:44

was there a lot of snot, btw ?

how distasteful Smile

Xales · 07/09/2012 17:47

I am still gob smacked that there is money for tickets to go to wrestling, money to pay for the petrol there and back to Wales (depending on your distance of course, money for him to spend the night in a hotel room with another woman but not money for you to get help to sort yourself out.

I think a look at his priorities is in order.

A healthy you is better for you, your family and your relationship.

maandpa · 07/09/2012 17:50

Yes he cancels Wales, without moaning to you about having to cancel it. He just cancels it.

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 07/09/2012 18:09

yeah wales so aint happening, as i told him i will just take that as he is going to shag her. there will be no, oh they wont share a room, so it will be fine, i dont believe you, and i will assume that thats happened. therefore it shall be over really wont it?
he doesnt want this, so will not be going.

its not our money we have to worry about actually.

she (and his other male best mate, but i wonder if thats true now) is paying.
paying for everything, train. hotel. wrestling tickets. its for his birthday in november.
she has already paid. shame.

i think he is definitely going to still try to go. thinking i will relax my stance in a few weeks or so... er no.

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