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over reacting?

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dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 18:11

so for the last few months my rather antisocial hubby has started going out with a group of mates, im really happy about this as i think friendships outside the marraige are really important and healthy.
his best mate is a girl who is into the stuff he likes, wrestling, computer games ect. he goes out to watch films with her a lot and they socialise with others regualy, i have no issue with this, my best mate is a bloke (although he is gay) she has even kipped on our sofa when they went out so she didnt have to drive home. i have had no suspicions that anything other than friendship has occurred.
she is in a bad relationship, talks about it to him all the time, and seems to say lots of leading things like "my bf doesnt like my breasts, what do you think?" and that suggests to me she may be having thoughts towards him in a romantic way... i have told him that platonic friendships are great but its important not to give the wrong idea...
he assured me she didnt have thoughts like that.
i have become aware that his workmates have been gossiping about them, and that makes me uncomfortable, he assuered me it was one comment from someone really stupid and to take no notice.
well today he left his facebook open and thier messages were there, hundreds of messages, really really flirty.
he calls her sugar tits, says he needs to clear his mind of dirty thoughts of her, many messages of sexual teasing, nothing hardcore, all wink winky, things like, i'll let you dominate me, i'll lie there and take it, he replies i am dripping with antisipation (this is in reference to being beaten in the computer game, but its suggestive and sexual.)
he says, if we carry on going to see films together, people will be even more suspicious, more than normal" which means lots of people at thier work are already suss...
i text him and said, u left your fb open, and i read your msgs, sorry for invading your privacy but i am glad i did,
the level of flirting is unacceptable, and really dismissive of your wife. i feel humiliated after all the bending over backwards i did to accommadate your new mates.
i want this flirting to stop, i am not asking you to end your friendship, or cancel saturday (she is kipping on the sofa again) or to cancel the wrestling (they are going with 2 others to wales to watch the wrestling, him and her are sharing a twin room) i just want you to know the boundries and not overstep them.

he phoned and said nothing was going on, i said it doesnt matter if his penis stayed in his pants, the fact he has been texting her this means he has at least had an emotional or sextual affair. he said nothing had happened, and he was sorry for upsetting me, (sounding irritated now) i said i didnt need him to be sorry for upsetting me, that meant nothing to me, he needs to be sorry for doing it. he doesnt talk to me like that, so he needs to talk like that to someone else.
i said, if you want out of our marraige, tell me, i want to know, dont string me along, and drag it out, if you want out, just go. i wont stop you.
he said he loved being married to me and he loves our children, i said well that wouldnt change would it?
then i said i had to go and get kids ready for bed, and hung up.
was i overreacting?

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2girls2dogs · 06/09/2012 18:50

You are on Antidepressants and the crazy line comes out alot?? Are you saying he tells you you are crazy????? Has an inappropriate friendship with another woman?? How many more red flags do you need before you realise that he has zero respect for you? Why are you on ADs, if you don't mind me asking?

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 18:51

anyfucker, no i think you'll find its both of you doing the kicking. but cheers ladies, i feel soooo much better knowing im so foolish, and dense, and thick and all... beauty. fab. cheers.

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AnyFucker · 06/09/2012 18:53

OP, it's both of them that are kicking you when you are down

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 18:55

i am anti d's because i had a breakdown in dec last year after having councelling for my childhood. i had two sessions and was told that was my quouta on the nhs and that i could go private (couldnt afford that) or be reffered to a phychologist but would take six months.
i found it raked up all my hidden feelings about my childhood and i had no way of dealing with it, and was effectively dumped my the nhs. so i crumbled in dec, and was on citalapram by jan. been on them since...

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dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 18:56

*by the nhs

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joblot · 06/09/2012 18:57

A bit mean on you op but I think your h's probable infidelity is jumping out at all of us. Can you talk to anyone in real life? Sounds like you're having a shitty time

AnyFucker · 06/09/2012 18:58

don't hide the thread, you will get support if you lower your defenses a bit

nobody has said "leave the bastard"

we are all saying you really should not be tolerating what has already happened, and you need to draw a very clear line under it right now

which does not involve still indulging their sexually-incontinent messages and hotel-room sharing

my advice would be to drop the "cool wife" act, and give him an ultimatum

drop his sex-text buddy (completely) or you walk, these sort of shenanigans have no place in a so-called exclusive relationship, no matter how much your intimacy with him has suffered due to you giving birth to his kids

you are making excuses for him, and that is what people are trying to make you understand

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 18:58

yeah i will be, my best mate is on red cross duty tonight, so i cant talk to him till the morning, but i will, im lucky, i do have a good support network if things go tits up

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bumhead · 06/09/2012 18:59

Op this isn't your fault so please don't take this on your shoulders.
You've had a rough ride with PND and labour/birth etc. That does not excuse his behaviour though. Like you said if he wanted to leave you wouldn't stand in his way.
You need to have a good sit down and have this out with him tonight.
I know you're trying to be reasonable with him but he really has to chill things right out with this predatory bitch.
You have to insist on that because if you want your marriage to work, she can't be a factor in his life any more. It's too close for comfort.
Be strong.

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 19:00

i'm sorry. i just felt attacked.
when feeling stronger i will re read and absorb.
maybe lay off the "dense" "foolish" stuff though huh? its not doing much for my already crippled self esteem

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AnyFucker · 06/09/2012 19:01

I am sorry you had such a rough time, but he isn't supporting you, is he ?

he is heaping more shit on your head

it's not acceptable

a partner should make you feel safe.... not like you don't know what he will do next

(and we can all see exactly what he is going to do next)

AnyFucker · 06/09/2012 19:04

cross posted

don't be sorry, listen to us, understand why you had such a strong reaction to your OP

he is horrible OP

not just the messages, the fact that he plays the "crazy" card, tries to make things your fault, gaslights you and you still indulge him

no more

Hullygully · 06/09/2012 19:04

kill him

Houseofplain · 06/09/2012 19:06

Op. He is probably at the root cause of your depression. He is being so cruel.

Knobbers · 06/09/2012 19:06

OP as you said in your first post, this is a new friendship right?

Ask him to end this friendship and see what he does? You have a right to do this by the way, it is totally inappropriate and has already overstepped the boundaries.

I have male friends, known them for years. I would never talk to them like that. I think you have been too relaxed about this 'platonic' friendship.

Oh and like fuck would she be sleeping on my sofa again after finding that!

susiegrapevine · 06/09/2012 19:08

Hey op just wanted to ask did he really say he loves being married to you? Cos if these were his words it sounds like he does not love you anymore as he said he loves your kids, but not that he loves you just being married to you? I may be getting the wrong end of the stick here but if this is the case do you want to be in a loveless marriage well at least its loveless on his part?

JeuxDEnfants · 06/09/2012 19:11

If she fancies him, they cannot remain friends.

Tempernillo · 06/09/2012 19:11

Cogito you are being very harsh.

JeuxDEnfants · 06/09/2012 19:12

Or maybe she's just using him to feel better about herself because of her own bad relationship. Either way. It's not a viable friendship. Tell him she has to go now. You deserve better without a doubt.

doinmummy · 06/09/2012 19:13

Agree that this 'friendship' must end immediately. Although from what has been written on Facebook, I expect he will continue to see Mattress Maud behind your back.

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 19:14

hully, i've thought this for a very long time, but its time to say it...
i think i love you.

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Xales · 06/09/2012 19:14

My DP would be free to go off on this booked weekend and share a room with her if he wanted.

If he did so right now I would consider our relationship over and I would be leaving him which I would be free to do.

As for her kipping on my sofa. Over my fecking dead body. Vile woman has been dripping sexual hints all over your H (what do you think of my boobs etc) and looking me in the face at the same time.

izzyizin · 06/09/2012 19:16

There's only one possible context to place on what you've read, honey, and that is he's either been having it off with her or he's about to get his leg over.

I'm not suggest you 'leave the bastard' but I am suggesting that you tell him to leave so that you can have time and space to reflect on whether he's as essential to your life as you currently seem to believe.

dancingwiththedevilonmyback · 06/09/2012 19:16

yeah, i can see i have been far to placid, so not to appear crazy, and overpossesive, but you are right, its off, and i knew it was off, otherwise i wouldnt have read the messages would i?
we are going to have a serious talk later. if he cant end the friendship, he has to end our marraige.
i dont want to be in a loveless relationship, and i dont want him to be stuck in one either. i love him, i do, and i feel sad about the state of things, but it cant stay like this can it?

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nitrox · 06/09/2012 19:16

Wow! OP is getting a flaming on here! Settle down ladies..

He has overstepped the mark by a mile in my opinion, but I don't think people need to be so harsh towards her. Yes, she needs to 'see the light' but I'm suprised by some of the comments here, especially as she only found out about all of this 3 hrs ago and is in a bit of shock.

My best friend is a bloke, married, kids etc.. We meet for lunch every 2-3 weeks, and chat on webcam daily as we both work from home and do the same job. I am very cautious not to upset his wife, also a friend to me, and I wouldn't do even 10% of the things they are doing together and it's frankly disrespectful and is just too far.

He needs to cut contact with her. The tits comment was just fishing for a compliment and was so obviously flirting, sounds like he likes it though.

Not sure why you are taking 100% blame for PND and the lack of a sex drive either? Does he not have any part to play in all of that..?

Seems like he's getting his attention elsewhere and it won't be long before it progresses.