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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - All Going On A Sober Holiday! <crosses fingers that it stays sunny>

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Mouseface · 25/07/2012 12:56

Hello, tis me, mouse Smile

Welcome to The Brave Babes Battle Bus, grab yourself a seat, they're really comfy and a Brew, oh and a home-made chocolate chip Biscuit before they all get eaten!

We're a Bus full of alcohol abusers/addicts, some of us say it out loud, some whisper it and some aren't ready to say it at all just yet.

That said, there are a few of us who just have the occasional drink and that's something that they can handle. There are a few of us who must NEVER have another drink because that first one will lead to many, many more which will only ever end badly.

We're open to all....there are no requirements to join us on our journey to sobriety, there's support, great laughs, tears and tantrums here and that's just me!!! Grin

If you'd like to see how we got here, follow THIS LINK

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NoNoNoMYDoIt · 19/08/2012 13:32

Should have said 'still can't ... take any consolation'.

guggenheim · 19/08/2012 14:10

nono I haven't read your thread about residency yet, mostly because I dislike the bashing/ flaming aspect of online forums, and you mention that some people were negative towards you It sounds like an incredibly difficult situation where you did the best you could, grace under pressure as the saying goes.

Keeping busy will help the days go by quickly. Can you make a coming home box for them and put something in everyday? Being away from home yourself will help.

As for the boring / exciting dynamic I think that I'm not boring sober, I'm just calm. I've had to get used to being just as big an eejit sober and deal with the crass remarks I make all by myself, stone cold.

Did anyone see the thread about being teetotal (bit ironic for me to read it Hmm ) one of the posters mentioned how horrible it is watching her friends get wasted and how their social life revolves around alcohol. I felt bad because in the past I've decided that non drinkers are being boring, odd because me staggering round insisting I 'luff' you and trying to remember a joke is not too interesting either.

saf Would you be offended if I used that idea of gratitude too? Thanks for sharing.

swallowedAfly · 19/08/2012 14:12

of course not gugg Smile

Mouseface · 19/08/2012 16:15

Afternoon, tis me, mouse

NoNo - I feel like a terrible mother for allowing my children to be separated from me

I can relate to that and your feelings just now. I can feel the pain in each and every word,I understand that you feel so guitly, almost like you're failing them each time they go to their father's home, domain.

I've not read your thread but I will. I expect it's full of shitty comments about you, and how the children have a right to their father and vice versa. The usual flaming/ignorant/eyes wide shut stuff on MN.

I used to vomit when DD went with her father. I was absolutely terrified he'd take her away or not look after her properly, I dreaded him knocking on the door to see her. We didn't go through the court process, I agreed to let him have open access when she was a baby, and onwards to a toddler etc...... I hated every single moment. I was the ONLY ONE who could protect her, and keep her safe

Nothing and no-one could stop me feeling like that. Nothing could switch my head off, stop my heart aching.

She's 13 now and hates him one moment but is happy to talk to him the next. We split up before I knew I was pregnant. He wasn't interested but changed his mind when she was born. I'd left the door open for him, even though he'd been shagging everything with a pulse and a vague resemblance to a female.

It wasn't her fault he behaved the way he did. He's told her plenty of lies about me along the way, and just recently there's been a bit of a rocky road for her to walk, but I have stood beside her, not holding her back..... I've just been around the corner, I've just let her know that I'm here.

It's so hard to watch them leave, to see them happy with him. I used to listen to how much of a great time she'd had, how she'd been here, there and everywhere. How he'd spent so much money on her......

I hated his new wife because DD liked her. His new life was oh so wonderful. Funny how he knocked on my door whist his new wife sat at home waiting for him...... not so perfect but I shut the door in his face and have never told DD about him trying it on with me, and nor would I. Ever.

It's an entangled ball of twisted, mixed, raw emotions that just grow and swell uncontrollably for a while, you can't pick at it, the ball, or try to make it smaller, it sits deep within you until it feels like making your life that little bit harder.

I could go on about it but won't because my post is about you NoNo. Massive hugs to you. I'm glad your BF has the decency to give you time and space. xx

Saf - I like that idea too..... Smile. I am very OCD when it comes to lists so that task is ideal for me. I sometimes forget just how much I do have to be grateful for. I think that sometimes I get stuck in a loop, or a rut, just worrying about the same shit, thinking the same thoughts, using the same excuses, day in, day out.

After reading your posts Saf, I've tidied the kitchen and lounge, done a load of washing, been and bought Nemo an occasional use pushchair for mu car, DD has arrived back home after her night out, DH is in the garden and I've just pottered but just looked at how much I've done instead of sitting here, on MN, or Facebook etc.......

I've got lists everywhere of things I want to do today. Tomorrow or this week. I want to complete them myself (within my pain limits) and your posts are really helping me. I'm getting a sense of achievement which is replacing the frustration of having to wait for someone to help me.

Thank you Saf xx

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Mouseface · 19/08/2012 16:21

JWN - how was the wedding? I want to hear all about your Jimmy Choo's and how long you could wear them before donning your flipflops..... no? Was that just me at my wedding then?!! Grin

Gugg - I love the 'coming home box' idea Smile I always made/bought something for DD for when she'd been at her father's house and she loved it. This last time, I have made her a box frame with her name in it, in shells that we collected from our break away.

Re the teetotal thread, they come and go on here...... but AFAIK, we're the only support thread to have run this long about the abuse of alcohol and I hope that reads right. I mean it in a 'we're always here for the support of everyone' kind of way, and have been for 2 years ish.

Anyone feel free to put it better than that for me please! Grin

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Mouseface · 19/08/2012 16:25

So, my new meds - Gabapentin - are now up to three a day. I can 'feel' when I've had them, they tend to kick in about 20-30 mins after taking them. I feel wobbly which is why I've taken them today whilst DH is here.

Seth (the thread's resident wolf Grin) has to go back to Liverpool for treatment again tomorrow.

I need to get school uniform and shoes for DD, plus a new bag for her. Her father used to get them for her. He's stopped the last few times....... maybe he thinks that in high school, she gets them for free? Hmm

Right, more list ticking to do.

I hope you're all okay out there Babes xx

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NoNoNoMYDoIt · 19/08/2012 17:20

Thank you mouseface. It is such a relief when someone just understands as I am sure you know. Your situation sounds to have been so difficult but you have maintained your dignity and given your DD the opportunity to build a relationship with her father which is so important.

dementedma · 19/08/2012 17:30

The shared residence thing is one of the reasons some people get pissed off when continually being told to "leave the bastard". As others have found, its just not that easy!

ruralreynard · 19/08/2012 17:35

ma spot on. Certainly true in my case.

dementedma · 19/08/2012 17:35

And mine.

Carrie370 · 19/08/2012 19:09

When I chucked my ExP out, it was one of the hardest things to do - even though 'his cock kept falling into other women' (great phrase, Mouse!), and I knew I could not stay with him, it broke my heart to know that I wouldn't be putting my children to bed every night, seeing them off to school every morning, and just being there for them 24/7.

After 3 years, it has become easier; I make sure I spend the time I'm not with them either for me (hopefully not at the bottom of a bottle!) or getting all the boring stuff done and dusted, so that I can really concentrate on them when they are home with me.

Their ct of a father is about to get married to the OW. I absolutely hate that they are going to be bridesmaids to the woman who screwed me over - but the most important thing is THEM, and their feelings - I could not deprive them of the opportunity to dress up and be centre of attention for the day, and nothing about their father's behaviour is their fault. I also have a thread on here, started when I was shell-shocked that the bridesmaids thing was being proposed, full of exactly what you describe, Mouse - do-gooders telling me to suck it up, be the bigger person, etc, etc. Arghh!

MysteryThing · 19/08/2012 19:37

Mouse that was a beautiful, heartfelt post to NoNo. Sending healing vibes to Seth. Has the infection not gone away?

I know it's a bit late, but huge congratulations to JWN. You are an inspiration!

aliasjoey · 19/08/2012 20:22

Hope you had a great day JWN

aliasjoey · 19/08/2012 20:40

Am in the sidecar (been there all weekend) Not feeling too great.

Lellipops · 19/08/2012 20:58

Sorry you're not feeling too great joey want to chat about it?

I've had a good w/e ...nice chilled night in on Friday with DD's ..seem to be finding it easier to avoid the Friday night booze treat punishment. Great bike ride with b/f on Sat. Had a few planned drinks last night interspersed with soft drinks and back to AF today with few problems. Did glance at the wine in the supermarket this pm but bought myself some flowers instead Smile

dementedma · 19/08/2012 21:04

So its you alias who's been taking up all the space in here.
Day 1 again tomorrow

aliasjoey · 19/08/2012 21:05

I'm just terrified of going into work tomorrow and am drinking to try and quell the anxiety.

ruralreynard · 19/08/2012 21:06

nono I am useless with words but would just like to say I feel your pain and am totally against shared residency for DC's so young.

aliasjoey · 19/08/2012 21:10

yeah, squeeze up ma, room for everyone in the sidecar of shame...

ruralreynard · 19/08/2012 21:21

joey ma make room for me in the sidecar tonight.

Lellipops · 19/08/2012 21:36

joey ma rural hugs for you all. Hope you can get some good sleep.

Night all x

ruralreynard · 19/08/2012 21:36

joey really understand the anxiety thing its one of my biggest triggers.

ruralreynard · 19/08/2012 21:38

Lelli Thank you,
Goodnight, sleep well.xx

aliasjoey · 19/08/2012 21:44

rural we're going to need our own bus soon Sad

Mouseface · 19/08/2012 21:55

Evenin, tis me Mouse

Mystery - thank you, Seth is okay, home tonight and back in Liverpool hospital tomorrow Sad but he is sooooooooooooooooo much better than he was, they just need to treat the last bit of infection.

Ma - The shared residence thing is one of the reasons some people get pissed off when continually being told to "leave the bastard". As others have found, its just not that easy!

No, it's not. Ever. I know that I've told you in the past to just leave the bastard, but................ I'd rather you didn't now that I know more. I'd rather you wait and prepare. Take your time. You have no need for a rapid escape. AFAIK, there's no violence.

I know that life can be utterly shite for you and I for one am always glad to see a post from you. I like to know that you are here, with us, safe on the Bus.

You'll find your day. You'll find your time to go, to take the life you so deserve and make it yours. Big hugs to you Ma xx

We're watching Lee Evans and I'm eating Maltersers and nearly choking on them! Grin

I just wanted to say that it's okay to post about the shit in your life as well as the booze.... after all, the shit in your life is the reason most of us are here.

Night Brave Babes xxxx

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