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To feel like my little holiday has already been ruined :(

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TwllBach · 26/07/2012 22:54

Me and DP are supposed to be going away for three nights tomorrow. It's been organised for about a month and a half and I was really excited for it. We are going to see my mum, who I haven't seen in a year, then to a hotel near London and then back up to one nearer home.

When we see my mum, my brother is taking us out for a meal in a smart casual restaurant. We have known this for about a month. DP googled it so knew what it was. He has already spent a while niggling at a low level because it is the opening weekend of the Olympics and we will more than likely get stuck in traffic.

Yesterday he decided that he did not realise it was 'smart casual' and fell in to a bit of a bad temper. We had to go shopping (23 miles away) do he could buy clothes and shoes as he is strictly a buggy jeans and big bulky trainers sort of person. All the time we were shoppig he was bitching about te sort of people that wear 'smart casual' and how he doesn't mix with people who dress like that so buying clothes is a waste of money. He refused to pick the right size do everything he tried on didn't fit an therefore he wouldn't buy it. He wouldn't consider buying black shoes because he didn't want to be boring. He made snarky remarks about how we dont go out as a couple so he doesn't have decent clothes - this was a dig aimed at me as I have previously been very shy but I'm getting much better now.

We are now going to have to stop ina city on an already 6 - 7 hour journey so he can buy clothes because he couldn't pick anything then.

I picked him up from work today and he was swearin and angry because he was stressed. He said that he had so much work to do and it made him even more angry because it's not like it's even worth it as we are onl away Friday to Monday. I said that we didn't have to go as it is obviously causing him a lot f stress and he told me I was being moody.

It's five to eleven and he is angry with me because I have packed mu own small suitcase instead of waiting for him to get down a large one. It is my fault that he can't find his suit trousers and that his shirt isn't clean. I've spent the last two days trying to guess what to wash for him as e kept putting it off. I have a friend coming I stay to look after the animals and have scrubbed the bathroom, which looks beautiful and e had decided that he will cut his hair and shave before we go. This is fine, but e never clears up properly. He had also just put a wash on.

I'm so miserable, I'd rather not go. I'm confused because he told me I have an attitude that is pissing him off, but I don't understand. I wish I hadn't suggested we go away.

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wellwisher · 26/07/2012 23:31

He sounds like an arse. Tell him he can come with a smile on his face or not at all, and go without him if there's any more of this selfish nonsense.

What restaurant are you going to, by the way?

TwllBach · 26/07/2012 23:33

Well, I wish I had mumsnet to tell me this, but it is your choice. You can choose to spend your future pandering to this person's issues, insecurities and rudeness, always beating yourself up.
Or toy can get tough, or quietly determined from now, and see if he changes.
Usually people don't really change though....

This. Over the last year or so I feel like I've grown up a lot and every now and then a similar thought to the above creeps in. I'm not sure though. So often we are happy and everything is fine.

He is both unsociable and insecure. I am shy and have low self esteem, but have learnt to push through both thanks to the job I trained to do. I socialise with my friends and he with his, although occasionally we do with his. I used to find it quite challenging because his friends are about ten years older than me and 'professionals' and I felt very out of depth and I'm sure it showed. I was never rude, just quiet. I'm also not a drinker, a sniff of wine gives me a hangover and I just don't really enjoy it, whereas he is the opposite and he and his friends often find it quite strange.

I'm beginning to think I should have posted in relationships.

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CelticRepublican · 26/07/2012 23:34

Oh Twll that sounds rubbish. Do you think he's lashing out because he's nervous? It sounds from your posts like he's made you feel this way before Sad. I agree he sounds a bit teenagery.

Also, I love your name.

TwllBach · 26/07/2012 23:35

wellwisher it will sound silly now, after all the build up/fuss, but DB says its 'cool' and he is right about these sorts of things! I think it's called 'Sheesh'

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pumpkinsweetie · 26/07/2012 23:35

What an Anti-social manchild, if he doesn't prepare go alone you may have more fun.
I don't believe for a second that a grown man cannot manage to find nothing smart to fit him, what a sorry excuse for him to get out of goingAngry

50shadesofslapntickle · 26/07/2012 23:36

Good lord woman what are you doing with this tool? Have you no self respect?! He is an arse and you are a fool to be with someone who quite clearly treats u like shit! WHY are you with him

You mother is right - poor woman having to see her daughter wasting her life on a twat.

cocolepew · 26/07/2012 23:40

Is he older than you, you say his friends are 10 years older. Might the fact that you are getying more confident upsetting/pissing him off?

I agree that he could gave just worn his work trousers and a shirt.

fluffiphlox · 26/07/2012 23:40

I don't think healthy relationships are about having such daft arguments - I think you both need to grow up. I'm assuming you are both over 21? Perhaps not.

PandaNot · 26/07/2012 23:40

I behave a (little) bit like this when I have to visit my ILs, and it's not because I don't like them. I just find it very stressful visiting in the home of people I don't know very well and it comes out as awkward childish behaviour sometimes.

TwllBach · 26/07/2012 23:40

Diolch yn fawr Celtic Grin

Yikes 50, don't hold back Grin in my defense, he's nt always like this and I often find it hard to tie the sulky, difficult man I'm describing atm to the lovely, affectionate man he is for the majority of the time. That's what I'm finding confusing. I think.

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CelticRepublican · 26/07/2012 23:41

X post, sorry.

Sounds like you have changed and grown a lot ( in a good way) and maybe you have grown apart a bit. Or maybe he's finding it difficult to adjust to your new confidence. Of its like this all the time I would definitely be considering leaving.

50shadesofslapntickle · 26/07/2012 23:41

Yes - post a new thread in relationships and open your eyes to what kind of relationship you are in. How old are you? Don't be here in 5/10 years time telling us the same things. DON'T tell him about posting here either and please lady, OPEN your eyes to what kind of relationship you are in

You deserve better - get OUT

wellwisher · 26/07/2012 23:43

If it's this one it looks like loads of fun!

I do think you should seriously consider going without your DP though. Even if he is acting like this because he's intimidated (which would be odd for someone who's older than you and hangs out with "professional" type people), why would you want to be with someone who can't handle going to a smart casual restaurant? Put it this way: you would not have this problem with James Bond.

50shadesofslapntickle · 26/07/2012 23:44

Yep - abusive people are good at being nice one minute and teats the next. That's how they keep a hold over you. It's your life

I can almost guarantee that I you marry this man you won't have a happy ever after.

lilolilmanchester · 26/07/2012 23:47

Well none of us know TwllBach's DP, so jumping to the "knob", "tool" conclusion might be overlooking that he might suffering from stress or anxiety or depression.

TwllBach, you know him, do you think there is a chance he is unwell or that this is just one thing too many for him at the moment? (You don't have to answer that on here, just think about it as a possibility).

Would you be able to go on your own?

TwllBach · 26/07/2012 23:49

Actually, I take the 'in my defense...' bit back. I know it's silly. I know he's being childish and I'm probably being a bit pathetic. If my friend was telling me I would say the same as everyone here, so why is it difficult to apply it to my own relationship?

He's not much older than me - he's 27 and I'm 24 - his friends are older than both of us.

I do think the fact that I have a few more opinions since joining MN had rattled him because he liked to be the one doing the informing. There have been a couple of times when we have had a discussion about something in the news, for example, and I have had a fair bit to say and I can see him thinking "hmmm this is new." I don't know if he thinks it's a good thing or not though.

I'm also wondering if he might feel a bit threatened? He is small town bin and bred whereas my parents live in Essex, which is my home town. I think he feels a bit like a big fish in a small pond here where we live (his home town) and finds visiting Essex stressful. That and I have bagged myself a job in my Chosen Profession starting in September and will be earning a fair bit more than him

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ImperialBlether · 26/07/2012 23:49

I don't like him! I agree with your mum in that I don't think he's right for you.

I'm so glad you're not married to him.

Make the most of your single days to think about the sort of man you'd like to be with. Maybe one who wanted to make you happy in simple ways? Who wasn't a moody bastard? Who didn't make you feel bad about yourself?

TwllBach · 26/07/2012 23:54

Do you think if I just copied and pasted this to a relationship thread it would be ok? I'm on my phone and don't want to type it all out again.

I dot think he is necessarily making me feel this way on purpose. I know he has very low self esteem but to me it comes out in negative ways. I don't know yet if I want to leave him, I love him very much and I truly
Believe he loves me, but like I said - if it was my friend then I would probably be telling her something different!

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Alibabaandthe40nappies · 26/07/2012 23:55

I suspect that a lot of the tantrum is because he isn't happy about you becoming more confident, and this weekend presents an opportunity for him to piss on your bonfire a bit.

Is he pleased for you about your job?

SquishyCinnamonSwirls · 26/07/2012 23:55

Good for you re the job, how marvellous!

But seriously, you've been together since you were 19, is it possible that you've just outgrown him? From what you've written he sounds dreadfully hard work, and do you really want to be looking back in another 5 years time when you might be married with children and regretting the decision to put up with this nonsense?

I'd be very breezy about it and go and have a super time on my own.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 27/07/2012 00:04

Twll Bach if you send a message to MN HQ e.g. report your own post they should be able to move the thread into relationships for you.

TwllBach · 27/07/2012 00:05

That's the one wellwisher! DB says the bar upstairs is nice too. My (newly divorced and rapidly slimming) mother is very excited about going Grin

He was/is very proud of me for getting the job. I worked really hard to get it and he knows that and we are where you technically have to be fluent in the native language to even be offered an interview (his native language, not mine) and I haven't even had proper formal lessons, just made my friends here talk to me in it and found lessons online etc.

I'm really hoping that we can work through it because as muh ad he can be a nob, he has also been very supportive and fought tooth and nail to stop my father being really awful over the last two years.

This is why I'm confused! On the one hand, I know that in a very basic way, he would do anything to stop someone hurting me. I also know that he has his own issues that, I think, make him actin ways that are upsetting to me and I cant always quite get my head round that.

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cocolepew · 27/07/2012 00:06

Has he been enthusiastic about your job? Happy for you?

cocolepew · 27/07/2012 00:08

Sorry xpost

Is he stressed at work but taking out on you/acting like a dick because he can't cope/speak out at work for some reason?

TwllBach · 27/07/2012 00:12

He is finding work very stressful at the moment - his bosses have just had a baby and he is on his own a lot in a business that is doing exceptionally well, givn the climate. He's very good at what he does and they appreciate him a lot, but that doesn't mean he doesn't get stressed about the sheer amount of work he has.

I'm feeling a bit like I was unfair now, taking Friday and Monday off probably has meant he has had to work twice as hard today and again on Tuesday. But then maybe he should have organised his time better. But then maybe he couldn't

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