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I'm quite happy with a jar of Branstons

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LouP19 · 22/08/2012 09:53

Morning all.

Talking of Toast Toppers, he took 2 tins of that as well. Yes, really.

My pantry is now full of Heinz cheese ravioli and Tesco sausage and beans.

Smile
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Jux · 24/08/2012 02:54

Hi Lou, what a lot has happened while I was away! Sandwich spread? There are clearly no depths to which he will not sink!

Watch that cat food with a wary eye, though. Check at some point whether he can claim the cats are his as he's buying their food (probably can't, but no harm making sure, he's definitely chutney enough to give it a go). Is there anything about accepting presents from twunts? I'm sure someone with a legal head could give you quick answer here, anyway.

I, too, think the missive from pa-in-law is probably an awkward attempt at keeping in touch and being supportive, without pushing too much. The vile git is their son and they are quite possibly worried about how you feel about them contacting you at all. They may have no idea whether you hate them for having such a horrible son (they did bring him up), may feel terribly guilty about what he's done, and just want to keep the channels of communication open without antagonizing you further or making everything worse for you. A fairly non-committal reply would be fine atm, until you decide what you want to do.

girlywhirly · 24/08/2012 08:34

I think that having first been devastated at what their son has done and being nice to Lou, then being unhelpful and seemingly supporting their son, they have realised that there is a real chance of never playing any part in the grandchild's life. I think they know deep down that they could have been better IL's to Lou in the past, and probably have their doubts about Chunt's abilities as a parent as well as a husband.

Also, they themselves will be gossiped about among family and friends just by being Chunt's parents. I think the clumsy text was an acknowledgment of the shitty situation he has placed them in, and hoping for the best.

Inertia · 24/08/2012 09:06

It's hard to tell from FILs message what he means - is it likely to be an attempt at control, or a clumsy way of offering support ? Either way, it's tactless when he knows you are considering a termination Lou. Unless there's any chance your H could have put him up to it as a double bluff - if everyone talks about wanting to be involved with the baby then Lou will terminate as 'revenge' - or is that too low for even the Chutneygoblin to stoop?

Beckamaw · 24/08/2012 09:06

Lou,
My XH is a Walkers Crisp twunt. During our lengthy and largely pointless marriage he would consume outrageous quantities. I'm unsure how he was not obese.
One New Year we had a party and he disappeared. I found him in the cellar with the lights off, cross legged on the floor. He had consumed a 12 pack! He stated that he didn't want to share, so went down in the dark for some supper. Angry

Food twunts are much the same. He was unfaithful, the affair started during my second pregnancy. At this point he was trying to rent a house near work and only wanted to come home at weekends. As things stood, I was parenting single handedly - he was never interested in the practicalities of parenting.

When I left, life was so much easier without the man child. I cannot regret the marriage because it gave me my beautiful daughters. Another bonus is that I do not take my wonderful DP for granted because I know how great he is.

I almost burst into tears when he suggested coming with me and the kids on a school uniform shop! He said 'We are a family and that's what families do'.
XH had NEVER been shopping with me and kids because it was 'boring'.

What I am trying to say is that there will be a beautiful silver lining to this current black sky. You know now what you DON'T want. You are a brilliant, intelligent and humorous lady. I am sensing a fabulous happy ending!

I wish I could fast forward your life 2 years and show you where you will be. And where he will be too. Smile

thewashfairy · 24/08/2012 09:35

southfacing thank you SO much for putting up that link. I am also a child of a narc and have unfortunately also some amongst my ILS. Very,very interesting read. Sorry to derail thread.I spend my life worrying that I'm one and am always very conscious about my every emotional response (making sure it's 'normal')

LouP19 · 24/08/2012 09:45

Thanks everyone, I appreciate there could be 2 interpretations of the text. But have decided this morning not to worry about it or engage at the moment. Need to distance myself a bit from them whilst I take my time to think things over.

Still keep waking at about 4 in the morning and can't get back to sleep. Sad Hits me worse at that time.

Should've received a draft letter from the sols this morning, but nothing yet. Bit anxious about that, will chase them at lunchtime. I would love him to get it on Saturday as, yes, with the BH weekend he's got a few days to sweat about it!

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AgathaFusty · 24/08/2012 09:58

I agree that distancing yourself from your ILs at the moment is probably the best plan, although I also think that the text reads ok (only you know what they're like though).

I hope your weekend is peaceful, but with some BBQ fun Smile

I'll bet his wekend will be hellish Grin

skyebluesapphire · 24/08/2012 10:13

My STBXH got his letter saying that I was divorcing him for unreasonable behaviour the day before his birthday . Happy Birthday! Made me smile. Hurt him apparently....

Happylander · 24/08/2012 10:16

I suppose you could take the text in a positive light but surely if they were at all interested in how you are and how their Grandchild (although I know decision has not been made yet) is they would have got their arses round to you and to see what they could help you with not just send a bloody text.

MY Ex parents had split. His toxic mother never asked me how I was and nor did any of his family not once and still haven't 10 months on. His dad however, left work and came straight to me driving 2 hours to get here to make sure I was okay and if there was anything they could do when I let them know Ex had phoned to say he was never coming back. They also came down about every 3-4 weeks to take me and DS out for lunch and spend time with us. Now that is caring grandparents and IL's they do this despite having their own teenage daughter and 3 foster kids 7 and under.

I would never and could never just abandon any future DIL or SIL (depending on his preference) if DS had walked out in the way your Ex has done. Yes I would be there for my DS but he would get a bloody bollocking and I would make sure his Ex was okay. Anything else is despicable particularly in your current situation.

Anniegetyourgun · 24/08/2012 10:19

Excuse me for butting in. I've carefully read all four and a half threads so far, almost a whole month's worth, and I can't believe nobody's yet posted this.

atosilis · 24/08/2012 10:31

Hahahahaha Brilliant!

CrazyChicken · 24/08/2012 10:44

Oh God I'm gonna be singing that all day now

MovingGal · 24/08/2012 11:12

This is a song, a song about Chut-a-ney...........

Yep, its stuck in the ole noggin now.......

EdgeofGlory · 24/08/2012 11:14

Lou

I?ve followed your story from day one (even logging in last week from Greece!). I have been astounded by the way you are handling this turmoil and have the utmost respect for you.

You are so calm and together when it comes to communication with him ? a skill I wish I?d had when I?d discovered my ex-husbands affair.

I wanted to share something with you about my experience. I had a 3yr old and a new-born baby (weeks) when I discovered my husband?s affair ? there had been no warning and to say I was bowled over was an understatement. However, after a rocky 6 weeks I found the strength and filed for divorce, only then did he drop to his knees sobbing and beg me to stop. This is when I?d found my inner strength (girl power?) and the more he begged the more strength I got, I was 28. Over lunch with my brother one day he struck a chord ?the only person that is going to look after you, is yourself?. Whilst on maternity leave I took a career break, applied for a 3yr full time degree and graduated with a 2:1 in Law.

I wanted to share my experience as honestly as I could; it wasn?t easy with two young children, especially a new born. Sleep deprivation, constantly on the go, being pulled in every direction BUT the one overriding factor that got me through it was the amazing support from my parents, which I can clearly see you have. They helped at night and in the day and on holidays and throughout my study ? sometimes only emotional support but either way they ?rock? like yours do.

Fast forward 12yrs ? I have any amazing 15yr old daughter, well balanced, intelligent, popular and a great friend! The new-born (who never slept) is now a loving 12yr old son who is the apple of my eye (but don?t tell anyone!).
It wasn?t easy in the early years but with strong family support and determination it is possible. I am now a 40yr old very proud mum. I have an ex-husband who confided last year what a massive regret he carries, how he used to lie in bed every morning with no reason to get up, who never opened presents on Christmas day with his children and how if he could turn back time he would. Incidentally he did go on to marry the women but it?s clear he regrets his actions and isn?t happy. Sorry to ramble, just wanted to share it with you, try to give you a different perspective.

As a side note ? I got the house and all the equity (guilt is a great thing) and he pays a few hundred pound a month?.probably covers 1-2 weeks shopping!
Have I any regrets? I thank the lord every day that I discovered what a cheat he was and when I heard his sobs when I rang to tell him the decree absolute had come through ? I knew I had made the right decision. Incidentally, I am now remarried and have a 6yr old daughter to add to the brood, there is life beyond, whichever route you take.

Keep up the strong outer skin, keep up the minimal contact, I can assure it will be killing him. You are doing amazingly well???.and I have so much admiration for you.

You rock!

CrazyChicken · 24/08/2012 11:32

such a positive story EdgeofGlory

LouP19 · 24/08/2012 11:58

Had the draft letter from the solicitors,... just making a few amendments.

Basically says 'Back the fk off for 2 months, but continue to pay the bills you f*g bastard'. But in legal speak of course,...... Wink

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LouP19 · 24/08/2012 11:59

Nice story too Edgeofglory thank you for sharing. Smile

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sugarice · 24/08/2012 12:01

Nice one Lou. Grin

NotGeoffVader · 24/08/2012 12:02

Go Lou! Great letter.

Hope the day continues on a very positive note for you :)

ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 24/08/2012 12:09

Excellent Lou! That should set you up for a good day. Where will she send it to though?

LouP19 · 24/08/2012 12:15

It's going to our home address. So it'll get redirected to the hovel he's sharing with the OW.

Nice surprise for the BH weekend,...... Grin

That is of course if I don't get something myself too. I dread going home at the moment - a) because I'm worried he's been to the house and b) I'm worried about any letters I might receive.

So despite the positivity, I do still feel very vulnerable. Sunday is about the only day I feel 'safe' because I know he won't come round and there's no danger of any nasties in the post. Sad

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ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 24/08/2012 12:18

Does it mention pregnancy?

LouP19 · 24/08/2012 12:20

Oh yes. It mentions 2 in the first paragraph!!!

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FrankWippery · 24/08/2012 12:24

What a shame he won't get it in time for the Bank Holiday weekend. At least it will be on the way though, lovely surprise for early next week.

saffronwblue · 24/08/2012 12:24

Lou, you are really motoring along with regaining control of your life!

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